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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:30pm

 romeotuma wrote:

great picture...


Obama's Original Sin

by Frank Rich
New York Magazine
July 3, 2011

The president's failure to demand a reckoning from the moneyed interests who brought the economy down has cursed his first term, and could prevent a second.

 

Matt Taibbi is more than one of the best journalists in our solar system— he is practically a prophet...  I gotta feeling this will come to a head when Elizabeth Warren gets on the pulpit come July 14...


Frank Rich Blasts Obama For Letting Wall Street Off the Hook
by Matt Taibbi
Rolling Stone


A lot of people are talking about Frank Rich's explosive new article in New York magazine. I think it is a remarkable thing, the latest and maybe the most comprehensive in an increasingly lengthy series of articles and investigations into the Obama administration's failure to properly investigate the causes of the financial crisis.

By now this is not quite a mainstream media drumbeat, but it's coming close: between the reporting of Louise Story and Gretchen Morgenson at the New York Times to the recent not-terribly-laudatory piece on New York Southern District U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara by the New Yorker's George Packer, to Eliot Spitzer's bitter commentary on the subject on CNN, to my own bleatings, and now this Rich broadside, it seems quite clear that the Obama administration's failure to clean up Wall Street is becoming a matter of some fascination with the few investigative journalists who are not covering the Casey Anthony case.



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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 8:05pm

 Rod wrote:


Only if they're the slow, clumsy zombies. The fast zombies kick major ass.
 
Go away you noisy speed demon.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:59pm

 Umberdog wrote:
I vote for social collapse. We could all partake in a moment of human history!

Old guy talking to young guys:
Yeah, I was around during the social collapse of 2011... we figured the Mayans had it square in their calender and it would all be over by 2012. Aw well, those was good times!

Get off my lawn !

 
FYT

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:57pm

I vote for social collapse. We could all partake in a moment of human history!

Old guy talking to young guys:
Yeah, I was around during the social collapse of 2011... we figured the Mayans had it square in their calender and it would all be over by 2012. Aw well, those was good times!
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:53pm

 kurtster wrote:


I'm not getting ready for a societal collapse, I'm just cheap.
 
that's your story and you're stickin' to it!
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:52pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

I gave up on the whole survive after the collapse of society thing when I realized that in a world of seven billion people unless you can make your home in one of the very few remaining truly remote areas of the planet, you're screwed.
 

I'm not getting ready for a societal collapse, I'm just cheap.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:51pm

 kurtster wrote:

In Ohio, the voter does have the right to switch parties before voting at sign in.  But the right to challenge their switching parties exists as well.  If the vote is challenged, it then becomes a provisional vote subject to consideration usually only if a vote is close enough for a recount.  Independents will get issue only ballots during primaries.  They can vote on levies and laws, but not candidates. 

I've got no problem with photo ID, but then again, I keep that stuff in order.  I am required to show proof of residence at the address I am claiming.  A bank statement or utility bill is sufficient.  My DL does have a different address, but that is for reasons of having a CDL and a state medical license.

 
I hadn't realized it (or forgot...)  Apparently 19 states have closed primaries where only declared party members can vote.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:50pm

 kurtster wrote:

Our President, a typical democrat, gave Brazil the dough.  I guess that you didn't hear about that deal ?

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration card, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

But here we are.

Condoms break, get a vasectomy.

 
I'm a registered independent. I don't get to vote in the primaries. I don't particularly care who each of the two big political clubs decide to support. I don't even care how they choose who to support - they could meet in a smoke-filled room and pick names from a hat or sell the nomination to the highest bidder. It makes no difference to me.

There's no law that says you have to vote D or R. You don't even have to vote for the candidates on the ballot. If there's someone you like better, vote for them. 
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:43pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Really?

NH is something like 1/3 "Undeclared".  When you go to the Primary, you have to choose a side, and you are given that ticket.  Then, on your way out, you just go up to the desk and make yourself "undeclared" again.  It's a great system.

Our current absolutely loony state congress is doing everything possible to limit access to voting... not allowing students to vote, requiring picture ID... maybe they'll try to switch to the Ohio Primary system next...
 
In Ohio, the voter does have the right to switch parties before voting at sign in.  But the right to challenge their switching parties exists as well.  If the vote is challenged, it then becomes a provisional vote subject to consideration usually only if a vote is close enough for a recount.  Independents will get issue only ballots during primaries.  They can vote on levies and laws, but not candidates. 

I've got no problem with photo ID, but then again, I keep that stuff in order.  I am required to show proof of residence at the address I am claiming.  A bank statement or utility bill is sufficient.  My DL does have a different address, but that is for reasons of having a CDL and a state medical license.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:34pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Really?

NH is something like 1/3 "Undeclared".  When you go to the Primary, you have to choose a side, and you are given that ticket.  Then, on your way out, you just go up to the desk and make yourself "undeclared" again.  It's a great system.

Our current absolutely loony state congress is doing everything possible to limit access to voting... not allowing students to vote, requiring picture ID... maybe they'll try to switch to the Ohio Primary system next...
 
Oklahoma is like Ohio. They do their level best to ensure a two party ONLY system.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:33pm

 kurtster wrote:

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration card, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

 
Really?

NH is something like 1/3 "Undeclared".  When you go to the Primary, you have to choose a side, and you are given that ticket.  Then, on your way out, you just go up to the desk and make yourself "undeclared" again.  It's a great system.

Our current absolutely loony state congress is doing everything possible to limit access to voting... not allowing students to vote, requiring picture ID... maybe they'll try to switch to the Ohio Primary system next...

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:11pm

 kurtster wrote:

Our President, a typical democrat, gave Brazil the dough.  I guess that you didn't hear about that deal ?

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration cardm, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

But here we are.

Condoms break, get a vasectomy.
 
You're right... I can't vote in the primaries... which is really pretty stupid.

I would like to see a weighted ballot, where you can vote for more than one candidate, assigning first and second choice. But seeing as they can barely count the votes as it is, that would probably end up a nightmare. We would need less "Partying" and more parties for it to work. I think Australia does something like this, but they have lots of parties, not just two.

Parties were supposed to supply a degree of "checks and balances" to the erection process, but it's just turned into a boxing match of us against them.

I'm okay with vasectomies if you are.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:58pm

 Umberdog wrote:

You had $12 billion!!! O.O?

I must not be a typical Democrat.
*checks voter registration*
Ah, that's right, I'm an independent. One of those "swing-voters" that are supposed to change the political tide at erection time.

I'm against coal and nuclear power too.

Time to turn out some lights and put on some condoms.
 
Our President, a typical democrat, gave Brazil the dough.  I guess that you didn't hear about that deal ?

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration card, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

But here we are.

Condoms break, get a vasectomy.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:30pm

 kurtster wrote:
And a typical Democrat says go ahead and drill for oil in the deep ocean off your shores (Brazil), and here is $12 Billion of our taxpayer's my money to help and we will be your biggest customer and pay full retail.
 
You had $12 billion!!! O.O?

I must not be a typical Democrat.
*checks voter registration*
Ah, that's right, I'm an independent. One of those "swing-voters" that are supposed to change the political tide at erection time.

I'm against coal and nuclear power too.

Time to turn out some lights and put on some condoms.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:21pm

 Umberdog wrote:
Why don't greedy ingrates care about anything beyond themselves? It's like all of creation has been set aside for them and no one or nothing else. They have even warped their religion to this end. All they want is more, more, MORE!

Typical Republican:
Who cares about the health of the Earth... let our kids worry about that... I want another oil rig and I want it NOW! I don't care if there is a place RESERVED for wildlife... change the fu..ing law so I can have my OIL RIG! NOW!!! Thank you Jeez-US!



 
And a typical Democrat says go ahead and drill for oil in the deep ocean off your shores (Brazil), and here is $12 Billion of our taxpayer's my money to help and we will be your biggest customer and pay full retail.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:06pm

Why don't greedy ingrates care about anything beyond themselves? It's like all of creation has been set aside for them and no one or nothing else. They have even warped their religion to this end. All they want is more, more, MORE!

Typical Republican:
Who cares about the health of the Earth... let our kids worry about that... I want another oil rig and I want it NOW! I don't care if there is a place RESERVED for wildlife... change the fu..ing law so I can have my OIL RIG! NOW!!! Thank you Jeez-US!


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 4:52pm

 Beaker wrote:

The view changes once one is sitting behind that big ol desk in the Oval office.  

So the choices are either Obama is a big fat liar who told y'all what you wanted to hear, or George Dubya wasn't such a terrible guy after all.  Or both!

Tough one.   

 

Its like Senator Obama was against raising the debt ceiling and now President Obama is for raising it.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 11:28am

 Rod wrote:


Only if they're the slow, clumsy zombies. The fast zombies kick major ass.

 

Agreed.  Given the current obese state of most of the population of this continent I'm thinking slow and stupid clumsy is what we're in for.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 11:23am

 JrzyTmata wrote:

I'd rather face a zombie apocalypse
 

Only if they're the slow, clumsy zombies. The fast zombies kick major ass.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 11:18am

 oldslabsides wrote:
I gave up on the whole survive after the collapse of society thing when I realized that in a world of seven billion people unless you can make your home in one of the very few remaining truly remote areas of the planet, you're screwed.
 
True. Just the sheer numbers. You can't possibly kill 'em all. Having a private island would help, but still, look at the masses of people who come here on boats.

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