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haresfur

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Posted: Jun 22, 2026 - 2:29pm

 black321 wrote:


$2T+ valuation on a company that generates $19B in revenue and a $9B loss, burning ~$20B in cash flow...should be on that mtv show ridiculousness. 
Bankruptcy within 5 years isnt out of the question. 


So like those corporate raiders that buy a company to raid its assets and make millions driving it into bankruptcy? Only he starts the company and does it himself? Much more efficient.

But what do I know? I'm a risk adverse financial idiot.
islander

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Posted: Jun 22, 2026 - 9:44am

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Yeah, it's tanking right now.  I suppose it is because of the bonds that they just put up for sale.  I'm even.

I'm in it for S & G's and maybe a long thing.  One thing I've learned watching Musk over the years is to expect high volatility.  

From Reuters this morning :
 
Moody's issued ‌a "Baa1" and Fitch a "BBB+" rating, indicating that SpaceX's debt is considered investment-grade ⁠and carries moderate credit risk, with sufficient capacity to meet its financial commitments.




This could be shits and giggles or spacex and grok, and it really doesn't make any difference.  Any other company with these financials and this governance structure wouldn't even bother with a rating.   This is pure cult of personality.

Yes, musk has volatility at the base of all his companies. They lose a lot of money, they don't do things the 'right' way. And they are propped up by people believing "he's a genius, so it must be good". He buys the dips and sells on his tweets. He's making money playing the spread, the company is just the tool. 

kurtster

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Posted: Jun 22, 2026 - 8:05am

 black321 wrote:


$2T+ valuation on a company that generates $19B in revenue and a $9B loss, burning ~$20B in cash flow...should be on that mtv show ridiculousness. 
Bankruptcy within 5 years isnt out of the question. 


Yeah, it's tanking right now.  I suppose it is because of the bonds that they just put up for sale.  I'm even.

I'm in it for S & G's and maybe a long thing.  One thing I've learned watching Musk over the years is to expect high volatility.  

From Reuters this morning :
 
Moody's issued ‌a "Baa1" and Fitch a "BBB+" rating, indicating that SpaceX's debt is considered investment-grade ⁠and carries moderate credit risk, with sufficient capacity to meet its financial commitments.


black321

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Posted: Jun 22, 2026 - 7:06am

 kurtster wrote:

FYT

I did.  9 shares.  Dumped a flatliner and put it into SPCX and I'm up 12%.

Yeah, I know that IPO's traditionally tank shortly after issuance.  So go ahead and laugh at me for being stupid.

Worth the risk to me is all I can say.

So am I now a war criminal for buying in ?



Oh, and my R 2000 index is up 17%


$2T+ valuation on a company that generates $19B in revenue and a $9B loss, burning ~$20B in cash flow...should be on that mtv show ridiculousness. 
Bankruptcy within 5 years isnt out of the question. 
R_P

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Posted: Jun 21, 2026 - 11:26am

teat.gov

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Posted: Jun 20, 2026 - 12:45pm



Humans Will Never Colonize Mars — And Musk Knows It
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 19, 2026 - 8:51am

Elon Musk and the Politics of Trillionaire Fascism
islander

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Posted: Jun 15, 2026 - 4:29pm

 kurtster wrote:

FYT

I did.  9 shares.  Dumped a flatliner and put it into SPCX and I'm up 12%.

Yeah, I know that IPO's traditionally tank shortly after issuance.  So go ahead and laugh at me for being stupid.

Worth the risk to me is all I can say.

So am I now a war criminal for buying in ?



Oh, and my R 2000 index is up 17%


this you?
https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/post/3905473; How's the rest of your speculation portfolio doing?


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Posted: Jun 15, 2026 - 12:40pm


mannixj

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Posted: Jun 15, 2026 - 12:23pm

 kurtster wrote:

FYT

I did.  9 shares.  Dumped a flatliner and put it into SPCX and I'm up 12%.

Yeah, I know that IPO's traditionally tank shortly after issuance.  So go ahead and laugh at me for being stupid.

Worth the risk to me is all I can say.

So am I now a war criminal for buying in ?



Oh, and my R 2000 index is up 17%


Yer simply taking advantage, like most of us do. With sometimes potentially vast consequences for the have-not majority on the planet. This you can only work out with your own conscience, I'd say.
Where the greater your awareness of systemic happenstance, the more you might feel responsible if you choose not to look away.


kurtster

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Posted: Jun 15, 2026 - 12:01pm

 black321 wrote:

so… who bought shares and helped musky become a billionaire trillionaire?🤣


FYT

I did.  9 shares.  Dumped a flatliner and put it into SPCX and I'm up 12%.

Yeah, I know that IPO's traditionally tank shortly after issuance.  So go ahead and laugh at me for being stupid.

Worth the risk to me is all I can say.

So am I now a war criminal for buying in ?



Oh, and my R 2000 index is up 17%
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 14, 2026 - 9:54am

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Posted: Jun 14, 2026 - 8:17am


islander

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Posted: Jun 13, 2026 - 4:23pm

 black321 wrote:

so… who bought shares and helped musky become a billionaire?🤣



I looked to see if I needed to avoid, but most of my stuff has governance rules that would prevent it. There are a few moves I need to make anyway, getting awful frothy around the market. 



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Posted: Jun 13, 2026 - 3:30pm

"Soon" for gullible gophers.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 12, 2026 - 2:59pm

 black321 wrote:

so… who bought shares and helped musky become a billionaire?🤣



I have no idea. I have a guy who takes care of all that.
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Posted: Jun 12, 2026 - 2:50pm

‘Anti-Black’: Elon Musk Pushes Stats to Justify a Racist Narrative, But the Math Is All Wrong No Matter How Much He Wants It to be Right
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Posted: Jun 12, 2026 - 2:49pm

The SpaceX IPO just created one of the biggest wealth events in Silicon Valley history. Here are the winners.
The SpaceX IPO made Musk a trillionaire. The old rules of capitalism no longer apply - Robert Reich
black321

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Posted: Jun 12, 2026 - 2:02pm

so… who bought shares and helped musky become a billionaire?🤣
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Posted: Jun 12, 2026 - 12:41pm


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