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Posted: Sep 9, 2017 - 7:02am

After his insane, idiotic tirade about the weather being "fake news" I think Rush Fucking Limpdick should be required to remain at his mcmansion in south Florida, stand on the roof and shake his fist at Irma.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2017 - 7:28am

In February 1976, that attorney general, Bill Baxley, received a threatening letter. It was from Edward R. Fields, a grand dragon in the Ku Klux Klan, who was furious that the state had reopened an investigation into the Birmingham church bombing that killed four young girls in 1963.

He demanded a response, and Mr. Baxley obliged.

“Dear ‘Dr.’ Fields,” he wrote. “My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is — kiss my ass.”

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Posted: Jul 14, 2017 - 2:56pm

 islander wrote:

Probably saved $15 over my avocado toast. (and I had to google heterodox)

 
Bacon costs extra. And don't even think of trying to afford Vegemite.
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Posted: Jul 14, 2017 - 9:33am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 islander wrote:
Were you in the movie "A Few Good Men"? 

No, but I once had bacon for breakfast.

On a bagel, with cream cheese. I like to keep things heterodox.

 
Probably saved $15 over my avocado toast. (and I had to google heterodox)
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 1:32pm

 islander wrote:
Were you in the movie "A Few Good Men"? 

No, but I once had bacon for breakfast.

On a bagel, with cream cheese. I like to keep things heterodox.
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 1:03pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
R_P wrote:
Right. Will there be a test, teach?
 
Sure. Accuse me of being funded by the Koch brothers.

Six degrees or fewer or it doesn't count.

 
Were you in the movie "A Few Good Men"? 
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 12:59pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
R_P wrote:
Right. Will there be a test, teach?
 
Sure. Accuse me of being funded by the Koch brothers.

Six degrees or fewer or it doesn't count.
 
I suspect they'd still want to see some return on their investment. Then again, they do provide charity (the activity, not the mentioned principle)...
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 12:13pm

R_P wrote:
Right. Will there be a test, teach?
 
Sure. Accuse me of being funded by the Koch brothers.

Six degrees or fewer or it doesn't count.
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 11:27am

 Lazy8 wrote:
R_P wrote:
That's pretty presumptuous and arrogant.
 
 So you went and read it, right?

Right? 
 
Right. Will there be a test, teach?

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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 10:46am

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Or:

....
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 10:24am

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Kinda your wheelhouse innit?
 


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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 9:10am

R_P wrote:
That's pretty presumptuous and arrogant.
 
 So you went and read it, right?

Right?



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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 6:17am

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Misinforming the Majority: A Deliberate Strategy of Right-Wing Libertarians
(...) The modern extreme right wing I'm talking about, just to be clear, is the libertarian movement that now sails under the Republican flag, particularly but not only the Freedom Caucus, yet goes back to the 1950s in both parties. President Eisenhower called them "stupid" and fashioned his approach — calling it modern Republicanism — as an antidote to them. Goldwater was their first presidential candidate. He bombed. Reagan, they believed, was going to enact their agenda. He didn't. But beginning in the early 2000s, they became a force to be reckoned with. What had changed? The discovery by their chief funder, Charles Koch, of the approach developed by James McGill Buchanan for how to take apart the liberal state. (...)

There are a few reasons Buchanan has been overlooked. One is that the Koch cause does not advertise his work, preferring to tout the sunnier primers of Hayek, Friedman and even Ayn Rand when recruiting. Buchanan is the advanced course, as it were, for the already committed. Another is that Buchanan did not seek the limelight like Friedman, so few on the left have even heard of him. I myself learned of him only by serendipity, in a footnote about the Virginia schools fight.

His importance to the right wing could only be identified by working through the archival sources that provide context for his published work. That's what I did after discovering that Buchanan had urged the full privatization of Virginia's public schooling in 1959, and then learning that he later advised the Pinochet regime on a capital-protecting constitution that could withstand the end of the dictatorship. Even with both of those data points, I don't think I could have gleaned the full import of his project had I not moved to North Carolina in 2010, where a strategy informed by his thought has been applied with a vengeance by the veto-proof Republican legislative majority that came to power in the midterms that fall. After Buchanan died in 2013, I was able to get access to his private papers at George Mason University, where the documentation is incontrovertible. (...)
James M. Buchanan: The Architect of the Radical Right

 
i've been very busy lately however i glean bhl when possible

that said i haven't read her book but i have looked at the critique of those who did 

folks can scroll around and see

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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 4:22am

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That's pretty presumptuous and arrogant.


 




Kinda your wheelhouse innit?
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Posted: Jul 12, 2017 - 1:25am

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(...) I'd also bet nobody here has even a passing understanding of Buchanan's life's work, public choice theory. If you want to gain some understanding of it I recommend reading Munger's article all the way thru.

You won't, but you should. 
 
That's pretty presumptuous and arrogant.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2017 - 9:19pm

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Misinforming the Majority: A Deliberate Strategy of Right-Wing Libertarians
(...) The modern extreme right wing I'm talking about, just to be clear, is the libertarian movement that now sails under the Republican flag, particularly but not only the Freedom Caucus, yet goes back to the 1950s in both parties. President Eisenhower called them "stupid" and fashioned his approach — calling it modern Republicanism — as an antidote to them. Goldwater was their first presidential candidate. He bombed. Reagan, they believed, was going to enact their agenda. He didn't. But beginning in the early 2000s, they became a force to be reckoned with. What had changed? The discovery by their chief funder, Charles Koch, of the approach developed by James McGill Buchanan for how to take apart the liberal state. (...)

There are a few reasons Buchanan has been overlooked. One is that the Koch cause does not advertise his work, preferring to tout the sunnier primers of Hayek, Friedman and even Ayn Rand when recruiting. Buchanan is the advanced course, as it were, for the already committed. Another is that Buchanan did not seek the limelight like Friedman, so few on the left have even heard of him. I myself learned of him only by serendipity, in a footnote about the Virginia schools fight.

His importance to the right wing could only be identified by working through the archival sources that provide context for his published work. That's what I did after discovering that Buchanan had urged the full privatization of Virginia's public schooling in 1959, and then learning that he later advised the Pinochet regime on a capital-protecting constitution that could withstand the end of the dictatorship. Even with both of those data points, I don't think I could have gleaned the full import of his project had I not moved to North Carolina in 2010, where a strategy informed by his thought has been applied with a vengeance by the veto-proof Republican legislative majority that came to power in the midterms that fall. After Buchanan died in 2013, I was able to get access to his private papers at George Mason University, where the documentation is incontrovertible. (...)
James M. Buchanan: The Architect of the Radical Right

It was only a matter of time before this showed up here. I mean, it conflates libertarians with right wingers and posits a vast cabal funded by the Koch brothers—this is sure to be a summer blockbuster. There is no better way to sell a conspiracy theory than to blame it all on your favorite boogeyman.

But a conspiracy theory it is. And a very shoddy and dishonest work of scholarship.

If you bring up the name James Buchanan among libertarians most would say "Who?" You might get a few who'd say "Um, the public choice guy? Oh, him." To call him the architect of the modern libertarian movement is plain silly—you could list a dozen more-influential intellectuals. And to claim that his work is in any way derivative of John Calhoun (and thus somehow tainted by Calhoun's pro-slavery views) is beyond silly, it's dishonest. As Michael Munger points out Calhoun appears nowhere in the 19 volumes of Buchanan's collected works.

You'd expect the kind of breathless conspiracy mongering from Truthout, but not from a respected historian like MacLean. Well, formerly respected. She's blown that with this screed.

She misquotes, she quotes out of context, and she plain makes shit up—all to prove (to anyone who already believes that the Koch Brothers are the source of all that is evil in America, anyway) that anyone with the label libertarian is in it only to suppress the righteous will of the proletariat. Oh yeah, and racist. Because Calhoun. Or something.

This list of the book's fabrications (it would be beyond charity to call them errors) is growing daily as people still living who appear in the book discover how badly they've been misrepresented. Here's a pretty good compendium. There are bound to be a lot more.

To clarify: no, I haven't read the book. Neither has anybody reading this, I reckon. I'd also bet nobody here has even a passing understanding of Buchanan's life's work, public choice theory. If you want to gain some understanding of it I recommend reading Munger's article all the way thru.

You won't, but you should.


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Posted: Jul 11, 2017 - 12:27pm

Misinforming the Majority: A Deliberate Strategy of Right-Wing Libertarians
(...) The modern extreme right wing I'm talking about, just to be clear, is the libertarian movement that now sails under the Republican flag, particularly but not only the Freedom Caucus, yet goes back to the 1950s in both parties. President Eisenhower called them "stupid" and fashioned his approach — calling it modern Republicanism — as an antidote to them. Goldwater was their first presidential candidate. He bombed. Reagan, they believed, was going to enact their agenda. He didn't. But beginning in the early 2000s, they became a force to be reckoned with. What had changed? The discovery by their chief funder, Charles Koch, of the approach developed by James McGill Buchanan for how to take apart the liberal state. (...)

There are a few reasons Buchanan has been overlooked. One is that the Koch cause does not advertise his work, preferring to tout the sunnier primers of Hayek, Friedman and even Ayn Rand when recruiting. Buchanan is the advanced course, as it were, for the already committed. Another is that Buchanan did not seek the limelight like Friedman, so few on the left have even heard of him. I myself learned of him only by serendipity, in a footnote about the Virginia schools fight.

His importance to the right wing could only be identified by working through the archival sources that provide context for his published work. That's what I did after discovering that Buchanan had urged the full privatization of Virginia's public schooling in 1959, and then learning that he later advised the Pinochet regime on a capital-protecting constitution that could withstand the end of the dictatorship. Even with both of those data points, I don't think I could have gleaned the full import of his project had I not moved to North Carolina in 2010, where a strategy informed by his thought has been applied with a vengeance by the veto-proof Republican legislative majority that came to power in the midterms that fall. After Buchanan died in 2013, I was able to get access to his private papers at George Mason University, where the documentation is incontrovertible. (...)
James M. Buchanan: The Architect of the Radical Right
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Posted: May 26, 2017 - 11:33am

Wayne Allyn Root: Conservatives Must Hire Special Forces Operatives Who ‘Have Killed People’ To Destroy The Left

Right-wing commentator, conspiracy theorist and Donald Trumpobsessed sycophant Wayne Allyn Root spent a good portion of his radio broadcast yesterday ranting about the need for conservatives to hire special forces operatives who “have killed people” to destroy liberal groups before “our lives are erased.”

Outraged that WorldNetDaily had its Twitter account temporarily suspended for its incessant promotion of the debunked Seth Rich conspiracy theory, Root fumed that conservatives “are all wussies and they don’t understand that we have to fight back so viciously and we have to boycott every liberal company in this country.”

Any company that advertises on MSNBC or CNN or in the New York Times, Washington Post or on any liberal website must be universally boycotted by every Trump voter in America, Root said, “before we are taken off the airwaves and our lives are erased.”

Reading from a letter he received from a friend, Root claimed that progressive organizations like Right Wing Watch, Media Matters, and the Center for American Progress have massive offices all over the country filled with staff who do nothing but send emails, letters and make phone calls “to sponsors and newspapers and cable and TV networks all over this country and all over this world to try to destroy the right.” Conservatives don’t have a similar operation, Root fumed, because they are “lazy, cheap, wussy, country-club RINO a-holes.”

“We need to hire an attack dog,” Root declared. “We need to hire former CIA or NSA or FBI or Navy Seals that have been involved in counter-insurgency operations all over the world, that have killed people, that understand how to fight; that don’t bring a knife to a gunfight, that bring a gun to a gunfight, preferably a shoulder-fired missile to a gunfight, preferably a nuclear weapon to a gunfight!”

“It is time to go after the left as viciously as they go after us,” Root proclaimed. “These people are mentally insane … and I will tell you right now, they would burn books if they could.”

“They would love to burn the Bible, because we all know they hate God,” he added. “And you know they hate the country.”


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Posted: Apr 21, 2017 - 1:14am

Hey kurtster, 
 Just noticed that I was responding to a post of yours from last June. Didn't mean to dredge up old news/posts. But I thought I'd respond to your post of yesterday anyhow. Enjoy your weekend!



kurtster wrote:

"We already knew about how the Clinton campaign screwed Sanders though.  The wiki stuff was just the proof of what we already knew by
then."
Like this kind of thing never happened in American politics before HRC. I'm pretty sure Bernie would have done the same to Hillary if the roles had been swapped. The Republican party leadership in Congress and elsewhere was actively and openly involved in attempts to block Trump's path to the nomination, even considering tactics contrary to party rules. 
"And the CIA station nearby to the consulate ?  Remember they were two separate facilities a mile or two apart, not one and the same."
Point taken about the two separate facilities. However, as this NYT piece from 9/23/12 notes, the CIA presence in Benghazi was a sensitive matter that the Obama administration was trying to conceal, before and after that attack. That would help to explain the lack of information at the beginning of the incident. HRC claims that she was relaying in an email to Chelsea that one terrorist group had claimed responsibility; that group disavowed responsibility 18 hours later. 

From Deadly Attack in Libya Was Major Blow to C.I.A. Efforts


....

"Among the more than two dozen American personnel evacuated from the city after the assault on the American mission and a nearby annex were about a dozen C.I.A. operatives and contractors, who played a crucial role in conducting surveillance and collecting information on an array of armed militant groups in and around the city.

“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.”
The C.I.A.’s surveillance targets in Benghazi and eastern Libya include Ansar al-Sharia, a militia that some have blamed for the attack, as well as suspected members of Al Qaeda’s affiliate in North Africa, known as Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

...

The attack has raised questions about the adequacy of security preparations at the two American compounds in Benghazi: the American mission, the main diplomatic facility where Mr. Stevens and another American diplomat died of smoke inhalation after an initial attack, and an annex a half-mile away that encompassed four buildings inside a low-walled compound.

From among these buildings, the C.I.A. personnel carried out their secret missions. The New York Times agreed to withhold locations and details of these operations at the request of Obama administration officials, who said that disclosing such information could jeopardize future sensitive government activities and put at risk American personnel working in dangerous settings.

In Benghazi, both compounds were temporary homes in a volatile city teeming with militants, and they were never intended to become permanent diplomatic missions with appropriate security features built into them.

Neither was heavily guarded, and the annex was never intended to be a “safe house,” as initial accounts suggested. Two of the mission’s guards — Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, former members of the Navy SEALs — were killed just outside the villa’s front gate. A mortar round struck the roof of the building where the Americans had scrambled for cover."



...

Foreign diplomats say that under security circumstances like those now in Libya, it is generally standard procedure to have a “safe house” in the vicinity of a main diplomatic facility that can be easily defended and evacuated.

“Normally, you try to keep the location of such a safe house secret, but in Benghazi right now, I think this was next to impossible,” Col. Wolfgang Pusztai, who until early August was Austria’s defense attaché to Libya and visited the country every month, wrote in an e-mail. “There are not too many foreigners hanging around, and it is quite easy to track them.”


Enjoy the comedy routine of Congressmen Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and Darrell Issa (R-CA) as they inadvertently reveal the CIA's presence in Benghazi during their hearings into the attacks: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_print.html
You also wrote

"Very early on I learned about the possibility of Obama and Clinton gun running to Al Qaeda out of Benghazi via Turkey to Syria and then into Al Qaeda's paws... Turns out the story about the gun running was pretty much right now that we know a whole lot more."

Are you referring to Al-Nusra front? A lot of rebel groups fighting against Assad got radicalized and taken over by Islamic extremist groups such as Al-Nusra. This Wikipedia article has this quote: 

"In November 2012, The Washington Post described al-Nusra as the most successful arm of the rebel forces."


Choose your poison, kurtster. There are no white hats in Syria. 

 
Yes, I was referring the the server.

A foolish thing ?  How about just a plain wrong thing, beyond foolish ?  So I repeat my statement ... "Its a shame only republicans (and a handful of libertarians) care about any of this or even think its a problem to begin with."  The difference being that there is a difference in most some minds between foolish and wrong.

But it doesn't matter anymore does it ?  The side that votes wrong won.  
 


Kurtster, if as you note the private email server issue doesn't matter anymore merely because Clinton lost, how wrong was it? Why have Republicans in Congress dropped the matter entirely? Do you actually want investigations into possible criminal behavior, or are you just happy with a political win? Seems to me it's the latter case, and that's disappointing. 

Personally, I don't give a f*kk about Clinton's server. I do care to know whether Trump and his campaign staff actively colluded with the Russian intelligence services and Putin to interfere in our elections. I'm not the only one who's reminded of Watergate. Maybe you're OK with that. 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/04/17/echoes-watergate-russia-attack-democracy/TAEVaMJZ755QY62QKVsGJI/story.html

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article136102213.html


Final thought: yes, many people who felt ignored by mainstream politics voted Trump into office. Has Trump paid them anything but lip service since he took office? Why yes, he's actually promoted policies and budget plans that would screw them over. So while you can say that Trump won, it looks like many of his supporters are going to lose as a result. 



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