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oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 9:31am
 GeneP59 wrote:

I have no idea where my rudderless vessel is heading.


circling the strain
steeler

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Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 9:24am
 GeneP59 wrote:

I have no idea where my rudderless vessel is heading.


As long as we don’t run aground!
SeriousLee

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Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 7:37am
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GeneP59

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Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 7:36am
I have no idea where my rudderless vessel is heading.
Dejaveux

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Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 6:24am
 Isabeau wrote:

I just realized my FB thread has become a negative space for me. Between cute animal videos, critical Trump posts were increasing ... and it was like heroin. Ate it up.
Also had a sucky attitude. 

Imma go one full month. I can't believe I'm that into it. Like a gottam mental casino, hoping to get 'likes.' 


I think this is great.  We are all starting to get it.  Don Draper is behind the curtain.
oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 21, 2026 - 9:08pm
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Isabeau

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 5:01pm
I just realized my FB thread has become a negative space for me. Between cute animal videos, critical Trump posts were increasing ... and it was like heroin. Ate it up.
Also had a sucky attitude. 

Imma go one full month. I can't believe I'm that into it. Like a gottam mental casino, hoping to get 'likes.' 
Isabeau

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 4:54pm
 Red_Dragon wrote:

fuck cancer


 
miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 4:02pm
 Red_Dragon wrote:

fuck cancer
haresfur

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 3:09pm
 Steely_D wrote:


I replaced the outdoor 3’ pole for mounting with a piece of metal pipe from Ace that’s maybe 10’ tall, as well as being mounted on my roof. And mounting on that, as well as pointing based on AntennaWeb’s recs, gets me a lot more reception. Also, some folks buy powered preamps. Never tried.




My old house had a powered preamp that I think was needed for the weak analog signal. Not sure if it made any difference when we went digital. Not sure what there is at my new place, but it annoyingly picks up a usually broken signal from a city a couple of hours away. Then the tv randomly adds all those channels back in and I have to figure out which to delete.

Most people here have gone to streaming. We only sign up when there is show we particularly want to watch (As an aside, fuck you BBC for moving Dr. Who to netflix or amazon or whoever). Most of the streaming I do is from the local stations free on demand streaming.

But my internet is fixed wireless now since I live too far from town. It's slower than the fibre to the home I just got before my move, but I'm not a big gamer so it's fine. Well, it was fine until we lost our wireless tower and all the radio transmitters in a bushfire. 
Steely_D

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:38am
 Proclivities wrote:

I have a digital antenna - I think it cost about $20.00 - it gets most local channels in addition to the horrible shopping networks, but I don't get CBS or Comet - even though they are listed it tries but does not connect.  I guess if I bought a more expensive one or lived in a different location I would get more channels.  It has come in handy when the cable or internet is down though.


I replaced the outdoor 3’ pole for mounting with a piece of metal pipe from Ace that’s maybe 10’ tall, as well as being mounted on my roof. And mounting on that, as well as pointing based on AntennaWeb’s recs, gets me a lot more reception. Also, some folks buy powered preamps. Never tried.
Proclivities

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:28am
 Steely_D wrote:

An OTA antenna, depending on where you live, can be extremely cheap. I have one that I stuck on my window in Pittsburgh and, when the internet goes down during a storm, I just hook the TV to my little battery backup and get the latest news/weather as needed. Can’t do that with cable. 

Folks use AntennaWeb to see what works for them. It tells me “Up to 143 channels from 23 over-the-air stations may be received at this location.”

There are, in some areas, hundreds of stations available - although most of them are foreign language (“Stupid white people pay for cable!”) or just noise (“All Cops all the time!”). So it would require one or two big players to make any cultural shift.



I have a digital antenna - I think it cost about $20.00 - it gets most local channels in addition to the horrible shopping networks, but I don't get CBS or Comet - even though they are listed it tries but does not connect.  I guess if I bought a more expensive one or lived in a different location I would get more channels.  It has come in handy when the cable or internet is down though.
rgio

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:19am
 Steely_D wrote:

An OTA antenna, depending on where you live, can be extremely cheap. I have one that I stuck on my window in Pittsburgh and, when the internet goes down during a storm, I just hook the TV to my little battery backup and get the latest news/weather as needed. Can’t do that with cable. 


receiving only works if someone is broadcasting.
Steely_D

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:17am
 rgio wrote:

You mean like Amazon, Netflix, and all of the other "with ad" services?

Exactly. The theory behind cable at the beginning was that these were prepaid, so no ads. That lasted about 1/10 of a second. Now even NPR is “this program sponsored by…” So ads in OTA shows aren’t a big step.
The issue is that 90% of US households are now set up to stream via cable.  OTA requires additional broadcasting and receiver hardware that isn't necessary if you're "piggy-backing" your entertainment off of your internet.

My daughters live in Philly, and both use digital antennae to OTA local news, sports, and PBS.  It works really well, but I can't see it ever being mainstream.

To your point though....what if everything was wifi?  What if all of your streaming was wifi without cable? 
I mean OTA from a giant antenna like it used to be, not just wireless. Cable comes to the home, goes to a box, and then there’s optional eventual translation to a WiFi signal to your phone or TV, but that’s still cable or internet broadcasting. You gotta pay Verizon or someone to make it come to your home and then there’s the cable box, etc. OTA just needs an adequate antenna.

An OTA antenna, depending on where you live, can be extremely cheap. I have one that I stuck on my window in Pittsburgh and, when the internet goes down during a storm, I just hook the TV to my little battery backup and get the latest news/weather as needed. Can’t do that with cable. 

Folks use AntennaWeb to see what works for them. It tells me “Up to 143 channels from 23 over-the-air stations may be received at this location.”

There are, in some areas, hundreds of stations available - although most of them are foreign language (“Stupid white people pay for cable!”) or just noise (“All Cops all the time!”). So it would require one or two big players to make any cultural shift - which is the point of my original post. Right now, OTA is trash, but I predict that things will shift. </Karnak>
rgio

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:11am
 Steely_D wrote:

(Imagine if Apple or a YouTube spinoff created a real TV station with ads.)


You mean like Amazon, Netflix, and all of the other "with ad" services?

The issue is that 90% of US households are now set up to stream via cable.  OTA requires additional broadcasting and receiver hardware that isn't necessary if you're "piggy-backing" your entertainment off of your internet.

My daughters live in Philly, and both use digital antennae to OTA local news, sports, and PBS.  It works really well, but I can't see it ever being mainstream.

To your point though....what if everything was wifi?  What if all of your streaming was wifi without cable? 
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:08am
 Steely_D wrote:

Prediction:

In the near future, there will be a shift from cable/internet broadcasting back to OTA broadcasting like it used to be. OTA broadcasting isn’t compressed like cable feeds are, and limiting to internet broadcasting means you miss out on people who can’t afford it. 

(Current OTA is a horrible annoying culture-free wasteland. Imagine if Apple or a YouTube spinoff created a real TV station with ads.)



"Local" stations here are required by law to have an OTA system available; our county still funds the translator towers but they talk about doing away with it. Some people would definitely howl but our house has never gotten a good signal. But yeah if ESPN or someone like that was on there, I'd look into getting a decent antenna again.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:06am
 Steely_D wrote:

Prediction:

In the near future, there will be a shift from cable/internet broadcasting back to OTA broadcasting like it used to be. OTA broadcasting isn’t compressed like cable feeds are, and limiting to internet broadcasting means you miss out on people who can’t afford it. 

(Current OTA is a horrible annoying culture-free wasteland. Imagine if Apple or a YouTube spinoff created a real TV station with ads.)



We don't have cable TV; just cable interwebs. We use an antenna for local news stations - and occasional baseball games.
Steely_D

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 11:03am
Prediction:

In the near future, there will be a shift from cable/internet broadcasting back to OTA broadcasting like it used to be. OTA broadcasting isn’t compressed like cable feeds are, and limiting to internet broadcasting means you miss out on people who can’t afford it. 

(Current OTA is a horrible annoying culture-free wasteland. Imagine if Apple or a YouTube spinoff created a real TV station with ads.)
GeneP59

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 9:30am
 Red_Dragon wrote:

fuck cancer



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NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Aug 19, 2026 - 1:06am
 Red_Dragon wrote:

fuck cancer



oh shit. 
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