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Posted: Feb 23, 2018 - 12:40pm

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In continuing to misunderstand or mis-frame the problem, this article has little useful to offer. But it does capture one truth: "one of two things has to be true: either Democratic “political operatives” are incredibly bad at what they do, or else they are feigning amazement in order to get themselves off the hook for the lousy job they did in 2016. "

It was never about the actual ads the Russians ran. It was absolutely about how they crawled the internet, sowing rancor and discord, making any discussion/exchange of information unpleasant. We had them before the election, right here. We have them now. :shrug:
 
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Posted: Feb 23, 2018 - 12:24pm

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The hysteria over Russian bots has reached new levels
Pundits and Democrats ascribe to a handful of bargain-basement Russian trolls all manner of ability – including orchestrating a coup d’etat
 
 
In continuing to misunderstand or mis-frame the problem, this article has little useful to offer. But it does capture one truth: "one of two things has to be true: either Democratic “political operatives” are incredibly bad at what they do, or else they are feigning amazement in order to get themselves off the hook for the lousy job they did in 2016. "

 
It was never about the actual ads the Russians ran. It was absolutely about how they crawled the internet, sowing rancor and discord, making any discussion/exchange of information unpleasant. We had them before the election, right here. We have them now. :shrug: 

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Posted: Feb 23, 2018 - 12:11pm

The hysteria over Russian bots has reached new levels
Pundits and Democrats ascribe to a handful of bargain-basement Russian trolls all manner of ability – including orchestrating a coup d’etat
he grand total for all political ad spending in the 2016 election cycle, according to Advertising Age, was $9.8bn. The ads allegedly produced by inmates of a Russian troll farm, which have made up this week’s ration of horror and panic in the halls of the American punditburo, cost about $100,000 to place on Facebook.

A few months ago, when I first described those Russian ads in this space, I invited readers to laugh at them. They were “low-budget stuff, ugly, loud and stupid”, I wrote. They interested me because they cast the paranoid right, instead of the left, as dupes of a foreign power. And yet, I wrote, the American commentariat had largely overlooked them.

Now that Robert Mueller’s office has indicted the Russian actors who are allegedly behind the ads, however, all that has changed. American pundits have gone from zero to 60 on this matter in no time at all – from ignoring the Facebook posts to outright hysteria over them.

What the Russian trolls allegedly did was “an act of war ... a sneak attack using 21st-century methods”, wrote the columnist Karen Tumulty. “Our democracy is in serious danger,” declared America’s star thought-leader Thomas Friedman on Sunday, raging against the weakling Trump for not getting tough with these trolls and their sponsors. “Protecting our democracy obviously concerns Trump not at all,” agreed columnist Eugene Robinson on Tuesday.

The ads themselves are now thought to have been the product of highly advanced political intelligence. So effective were the troll-works, wrote Robert Kuttner on Monday, that we can say Trump “literally became president in a Russia-sponsored coup d’etat”.

For thoughts on the finely tuned calculations behind this propaganda campaign, the Washington Post on Saturday turned to Brian Fallon, a former Hillary Clinton press secretary, who referred to the alleged Russian effort as follows: “It seems like the creative instincts and the sophistication exceeds a lot of the US political operatives who do this for a living.”

Of what, specifically, did this sophistication consist? In what startling insights was this creativity made manifest? “Fallon said it was stunning to realize that the Russians understood how Trump was trying to woo disaffected (Bernie) Sanders supporters ...”

The Post added a few suspicious examples of its own. The Russian trolls figured out that battleground states were important. And: they tried to enlist disgruntled blue-collar voters in what the paper called the “rust belt”.

Okay, stop here. Since when is it a marker of political sophistication to know that some states are more persuadable than others? Or to understand that blue-collar voters are an important demographic these days? (...)

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Posted: Feb 23, 2018 - 11:05am

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i had this spinning in my periphery yesterday
for the most part it was a good conversation
and something you would never see in/on the mainstream agitprop
enjoy this stuff while you can
 
Unexpected Friday scooby snack, thank you (and b4 I forget, for the steak grilling instructions as well... my WA visitors praise you2). Sadly most H8Rs have made up their minds in advance of convincing evidence, so they won't spend the 50+ minutes to hear any of it out here (as in MORE THAN ONE perspective on this mess).... correctness no longer a virtue in our country, plain and simple.  I paused the great RP tunes and went about my work and listened and learned...  Still no break in the storm… journalistic autonomy mentions and the UT professor were brill, and far more consciencious of conduct and casual observers – dangerous standard for folks to think they can redefine the written law in their homeland purely out of spite/hate.  If majority wants these laws stricken with a fresh rewrite right now under this current administration, let them organize (yet again) and take the streets as Eric Holder advocates… anyone who actually read(s) the constitution may get it… but that would take only half the time of watching this video and who has time for that nonsense which is the foundation of our formation?  But it’s still too long for the short sighted… so continue to bring on the headlines so they don’t have to read the deets in the articles… actual tangible evidence matters not in this brave new world… duh… the failure as a communicator part and tendencies of schmear… (did I spell that wright D?) most intriguing + the comedy section about the media being too ethical… gotta laugh, LOVE 2 laff as much as heart2swim!!!  We all need more laughter, believe it or notBest medicine is not fake newsFireEye and CrowdStrike news to me and welcome researchable 4-1-1… big hole in the whole story.  But people should grasp at any straw… or opt to cover their bases at minimum, jussayin.  And in the end “ “We”/they may never get there… interesting tell about the “aim” of the game.  So many open questions, oh what to believe?  And who cares what MSNBC wants to talk about anywayz?  They can’t even get the freaking Olympics correct, sad but true, sorry Lester, North Korea is not the happiest place on earth as you reported...  And the proper role of a journalist part...  or even a neighbor crying wolf… cuz right now it’s important (even crucial) for many to keep flailing to discredit the facts.  Luvin' the Bill Maher commentary near the end.  Have been super offended by him way before Trump was his fresh target… he’s just a bloodthirsty Dbag.  Hang on for dear life!  “The rhetoric is getting dangerous” and the “potential gravity of it” has gravitas.  
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Posted: Feb 23, 2018 - 9:37am

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i had this spinning in my periphery yesterday

for the most part it was a good conversation

and something you would never see in/on the mainstream agitprop

enjoy this stuff while you can 
 
I wouldn't know.

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Posted: Feb 23, 2018 - 4:15am

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i had this spinning in my periphery yesterday

for the most part it was a good conversation

and something you would never see in/on the mainstream agitprop

enjoy this stuff while you can


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Posted: Feb 22, 2018 - 8:01am

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fox analyst = oxymoron

 
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Posted: Feb 22, 2018 - 12:33am

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fox analyst = oxymoron
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Posted: Feb 20, 2018 - 8:36am

Listen to what this analyst has to say:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/20/trump-turns-obama-quote-on-election-rigging-against-him-in-russia-debate.html


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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 11:09am

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it ain't furreal until I see it in the National Enquirer ...  {#Snooty}

 
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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 10:26am

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i've posted some stuff about levin's work before too

it's sad and mind-blowing at the same time

and what is stunning is that people can look at this, look at the level of our govt's participation, the actual "russian" info put out there and still hold the beliefs that they do

and almost all news, esp cable news has little or no credibility
 
Hey! It's hard work to "maintain the system".
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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 10:15am

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What is most remarkable is that this could even be considered news to anyone. 

That there are so many that this would be breaking news to is scary.  

Its proof enough to me that sheeple are real and they are now the majority.

:sigh:

 
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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 10:10am

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What is most remarkable is that this could even be considered news to anyone. 

That there are so many that this would be breaking news to is scary.  

Its proof enough to me that sheeple are real and they are now the majority.

:sigh:

 
Perhaps the "sheeple" - by definition, have always been the majority, or at least tend to be for long periods of time.


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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 10:04am

 R_P wrote: 
What is most remarkable is that this could even be considered news to anyone. 

That there are so many that this would be breaking news to is scary.  

Its proof enough to me that sheeple are real and they are now the majority.

:sigh:
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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 5:17am

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and almost all news, esp cable news has little or no credibility

 
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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 4:49am

 R_P wrote: 
i've posted some stuff about levin's work before too

it's sad and mind-blowing at the same time

and what is stunning is that people can look at this, look at the level of our govt's participation, the actual "russian" info put out there and still hold the beliefs that they do

and almost all news, esp cable news has little or no credibility
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Posted: Feb 19, 2018 - 2:14am


Mwuhahahaha...
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Posted: Feb 18, 2018 - 3:29pm

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