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Neil Young — Throw Your Hatred Down
Album: Mirror Ball
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Released: 1995
Length: 5:38
Plays (last 30 days): 4
Here in the conscious world
We place our theories down
Why man must bring us to our knees
Before he sees the weakness of his sinful plan
The power in his hand
Will never touch a friend

Throw your hatred down
Throw your hatred down

Meanwhile in the underworld
The weaknesses are seen
By peasants and presidents
Who plan the counter-scheme
Children in the schoolyard
Finish choosing teams
Divided by their dreams
While a TV screams

Throw your weapons down
Throw your weapons down

The wheel of fortune
Keeps on rollin' down
The street that's paved with sinful plans
There but for circumstance
May go you or I
Dressed in gold lame
Find a place to stay

Throw your hatred down
Throw your hatred down
Throw your hatred down
Throw your weapons down
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Here in the conscious world
We place our theories down
Why man must bring us to our knees
Before he sees the weakness of his sinful plan
The power in his hand
Will never touch a friend


NY may have been psychic about DJT

 RParadise wrote:

If you were of draft age when the National Guard gunned down 4 college students and then heard "Ohio" for the first time live during the Four Way Street concert (as I did), you would not think so.

In fact, given what happened earlier this week, the line, "What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground.  How could you run when you know?" sounds more connected to reality than ever.  (For when this post gets old: 17 students shot to death in their high school in Florida.)
Don't worry--it seems this post will never get old (19 elementary school children shot dead in Texas yesterday).
This just went up from 8->9 Amazingly powerful, both in message as in music
 torino390 wrote:

I have no real idea why, but I just can't stand this guys music. 



Unless you were there in the 60's and very early 70's, he does seem to be an acquired taste.  But he's certainly had his moments and within his body of work there are some amazing recordings.  Gotta appreciate him putting it all out there even when sometimes it doesn't work all that well... 
 (former member) wrote:


While Neil might be considered left, the message is not about left or right. It is universal. Throw your hatred down, or as a true yogi might say, master your anger!


I prefer the yogi's version. It's less accusatory, more constructive...
 On_The_Beach wrote:
Throw your weapons down.




Is this the reason, why Putin started war? Is he unhappy not to be mentioned in this picture?
NY Is on my do not play list. Next...
 otis_of_moab wrote:

Talented song writer. 

 

But, his politics are unhinged from reality.



I humbly beg to disagree.  Many, if not most, of the really talented song writers create songs that make us imagine a world where love is the norm, and where politicians actually make laws that benefit all.

The fact that activists for social change often use the songs of these artists as a part of their rallying cry, demonstrates their impact.   I applaud Neil Young and others like him.

AND I applaud Bill and Rebecca for playing so many songs from these artists.  It's one of the main reasons that I continue to support RP and stay tuned in, especially in these turbulent times (as all times appear to be).  

 ralf-peter.hayen538 wrote:

In a deeper sense, this is certainly true, but in a very direct sense on CBS Thursday's "Late Show" Neil has called Trump (right wing) a hater of women ("misogyny") and a racist, while taking the opposite view about Bernie Sanders (left wing), whom he supported in the past presidential elections:

https://www.businessinsider.com/neil-young-on-donald-trump-2016-5?r=DE&IR=T



This song was written and released about 20 years before Neil Young's appearance on The Late Show.
As the post you responded to said about this song: "While Neil might be considered left, the message is not about left or right."
At least we can still hear Neal Young here!
Spotify Who?
WOW!
Tom Petty's "Runnin' Down a Dream"  followed by this Neil Young gem.  What a great way to start my weekend!  I hope the downstairs tenants don't mind hearing this pensioner doing a wild kitchen dance on this Saturday morning.Thank you, Bill and Rebecca.
Neil makes and orchestrates such a rich tapestry of textures and resonances, and is able to raise it all to a feverish level of intensity!
 3Chords wrote:



He is still jammin' out!!!!!
Bran Van ?? 
 wolverine wrote:
Love Neil and his crunchy guitars


...crunchy...exactly...
 justin4kick wrote:
Throw your weapons down



Where is this piece from? It is VERY impressive. Who is the artist?
 justin4kick wrote:
Throw your weapons down



What a awesome piece! And so American!
Oh Yeah —- throw them down
The wonderful, original FU artist - sings it as he sees it - keep on rocking in the free world Neil :)
Great music! His voice is still not my cup of tea...
~~~AMEN~~~~
Cool video!
 justin4kick wrote:
Throw your weapons down

 

 kingart wrote:

I don't know that racism and hatred have been normalized.  What HAVE been normalized are the corrupt pay-for-play Citizens United dark money politicians who usually do whatever their patrons pay them to do.  That is what has been normalized, and if indulging racism, intolerance and violence against immigrants and people of color is what the secret donors expect for the maintenance of their power, that is what we get.  It's about fear and control.  I don't know that racism and hatred, per se, are by themselves the only issues, although they are very much in the mix.  If you want to lower the temperature and the hatred, get rid of many of the fucking politicians bought by big undisclosed money. They steal our money --A HUGE AMOUNT OF OUR MONEY -- and our votes, our public lands and our environment.  With fear and guns and power money they can really screw things up.  On the scale of it, what are 10 - 15,000+ lives lost per year to racially-stoked gun violence and economic oppression to keep reminding the peons who the fuck is in charge? VOTE. Then with one hand shake your neighbor's hand, and with the other flip the middle finger to these hosebags.  Just sayin'. 
 
You mean like the public sector unions and their political patrons? Couldn't agree more.
 kingart wrote:

I don't know that racism and hatred have been normalized.  What HAVE been normalized are the corrupt pay-for-play Citizens United dark money politicians who usually do whatever their patrons pay them to do.  That is what has been normalized, and if indulging racism, intolerance and violence against immigrants and people of color is what the secret donors expect for the maintenance of their power, that is what we get.  It's about fear and control.  I don't know that racism and hatred, per se, are by themselves the only issues, although they are very much in the mix.  If you want to lower the temperature and the hatred, get rid of many of the fucking politicians bought by big undisclosed money. They steal our money --A HUGE AMOUNT OF OUR MONEY -- and our votes, our public lands and our environment.  With fear and guns and power money they can really screw things up.  On the scale of it, what are 10 - 15,000+ lives lost per year to racially-stoked gun violence and economic oppression to keep reminding the peons who the fuck is in charge? VOTE. Then with one hand shake your neighbor's hand, and with the other flip the middle finger to these hosebags.  Just sayin'. 
 
So true. I've worked for the Kock Bros, Rodger Ailes and Dick Chaney.  Our system is so screwed up it is mind boggling.
Pump the music way up high and put those weapons down✌️
 noe.architecte169 wrote:
This song is like "living in L.A." from a group I don't remember the name. But it's very so near 
 
But not the Weezer another group
This song is like "living in L.A." from a group I don't remember the name. But it's very so near 
As another Canadian AND someone who lives in the US NW No, it’s for the US to embrace
 roger841 wrote:
From a fellow Canadian I echo Neil's words today to our southern friends - throw your weapons down. 
 

you first
From a fellow Canadian I echo Neil's words today to our southern friends - throw your weapons down. 
 cavemanleong wrote:
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
 
Agreed.  Tell that to the left.
A call to arms
Stick the volume up to 10✌️
Just checking to make sure I've got this at 10.
 paulprior61 wrote:

justin4kick - I'd like to share this, where could I find a link for it? thanks

Michael Murphy's Epic Anti-Gun Artwork for the DNC in 2016. 
Constructed of dozens of suspended black gun sculptures—ranging from handguns to assault rifles, the installation is a perspective piece that changes in shape as the viewer walks around it.


Michael Murphy (sculptor) - Wikipedia

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Wow.  I goggled "3D gun art"  Mr. Murphy's anamorphic sculptures are stupendous!  I even like his non-gun stuff better.  Long Live RP and the rabbit hole I've already headed down!!

 cavemanleong wrote:
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
 

Seems to me that's exactly what we've been doing with the cancel culture!
 jelgator wrote:

Agreed.  Tell that to the left.
 

Not sure where you live (presuming the USA), but in every part of the country I've been to, when there are protests, this and songs like it are coming from the left and not from the guys with body armor, hawaiian shirts and AR-15s.

Incidentally, this is what Neil had to say about the lyrical content of Mirror Ball, the album containing this song: 

"There's idealism and reality, the two have got to come together yet there are always major problems when they do. Maybe that's the crux of what I'm trying to say in this new album. It's also a commentary of the differences between my peace and love '60s generation and the more cynical '90s generation."

 pankman wrote:
Wow, that rocks! Powerful drumming too. Excellent!

Animal
 
It's amazing how good he can sound with a competent drummer.
 jelgator wrote:

Agreed.  Tell that to the left.
Treason-Of-Images-Shadow

 cavemanleong wrote:
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
 
Agreed.  Tell that to the left.
 On_The_Beach wrote:

That is awesome, justin4kick.
Pleasantly surprised to see no thumbs down votes.
 
justin4kick - I'd like to share this, where could I find a link for it? thanks
 On_The_Beach wrote:

That is awesome, justin4kick.
Pleasantly surprised to see no thumbs down votes.
 

Rock on Neil and Pearl Jam,awesome with a simple,power message,throw those bloody weapons down!!!!!
 benfitch523 wrote:

Like him or not, you can't deny it
 
Deny what? That's he's a criminal idiot that is working for Putin and undermining our very democracy and country?
 RParadise wrote:

If you were of draft age when the National Guard gunned down 4 college students and then heard "Ohio" for the first time live during the Four Way Street concert (as I did), you would not think so.

In fact, given what happened earlier this week, the line, "What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground.  How could you run when you know?" sounds more connected to reality than ever.  (For when this post gets old: 17 students shot to death in their high school in Florida.)
 
As of 7/22/20: 31 empathetic people and 2 gun nuts have voted on this post.
 ToddyWoddy wrote:
Pearl Jam with Neil Young was as seamless a match as velcro coming together...
 
Two great tastes that taste great together!  
 cavemanleong wrote:
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
 
Sadly, a year after your post, we have the murder of George Floyd.
Pearl Jam with Neil Young was as seamless a match as velcro coming together...
I have no real idea why, but I just can't stand this guys music. 
 justin4kick wrote:
Throw your weapons down

 
That is awesome, justin4kick.
Pleasantly surprised to see no thumbs down votes.
Throw yer microphone down Neil. Please.  
This record was recorded with Pearl Jam as the "band" with NY. You can hear the influence NY had on the group on the  PJ ep Mirkenball and the album No Code which followed their time with NY.

Some regard the time making this record as helping Pearl Jam to get over the intensity of their early career and help set them up for the lengthy and rocking career that they have had. Don't know how true that is, but I am glad that this record happened. 
 jelgator wrote:

"Hater" = doesn't agree with my thinking, so he/she is to be hated.
 
Hum, no, i think the message is pretty clear: 

Throw Your Hatred Down


Mirror Ball really rocks as most of Pearl Jam is here. One of my fav of his.  I good blend of song topics also, so not all political. 
 ralf-peter.hayen538 wrote:
The right message from Neil to all the right-wing populist "haters", especially on social networks (and their prominent role models in the USA, Brazil, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere).
 
"Hater" = doesn't agree with my thinking, so he/she is to be hated.
de tous les concerts que j'ai vus (avec un s)
C'est juste la jalousie de ne pas avoir eu cette chance là. Voir Neil Young en concert.
:-)
De tous les concerts que j'ai vu, Neil Young reste un des plus fort. Comment il dompte la foudre avec sa Gibson, puis l'émotion qu'il dégage seul avec sa Martin, sa voix inimitable et son harmo... Un grand ! 
I just love the punch,the grit and grind of his guitar playing,raw to the bone,awesome👍
Throw your weapons down



For those who are interested in the work of this artist:

The hanging sculpture, titled Identity Crisis belongs to Brooklyn artist Michael Murphy, who writes that it, "is about the United States rooting its image in violence and intimidation." Shift your perspective from the front to the side, and the whole thing ceases to be America, instead becoming one giant handgun.

You can find more of the artist on https://www.perceptualart.com/

Definitely worth a visit!
Whoa!! This is why I LOVE RP; I missed this album despite being a NY fan. Now I’ve gotta go buy it. His guitar work just kills me. A 9 from me.
PJ
Throw your weapons down.

 Ohmsen wrote:


While Neil might be considered left, the message is not about left or right. It is universal. Throw your hatred down, or as a true yogi might say, master your anger!
 
In a deeper sense, this is certainly true, but in a very direct sense on CBS Thursday's "Late Show" Neil has called Trump (right wing) a hater of women ("misogyny") and a racist, while taking the opposite view about Bernie Sanders (left wing), whom he supported in the past presidential elections:

https://www.businessinsider.com/neil-young-on-donald-trump-2016-5?r=DE&IR=T

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 ralf-peter.hayen538 wrote:
The right message from Neil to all the right-wing populist "haters", especially on social networks (and their prominent role models in the USA, Brazil, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere).
 

While Neil might be considered left, the message is not about left or right. It is universal. Throw your hatred down, or as a true yogi might say, master your anger!
The right message from Neil to all the right-wing populist "haters", especially on social networks (and their prominent role models in the USA, Brazil, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere).
 benfitch523 wrote:

Like him or not, you can't deny that....he's a piece of shit....
 
had to finish your thought on that one
 sfyi2001 wrote:
               
 
Like him or not, you can't deny it
Disagree with some of Young's politics but do love his earnestness.  

Not one of his better protest/social, political commentary songs but still good.   Young manages this immediacy, this loving impatience that is frankly, not that common.  Others try but do not pull it off so well.
I've always been impressed with Neil's versatility... from country (Harvest) to folk (Gold Rush) to grunge/rock (here)... heck even do-wap (Shocking Pinks).  Other comments may imply a lack of talent... I disagree.  I find Neil's music is excellent.  Less is more - he never professed to be a complicated songwriter, nor a virtuoso vocalist.  He gets the job done.
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
say what you will, I think they are an awesome couple.
 
It is just one photo, but yeah, nice chemistry.   
Pearl Jam sure gave him some juice on this album
 cavemanleong wrote:
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
 
I don't know that racism and hatred have been normalized.  What HAVE been normalized are the corrupt pay-for-play Citizens United dark money politicians who usually do whatever their patrons pay them to do.  That is what has been normalized, and if indulging racism, intolerance and violence against immigrants and people of color is what the secret donors expect for the maintenance of their power, that is what we get.  It's about fear and control.  I don't know that racism and hatred, per se, are by themselves the only issues, although they are very much in the mix.  If you want to lower the temperature and the hatred, get rid of many of the fucking politicians bought by big undisclosed money. They steal our money --A HUGE AMOUNT OF OUR MONEY -- and our votes, our public lands and our environment.  With fear and guns and power money they can really screw things up.  On the scale of it, what are 10 - 15,000+ lives lost per year to racially-stoked gun violence and economic oppression to keep reminding the peons who the fuck is in charge? VOTE. Then with one hand shake your neighbor's hand, and with the other flip the middle finger to these hosebags.  Just sayin'. 
Great segue from Mumford &Sons “Snakeyes”!  Good job, Bill.  
 cavemanleong wrote:
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
 
Yes, indeed!
 yoksa wrote:
Niel can't really sing, at best average guitarist as well as a composer and, occasionally,  great lyricist. The most overrated artist of his generation.  
 

No, Tom Petty has that wrapped up solid.
I want to like this but, maybe because I’m trying to work, the random cymbal clashing and LOUD guitar in the background and his vague warbling isn’t doing it for me.
I love this album! Lots of rocking with Pearl Jam helping. 
 wolverine wrote:
Love Neil and his crunchy guitars
 
his ONE NOTE solo in Cinnamon Girl is epic
say what you will, I think they are an awesome couple.
 yoksa wrote:
Niel can't really sing, at best average guitarist as well as a composer and, occasionally,  great lyricist. The most overrated artist of his generation.  
 
Well, then it's probably a good thing that RP usually doesn't play much Niel. 
Neil, on the other hand FRIGGIN ROCKS and as everyone knows is way UNDER rated.
Neil Young may not be for everyone but I LOVE him. Maybe I like his voice so much because when I sing along I sound as good as he does.  
Love Neil and his crunchy guitars
 yoksa wrote: 
Niel can't really sing, at best average guitarist as well as a composer and, occasionally,  great lyricist. The most overrated artist of his generation.  
  
Is your day job being a music critic?
 yoksa wrote:
Niel can't really sing, at best average guitarist as well as a composer and, occasionally,  great lyricist. The most overrated artist of his generation.  
 
I grew up really digging Neil, but I'm finding him more and more irritating as time goes on. There are some classics, but just about everything w/electric guitar is almost unbearable. 
 benhardt57 wrote:

The "orange guy" loves the people of his country and that's interpreted as hatred. 
Up is down and black is white. The world has done gone to hell. 
 
Let’s be honest... the “orange guy” loves himself. Everything else is clearly BS.
 gofishbish wrote:
LOL - whaaa...huh?

Ok, wow. So... apparently there's hatred coming from all different directions. 

And I'm pretty sure (I'd hope at least) ol' Neil was talking about alllllll hatred.

ExploitingChaos wrote:
Impeach the orange guy already jeez

 


 
The "orange guy" loves the people of his country and that's interpreted as hatred. 
Up is down and black is white. The world has done gone to hell. 
Niel can't really sing, at best average guitarist as well as a composer and, occasionally,  great lyricist. The most overrated artist of his generation.  
Sensitive people see it coming a long way off.

Image result for charlottesville hatred
I love this.  Those cymbals are getting a bit of a hiding.
LOL - whaaa...huh?

Ok, wow. So... apparently there's hatred coming from all different directions. 

And I'm pretty sure (I'd hope at least) ol' Neil was talking about alllllll hatred.

ExploitingChaos wrote:
Impeach the orange guy already jeez




 

When Neil is on, he is ON. With the boys from PJ on the case, this is him being on. Most of the songs on this cd/ep -  like some of Neil's other cd's - don't always live up to the quality of this song. But, this is one of the good ones. And - regards acoustic Neil vs electric Neil, I'll take the latter, thank you very much. Having seen him live 5 times now, I can say, he's a lot fun to watch when he pulls out that black electric of his.
Thank you for this today, Bill!!  {#Bananajam}
Another very appropriate song for the crazy times we're living in at the moment.  Racism and hatred must never be normalized.
Kick ass set of music this evening, Bill.  Much appreciated and enjoyed.  
Impeach the orange guy already jeez

 kingart wrote:
Mr. T's Walk of Fame star has since been busted up for the second time by a 1) pickaxe patriot, 2) vandal, 3) crackpot, 4) rejected Apprentice contestant, 5) shouldn't that thing be in NYC anyway?, we'd tell you where to plant it.  

sfyi2001 wrote:
               

 

 

this is neil's song of the day at his archives site ... 8/17/18
class is in session ... this is why you love/hate him ... discuss
from youtube ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpAFjMxc40&start_radio=1&list=RDLxpAFjMxc40

ps ... the kids in his pick up band seem to be having a good time
Mr. T's Walk of Fame star has since been busted up for the second time by a 1) pickaxe patriot, 2) vandal, 3) crackpot, 4) rejected Apprentice contestant, 5) shouldn't that thing be in NYC anyway?, we'd tell you where to plant it.  

sfyi2001 wrote:
               

 

Sorry, but I can’t bear Neil Young playing electric guitar.  His wailing voice is bearable with an acoustic, but with a wailing guitar tone and that howl, too much!  
 On_The_Beach wrote:
https://www.ohridsky.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/north-korea-usa-live-missile-launch-latest-news-847546.jpg
Throw your weapons down.

 
Amen to throwing weapons down.
I love Neil Young's music just in the same way as I love Van Halen's. Sometimes messy, but always sincere and uncalculated, always something happening, and a distinctive sound, impossible not to listen till the end of the song. Interesting to read haters' comments though. I'm glad I don't understand anything about US politics ^^
Rock-on Kermit....

 teleskier wrote:
When this came out it really brought Neil young into a new audience.  It was a cardboard bifold CD and I remember when I bought it.  It was released in the summer of 1995. 

I remember the album primarily because it was in heavy rotation on the road trip through the upper midwest following Grateful Dead around on their (not yet known) final run of shows.  It was a point in time bridging generations - I was 18 watching the Dead, and this album bridged Neil Young with my generations mega band Pearl Jam.

 
Good stuff.
I had very similar memories of this album... just out of college and working on a cattle ranch in Montana... looking for some direction along life's winding roads. Haven't found it yet!


When this came out it really brought Neil young into a new audience.  It was a cardboard bifold CD and I remember when I bought it.  It was released in the summer of 1995. 

I remember the album primarily because it was in heavy rotation on the road trip through the upper midwest following Grateful Dead around on their (not yet known) final run of shows.  It was a point in time bridging generations - I was 18 watching the Dead, and this album bridged Neil Young with my generations mega band Pearl Jam.
 otis_of_moab wrote:

Talented song writer. 

 

But, his politics are unhinged from reality.



 
If you were of draft age when the National Guard gunned down 4 college students and then heard "Ohio" for the first time live during the Four Way Street concert (as I did), you would not think so.

In fact, given what happened earlier this week, the line, "What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground.  How could you run when you know?" sounds more connected to reality than ever.  (For when this post gets old: 17 students shot to death in their high school in Florida.)
 ShamPh0t wrote:
Sorry Bill, I hope you lose your taste for Neil Young. I've heard enough and always thought he was an idiot. (Did I really say that?!?)

 

Talented song writer. 

 

But, his politics are unhinged from reality.


8 —> 9
{#Dancingbanana}
Sorry Bill, I hope you lose your taste for Neil Young. I've heard enough and always thought he was an idiot. (Did I really say that?!?)

This record is obscure by now, but I just love the whole thing. Thanks RP.
 SmileOnADog wrote:

So was (Banned) really banned for voicing non-liberal opinions, or is that just a clever handle?

 
That second one...
{#Dancingbanana}
               
 Typesbad wrote:
I like Neil's lyrics of late, but it doesn't seem like he pays any attention any more to the sound.  It is all the same, just a big wall of sound with a 4/4 beat.  I still like his careening guitar solos, but it is't enough.  I think back to Ohio.  You can recognize that song in the first rapid fire five notes and through the whole of it no other song sounds like that.  I can point to several old Neil songs like that.

Because of this complaint I haven't purchased a Neil Young album in a long time.  Are there songs in the newer albums that don't get played but offer what I'm looking for? 

 
I don't think he's been concerned with a "clean" or "professional" sound for a while, especially when it comes to up-tempo stuff.  Maybe he's trying to re-create the sound from records like "Cinnamon Girl".  Also, aside from a few "waltz-time" tunes, he hasn't written very many songs which are not in 4/4 time.
 (Banned) wrote:
I hate this song.

 
it does seem to go on for quite a while,
I know most people are going to hate this but I never cared for Neil Young on electric guitar, his solos are lame 
 justin4kick wrote:
As long as 10 is the high end of the scale I will be thrifty with 10's because so little songs can compare with this one.
 
Exactly. 10s are not to be taken lightly. I saw Mr Young play this live once and it was equally as powerful - indeed the fact it was live and he gave it heartfelt energy made it go to 11. . . which of course is entirely possible on a Quantum basis.  

So was (Banned) really banned for voicing non-liberal opinions, or is that just a clever handle?

Go back far enough you can find skeletons in anyone's closet. I never use the term "libtards" as I feel it is disrespectful and lacks nuance in characterizing people's diverse opinions, but the number of double standards and hypocrisy that became very publicly manifest in 2016 was a little breath taking to me, this titular proverb notwithstanding.  It was disappointing to see such hate coming from what is more or less billed as the Peace Love and Understanding crowd.