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Posted: Sep 24, 2021 - 8:13am

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"Police do not have a name or photo of the suspect or security footage of the incident, Carrier said. They do however have a description of the man and are hoping with the public's help, they'll be able to identify him and charge him with assault."

Can anyone just walk in and anonymously get vaccinated in Canada?  If not.. maybe look for the spouses of recently vaccinated married women who were jabbed at that pharmacy by that nurse?

Investigators are checking the pharmacy's vaccination records from the previous few days in an effort to identify a potential suspect.

The pharmacy's owner declined an interview request, but told Radio-Canada that an average of about 15 people get vaccinated there every day.
However, the colossal dumb ass might just have picked the wrong pharmacy too...
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Posted: Sep 24, 2021 - 3:33am

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"Police do not have a name or photo of the suspect or security footage of the incident, Carrier said. They do however have a description of the man and are hoping with the public's help, they'll be able to identify him and charge him with assault."

Can anyone just walk in and anonymously get vaccinated in Canada?  If not.. maybe look for the spouses of recently vaccinated married women who were jabbed at that pharmacy by that nurse?
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Posted: Sep 23, 2021 - 6:11pm

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sounds like he needs to be vaxxed with thorazine
this is why every ER needs a tranq gun...



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Posted: Sep 23, 2021 - 5:04pm

Man punches nurse in the face multiple times after his wife is vaccinated for Covid
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Posted: Sep 23, 2021 - 8:24am

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The Israelis started giving booster shots of the Pfizer vaccine after five months. My interpretation of that fact is, it's not so hot.
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The Israelis possess much bio-tech and pharma-tech expertise.  Worthwhile paying attention but not at the expense of ignoring what is going on elsewhere.  Recall all these companies are privately owned.

Did you see the Johnson news release about the benefits of a booster shot?   Was that release done for the benefit of scientists and medical researchers or was the release done for the benefit of shareholders and regulators who are vulnerable to political pressure?  

Booster shots may be easily justified for those who are particularly vulnerable but let's not lose sight of the priorities:   Once again, 9% of American adults do NOT have health insurance.  Roughly 30% have yet to be vaccinated at all.  

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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 4:54pm

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Sspeaking of nasals....llamas to the rescue
https://www.bbc.com/news/scien...
 
What a flirt.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 4:12pm

Moderna vs. Pfizer: Both Knockouts, but One Seems to Have the Edge
A series of studies found that the Moderna vaccine seemed to be more protective as the months passed than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Here’s why.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 3:53pm

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Sspeaking of nasals....llamas to the rescue
https://www.bbc.com/news/scien...


well that's interesting

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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 3:44pm

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Sspeaking of nasals....llamas to the rescue
https://www.bbc.com/news/scien...
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 2:08pm

Germany is ending salary subsidies for unvaccinated workers who are quarantined.
In a move that may help boost the country’s flagging vaccination campaign, German health authorities announced on Wednesday that the country’s state governments will no longer pay for unvaccinated people to quarantine, ending subsidies that employers can draw on to cover salaries when workers have to stay home.

The policy is directed at people who are forced to quarantine after having contact with an infected person or after returning to Germany from a designated high-risk country. People in those situations who are not vaccinated will no longer be eligible for the subsidies.

Jens Spahn, the country’s health minister, noted that vaccination remains entirely voluntary in Germany, but “with this decision also comes the responsibility to bear financial consequences.”

The announcement that the subsidies would be cut off by Nov. 1 follows news that a widely publicized national vaccine drive had failed to yield a significant increase in vaccinations.

Currently, 67 percent of Germany’s population has received at least one dose of coronavirus vaccine. The most recent surge in virus cases in the country peaked earlier this month, but appeared to be on the decline in recent weeks.

The new policy is not the first action taken by the German government to discourage people from remaining unvaccinated. Officials announced last month that Germany would end a program that allows any German resident to get a free antigen test. Unvaccinated people are required to show a recent negative test result to enter businesses like indoor restaurants, gyms and hair salons; starting Oct. 12, they will have to pay for the tests themselves.

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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 2:02pm

zeynep tufekci@zeynep·18h OK this might be too inside baseball, but... It’s the kinetics! Delta’s issue is the kinetics! Anyway.

halvorz ¯_(ツ)_/¯@halvorz
Replying to @autodidacticdan and @zeynep Delta's biggest advantage vs other variants/OG SARS2 is not that antibodies don't stick to it as well (immune escape) but that it grows inside you way faster (kinetics), outrunning our immune response   by the time our body ramps up antibody production it's a full blown infection

halvorz ¯_(ツ)_/¯@halvorz·18h this is probably why breakthroughs are more common with Delta, but it doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't work at all; the immune system *does* respond, just too slow to reliably prevent infection; once it does respond it will clear the virus p quickly, preventing severe disease

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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 12:25pm

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 rhahl wrote:
1) Non-sterilzing vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the disease or new variants from developing. 2) Our current vaccines wear off in six months so we will need to vaccinate the whole country twice a year.  Not likely.

The shots available for seasonal flu do not necessarily prevent one from getting that season’s variant of the flu, but they do tend to offer a good degree of protection against impact of the flu. As has been pointed out, if Americans got those shots and took other safeguard steps, such as washing hands more regularly, staying home when sick, being mindful of social distance, and maybe even wearing masks, the seasonal flu could be better contained. But Americans have not chosen to do so. I think it is less likely that Americans will begin regularly wearing masks and otherwise altering their usual practices than they are to get COVID shots twice a year. So where does that leave us? Seems to me the shots are our best hope, which is not to say that we should reject other safeguard practices. 
 
Given the political realities our best hope is a nasal vaccine that should actually stop the virus from infecting people. This kind might only last six months also (we are talking about a coronavirus after all), but it would be a lot easier to distribute and prevent spreading and mutations. Here by the end of 2022 if we are lucky.
 
Even with vaccines, seasonal flu kills about 50,000 people per year. If Covid-19 is five times worse than flu, we can expect 250,000 deaths per year forever unless a better vaccine comes along.
 
If you were King, I would advise you to institute a no-BS lockdown for eight weeks with generous income support for non-essential workers, followed by aggressive test-and-trace systems with two-week quarantines (again with income support), and very restricted international air travel for years. Of course, how much longer you could remain King would be an open question. We really don't give ordinary people free money. That is only for bankers and big industries.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 12:16pm

Non-Covid Patients Despair Over Delayed Care
In areas inundated with coronavirus patients, hospitals have postponed treatments and surgeries for people with other serious conditions.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 11:40am

 steeler wrote:

The shots available for seasonal flu do not necessarily prevent one from getting that season’s variant of the flu, but they do tend to offer a good degree of protection against impact of the flu. As has been pointed out, if Americans got those shots and took other safeguard steps, such as washing hands more regularly, staying home when sick, being mindful of social distance, and maybe even wearing masks, the seasonal flu could be better contained. But Americans have not chosen to do so.

I think it is less likely that Americans will begin regularly wearing masks and otherwise altering their usual practices than they are to get COVID shots twice a year.

So where does that leave us? Seems to me the shots are our best hope, which is not to say that we should reject other safeguard practices. 




Seems simple enough, right?
I assume big pharma, labs, and clinicians are also working on possible pharma remedies, but I doubt that will result in anything near term?
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 11:15am

 rhahl wrote:
 
1) Non-sterilzing vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the disease or new variants from developing. 2) Our current vaccines wear off in six months so we will need to vaccinate the whole country twice a year.  Not likely.

The shots available for seasonal flu do not necessarily prevent one from getting that season’s variant of the flu, but they do tend to offer a good degree of protection against impact of the flu. As has been pointed out, if Americans got those shots and took other safeguard steps, such as washing hands more regularly, staying home when sick, being mindful of social distance, and maybe even wearing masks, the seasonal flu could be better contained. But Americans have not chosen to do so.

I think it is less likely that Americans will begin regularly wearing masks and otherwise altering their usual practices than they are to get COVID shots twice a year.

So where does that leave us? Seems to me the shots are our best hope, which is not to say that we should reject other safeguard practices. 


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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 10:18am

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 rhahl wrote:
 
1) Non-sterilzing vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the disease or new variants from developing. 2) Our current vaccines wear off in six months so we will need to vaccinate the whole country twice a year.  Not likely.

2)  Your information contradicts what I am hearing on elite media such as NPR.   The vaccines are much more effective than your post suggests.  
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The Israelis started giving booster shots of the Pfizer vaccine after five months. My interpretation of that fact is, it's not so hot.
 
p.s. Pfizer is the one I got, but I waited twelve weeks between shots instead of three, in order to increase its effectiveness. I am in a low-risk environment: retired, perfect health, and living in a detached house with one vaccinated old lady who doesn't get out much, so I felt I could afford to wait.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 9:59am

 rhahl wrote:
 
1) Non-sterilzing vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the disease or new variants from developing. 2) Our current vaccines wear off in six months so we will need to vaccinate the whole country twice a year.  Not likely.

1)  Sterlizing vaccines do not always prevent infection or transmission either.

2)  Your information contradicts what I am hearing on elite media such as NPR.   The vaccines are much more effective than your post suggests.  

3)  But you make a good point.  To the extent that booster shots will increase immunity, that would be a good thing and certainly doable in a rich country like the USA.  The trouble is not with booster shots but getting 30% of the adult population to get an initial shot.   If you are implying that Americans have trouble playing with each other and that social cooperation will become increasingly difficult going forward, you might be right.  

4)  What you fail to mention are the horrifically bad US health outcomes and the fact that nobody is discussing the public health crisis.  Obesity, diabetes, COPD, dementia.  9% of Americans are still without health insurance?    Is it really that good to be so bloody exceptional
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 9:56am

 rhahl wrote:
If you meant to include all those folks who refuse to take any other precautions than a non-sterilizing vaccine, okay. But since the article doesn't mention them, I doubt it. 
 
Sorry to be a bore about this, but our vaccine-only plan must fail and was obviously going to fail all along, because we did not follow the protocol for non-sterilzing vaccines. The inevitable result followed. And it will continue to fail for at least five more years if we don't alter the plan, probably at the level of 5,000 deaths per week on average. Get used to it and be careful.


Who I meant were all the people who refuse the vaccine based on fear and nonsense, who refuse to mask up and practice distancing. Those who adamantly continue to act as if nothing is wrong because they can't be inconvenienced.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 9:39am

 westslope wrote:
 rhahl wrote:
If you meant to include all those folks who refuse to take any other precautions than a non-sterilizing vaccine, okay. But since the article doesn't mention them, I doubt it. 
 
Sorry to be a bore about this, but our vaccine-only plan must fail and was obviously going to fail all along, because we did not follow the protocol for non-sterilzing vaccines. The inevitable result followed. And it will continue to fail for at least five more years if we don't alter the plan, probably at the level of 5,000 deaths per week on average. Get used to it and be careful.

Does not make any sense to me whatsoever.  
 
 
1) Non-sterilzing vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the disease or new variants from developing. 2) Our current vaccines wear off in six months so we will need to vaccinate the whole country twice a year.  Not likely.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2021 - 8:15am

 rhahl wrote:
If you meant to include all those folks who refuse to take any other precautions than a non-sterilizing vaccine, okay. But since the article doesn't mention them, I doubt it. 
 
Sorry to be a bore about this, but our vaccine-only plan must fail and was obviously going to fail all along, because we did not follow the protocol for non-sterilzing vaccines. The inevitable result followed. And it will continue to fail for at least five more years if we don't alter the plan, probably at the level of 5,000 deaths per week on average. Get used to it and be careful.

Does not make any sense to me whatsoever.  



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