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NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Dec 20, 2022 - 11:55am

thanks for the links! 
rgio

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Posted: Dec 20, 2022 - 11:48am

 westslope wrote:

Ian Bogost is the director of the film- and media-studies program at Washington University in St. Louis, where he is also a computer-science and engineering professor.  He has some interesting things to say about social media.  He distinguishes between social networking and social media.  He provides an interesting historical overview of failed and successful social media websites.

Here:  The Age of Social Media Is Ending 
It never should have begun.


And this NPR podcast:  Could now be the time to consider a post-social media future? 


I read that when it came out, and couldn't agree more.

I'd forgotten about some of those platforms.  The "how the hell does that work" moment for me was RSS.  I just couldn't wrap my head around stuff arriving, based on my interests, without having to do anything.

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Posted: Dec 20, 2022 - 11:02am

Ian Bogost is the director of the film- and media-studies program at Washington University in St. Louis, where he is also a computer-science and engineering professor.  He has some interesting things to say about social media.  He distinguishes between social networking and social media.  He provides an interesting historical overview of failed and successful social media websites.

Here:  The Age of Social Media Is Ending 
It never should have begun.


And this NPR podcast:  Could now be the time to consider a post-social media future?  <24 minutes>




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Posted: Dec 20, 2022 - 9:39am

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Man, I really wanted credit for the Hamlet quote. 

....

That is because you are an unapologetic elitist.    You are a "bad person".    QED.  

If seeking to restore your tattered reputation, please use memes or quote Star Wars, Avatar, etc.  
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Posted: Dec 20, 2022 - 9:07am

 miamizsun wrote:


i agree
humans are going to slip, and let us down
i ask myself "what does the path to forgiveness look like?"
some thrive on conflict, some on legit engagement
i still make the effort to engage, understand and then be understood
probably sounds silly, but i've noticed i have better outcomes when i have conversations
some may take longer than others
my hope is that this sounds like something HITLER wouldn't say



Not that vegetarians seem to be hyped here, at all... (Hitler was one). The soft part of your message keeps ringing in.. so there may be a shed of hope for mankind, I guess.

There's people taking responsibility of and for themselves, and then there are (strictly) blamers:  Ever complaining about others, seeking fault with none other than themselves, most often willfully ignorant of their own, repetetive wrong-doings...

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Posted: Dec 20, 2022 - 5:04am

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I did both. Joined CounterSocial and Mastodon and Gab (really) and a few others just to stake out my four-letter name, and temporarily deactivated (now reactivated so no one could mess with my brand) my Twitter account.

But it all seems so weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable. The same people say the same things, have the same viewpoint. And the counter views are fueled by misinformation and irrational hatred. Sometimes RP gets that way, too, which is something HITLER would say. And then it feels sad: I've been here, like some of you, for a couple of decades. It's no fun to see everyone (including me) start bickering and name calling over something as ephemeral and temporary as elections. Those, too, shall pass.





i agree
humans are going to slip, and let us down
i ask myself "what does the path to forgiveness look like?"
some thrive on conflict, some on legit engagement
i still make the effort to engage, understand and then be understood
probably sounds silly, but i've noticed i have better outcomes when i have conversations
some may take longer than others
my hope is that this sounds like something HITLER wouldn't say

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Posted: Dec 19, 2022 - 5:00pm

 westslope wrote:


Steely_D:  You managed to include a reference to Hitler!  And it was kinda original and actually funny.  Well done!  

Curious:  Are not the chat fora on RP technically speaking 'social media'?

Facebook.  Not particularly fond of it but find it useful when something is happening locally, like a murder, wildfire, flooding of Biblical proportions.

Twitter.  I have actually learned a few things on Twitter.   But I can see it turning rather quickly into the 'same old, same old'.   As you point out, there are lots of people whistling past each other.  Useful back and forth is the exception.

I am happy to see this proliferation of substitutes for Twitter.    Think I will wait for a few glowing reviews of the new sites.


Man, I really wanted credit for the Hamlet quote. 

I think of RP as social, surely, but not as widespread as the usual things like FB. I was also very active with some (still) friends on Last.fm but that’s in the past, and it was also a niche location on the net.

I still have my FB account, since there are people there (from Last.fm) and relatives that I otherwise would hear from a lot less frequently. But it doesn’t get my personal life as posts.
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Posted: Dec 19, 2022 - 3:34pm

 Steely_D wrote:

I did both. Joined CounterSocial and Mastodon and Gab (really) and a few others just to stake out my four-letter name, and temporarily deactivated (now reactivated so no one could mess with my brand) my Twitter account.

But it all seems so weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable. The same people say the same things, have the same viewpoint. And the counter views are fueled by misinformation and irrational hatred. Sometimes RP gets that way, too, which is something HITLER would say. And then it feels sad: I've been here, like some of you, for a couple of decades. It's no fun to see everyone (including me) start bickering and name calling over something as ephemeral and temporary as elections. Those, too, shall pass.





Steely_D:  You managed to include a reference to Hitler!  And it was kinda original and actually funny.  Well done!  

Curious:  Are not the chat fora on RP technically speaking 'social media'?

Facebook.  Not particularly fond of it but find it useful when something is happening locally, like a murder, wildfire, flooding of Biblical proportions.

Twitter.  I have actually learned a few things on Twitter.   But I can see it turning rather quickly into the 'same old, same old'.   As you point out, there are lots of people whistling past each other.  Useful back and forth is the exception.

I am happy to see this proliferation of substitutes for Twitter.    Think I will wait for a few glowing reviews of the new sites.
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Posted: Dec 19, 2022 - 2:28pm

 rgio wrote:

So assuming you're tired of the Twitter noise now, would you join a new platform, or just retreat a bit from social media?


I did both. Joined CounterSocial and Mastodon and Gab (really) and a few others just to stake out my four-letter name, and temporarily deactivated (now reactivated so no one could mess with my brand) my Twitter account.

But it all seems so weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable. The same people say the same things, have the same viewpoint. And the counter views are fueled by misinformation and irrational hatred. Sometimes RP gets that way, too, which is something HITLER would say. And then it feels sad: I've been here, like some of you, for a couple of decades. It's no fun to see everyone (including me) start bickering and name calling over something as ephemeral and temporary as elections. Those, too, shall pass.



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Posted: Dec 19, 2022 - 12:34pm

So assuming you're tired of the Twitter noise now, would you join a new platform, or just retreat a bit from social media?

As you might expect, there are existing options.  As you also might expect, there is the anti-Twitter startup that comes up quickly and is launching now to gain momentum while Elon's house is on fire.  The new site is calledPost.news 

As part of its one page self-introduction, it states:

Post will be a civil place to debate ideas; learn from experts, journalists, individual creators, and each other; converse freely; and have some fun. Many of today's ad-based platforms rely on capturing attention at any cost — sowing chaos in our society, amplifying the extremes, and muting the moderates. Post is designed to give the voice back to the sidelined majority; there are enough platforms for extremists, and we cannot relinquish the town square to them.

I've never been too active on social media: No FB posts since 2012 (a total of 2 I think in my career), No TikTok account.  I have Instagram only to follow beer releases (started 6-8 years ago during the go-go days of NEIPA's), and a total of maybe a dozen Twitter posts over a decade... but signed up to the waitlist to see what it's all about when given access.  My longest social media relationship is with LinkedIn.  I was actually the 71,490th person to sign up for LinkedIn a few decades ago (to help a friend drive users).  I'm not a fan, but today's business world requires some care and feeding on the platform.

So.... If Post is what it suggests it might be, maybe it's a cross between Medium / Wordpress...the non-BS component of LinkedIn... and Twitter... might you give it a whirl? That's a lot to ask of a new platform, but I signed up to get a reasonable username and test the waters.


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Posted: Dec 19, 2022 - 9:43am

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Emotional development for Musk - like Trump; ceased in adolescence. They still deal with the world from the self-centered perspective of a child.


Well, they are certainly very successful 'children' and both have managed to build massive public followings.    How would you characterize the people following these two celebrity narcissists?  

I ask because if the American people did not enable these two, they would have no power.  

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Posted: Dec 19, 2022 - 8:05am


The new CEO of Twitter....(?)


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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 7:09pm

I reckon, he is trying to bail and this is a way of doing it so that he can throw someone else under the bus if/when twitter fails. Still I voted yes because that is the better thing if you think there is anything of value left in the platform.
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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 6:51pm

 Steely_D wrote:

It's a sign of his (lack of) foresight and innovation and 3D-chess brain that he couldn't see that from the beginning.



Emotional development for Musk - like Trump; ceased in adolescence. They still deal with the world from the self-centered perspective of a child.

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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 6:00pm

 miamizsun wrote:
thinking regardless he's going to hand it off soon 
twitter needs a judge judy up front
he would be better served in back office/tech support/dev

It's a measure of his (lack of) foresight and innovation and 3D-chess brain that he couldn't see that from the beginning.



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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 5:39pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I voted no. Shine a light on this stuff. 


thinking regardless he's going to hand it off soon 
twitter needs a judge judy up front
he would be better served in back office/tech support/dev


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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 5:33pm

 miamizsun wrote:


i think it is a yes


Can I write in a vote that he forward $1 million to me? I will promise to stay off Twitter. And I won’t track his jet.



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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 5:28pm

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So, how's the poll going?


I voted no. Shine a light on this stuff. 
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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 5:27pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


So, how's the poll going?


i think it is a yes
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Posted: Dec 18, 2022 - 5:25pm

 islander wrote:


an obvious ploy to get people back on the platform.

I seriuosly wonder if he had a bet with Ye about  who could be the strangest by the end of the year. 


i thought he was always planning to bring in new leadership
but that was back in nov
if it holds who will the he/the board bring in?
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