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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 9:22pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

No, really. How long has that option been there? I rarely look at the volume slider in the menu bar, so it could have been there for years, but I really don't think so. 
 
I don't care about all the hi-fi stuff, sometimes I just want to have my laptop iTunes play to the stereo.

 
I think it came with Mavericks. Maybe El Cap but I think Mavericks. So years. 
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 9:19pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

No, really. How long has that option been there? I rarely look at the volume slider in the menu bar, so it could have been there for years, but I really don't think so. 
 
I don't care about all the hi-fi stuff, sometimes I just want to have my laptop iTunes play to the stereo.

 
Several years.  I remember a couple summers ago I bought a package to stream Motogp races from Europe and then would redirect them to my TV from the MAC browser.  Can't remember the Mac OS version release that first had the capability.


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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:51pm

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Baahhhaha {#Cheers}.  That is why older gen 2 AppleTv devices are attractive buy on Craigslist for like $30.  They have optical out so your going digital all the way even though you got a FLAC-.ALAC conversion in there it's still lossless.

 
No, really. How long has that option been there? I rarely look at the volume slider in the menu bar, so it could have been there for years, but I really don't think so. 
 
I don't care about all the hi-fi stuff, sometimes I just want to have my laptop iTunes play to the stereo.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:44pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Um, holy shit. How long has that been there? I can see our Airport Express that's plugged into our stereo now.

 
Baahhhaha {#Cheers}.  That is why older gen 2 AppleTv devices are attractive buy on Craigslist for like $30.  They have optical out so your going digital all the way even though you got a FLAC-.ALAC conversion in there it's still lossless.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:31pm

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Yeah I am running the Mac RP desktop app and redirecting it to AppleTV device then into an external DAC.  Pretty sure that is Airplay technology.

 
Um, holy shit. How long has that been there? I can see our Airport Express that's plugged into our stereo now.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:23pm

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I assume he's talking about the desktop Mac player (MacOS vs iOS) and I asked a few years ago and the answer was no. Would be nice tho.

 
Yeah I am running the Mac RP desktop app and redirecting it to AppleTV device then into an external DAC.  Pretty sure that is Airplay technology.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:16pm

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I am redirecting the RP app output to AppleTV divice.  That not Airplay?

 
I assume he's talking about the desktop Mac player (MacOS vs iOS) and I asked a few years ago and the answer was no. Would be nice tho.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:13pm

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Any chance of Airplay support for the MacOS app? 

 
I am redirecting the RP app output to AppleTV divice.  That not Airplay?
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 8:09pm

Any chance of Airplay support for the MacOS app? 
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 3:45pm

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What type/format of source file does RP use?

 
Best available. When you get into the song submission process a bit, you'll see this:
 

FLAC file available: check if you can provide a FLAC or Apple Lossless file

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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 12:18pm

What type/format of source file does RP use?
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 - 11:23am

I'm home sick this morning, so have some time to write about my impressions.  I just had the chance to install and test the FLAC pluggin for Squeeze last night.  I run a Transporter down in the cave, where the audiophool rig resides.  In the past, I'd run RP's 192kbps OGG stream off the Transporter, feeling it gave me the best sound on that particular source.  Comparing the OGG stream to the FLAC one, I initially couldn't tell much if any difference.  Then a Paul Simon tune came on, with lots of ambient sound and deep bass.  OMG - what a difference!  The same tune on the OGG stream sounded so... thin in comparison.  Comes to show (as it has been again and again) that it all starts in the studio.  If a piece of music comes out of the studio poorly engineered and dynamically compressed, ripping to a lossy format might not be all that impactful.  However, if you have something that's been engineered pretty well in the studio, then there's more to lose to lossy compression.  This is my belief anyway, after many years of digital audio nerdistry.

One of the things we all love about RP is the massive range of music Bill and Rebecca play.  With that comes a range of recording quality.  I think with FLAC on a revealing system, our mileage will vary significantly.  I'm not sure I can be bothered to experiment to this degree - but I might wager the listener's experience would be more consistent on a revealing audio rig using a lower bitrate stream.  Why?  Lossy compression may level the playing field somewhat, harming good recordings more than bad ones.  Maybe.  Given the potential for really fat full sound from RP in the cave, I doubt I'll be going back though.  If only a quarter of the songs RP plays audibly benefit from lossless compression vs lossy, I'm in.  No way am I giving that up in exchange for what **might** be a more consistently thin listening experience.

Or not.  Listening on my phone here, I just compared the 320kbps stream to flac, listening to The Rest, by Webb Wilder, and I was surprised I could hear a difference (flac, then 320, clear cache (ensuring I'm not getting the cached flac stream), then flac, clear cache, then 320, clear cache).  I do run about as close to an audiophile phone setup as one might easily get (LG V20 with its "Hi-Fi Quad DAC" into Sennheiser HD595s (very good but not truly great cans - with the benefit of being easy to drive, so great for phones and portables)).  I was a little surprised this set up was revealing enough to show a difference between 320 and flac - but I'll take it!

Flac for the win!
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Posted: Jan 10, 2018 - 4:27pm

I'll put in a plug here for FLAC on the Roku app.  Love the Roku app, but it could sound much better.
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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 - 7:44pm

 jbuhl wrote:

Looks like my Wadia upsamples everything coming in on S/PDIF to 32/196 via a Cirrus Logic CMOS.  So all my A/B efforts are useless anyway.  Just have to settle for realizing the chip is doing less work :) 

 
On the Mac app (& on our mobile apps), changing the bitrate does not necessarily immediately take effect. If you want to do a comparison, you can follow the bitrate change with 'sync to web stream'.  Otherwise, the change will take effect 1-3 songs in the future. 

Also, what you're hearing on the apps will not always match what's displayed on the website. If you've paused the audio for ny length of time, or skipped a song, it will *definitely* not match. You need to look at the app's now playing display. If for some reason having that match is important, use 'sync to web stream'.


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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 - 6:41pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

Even with the Wadia upsampling it should be possible to hear a difference, especially between the most compressed stream and the flac stream. I'm still baffled as to why I can't hear a difference. 



 


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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 - 4:48pm

 jbuhl wrote:

Looks like my Wadia upsamples everything coming in on S/PDIF to 32/196 via a Cirrus Logic CMOS.  So all my A/B efforts are useless anyway.  Just have to settle for realizing the chip is doing less work :) 

 

Even with the Wadia upsampling it should be possible to hear a difference, especially between the most compressed stream and the flac stream. I'm still baffled as to why I can't hear a difference. 


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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 - 11:35am

 swell_sailor wrote:

I have a Nova in my office and it upsamples, but I'm not sure about the Wadia. 

 
Looks like my Wadia upsamples everything coming in on S/PDIF to 32/196 via a Cirrus Logic CMOS.  So all my A/B efforts are useless anyway.  Just have to settle for realizing the chip is doing less work :) 
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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 - 7:55am

ahhh, first day my desktop app has been in sync with the webpage playlist.  {#Cheers}
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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 - 5:00pm

 BillG wrote:
 william.f.morris9914 wrote:
I see a previous question re ability to stream FLAC through SONOS, but no response.  Is this possible?

 
Not currently. We're working on that.



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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 - 1:09pm

 william.f.morris9914 wrote:
I see a previous question re ability to stream FLAC through SONOS, but no response.  Is this possible?

 
Not currently. We're working on that.

At this point, FLAC only works on our iOS, Android, AppleTV, Fire tv, and Mac OS apps. It will also be included in our new web player,  due in Feb.



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