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The Charlatans — Here Comes A Soul Saver
Album: The Charlatans
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Released: 1995
Length: 3:17
Plays (last 30 days): 2
Here comes a soul saver
On your record player
Floatin' about in the dust
You sing the joys baby
I'll be down when you're free from the rust

Take your pick who's your savior
Come in five different flavors

Tell me I'm sweeter than your broken leader
I'll take the smooth with the rough
I see you lying there
Put him down no reply in the sand, in the mud.

Don't kick it I wanna keep it
Don't feel it I wanna drive
In the sunshine of my life
In the sunshine of your life
Can you feel it when it's right?

Can you feel it in your soul
Can you feel what's goin' on?
Yeah! Right

Don't kick it I wanna freeze it
Don't feel it I wanna drive
It's the sunshine of my life
It's the sunshine of my life
Can you feel it when it's right?

Look it comes
And when it flows like your country song
What's going on Going on Going on
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 stevebeaver wrote:

I like other Charltans tunes, but taking the Floyd riff is lame.



Not so sure about that, I liked it in the song.  It was a nice addition.
 aspicer wrote:

As I belive ColoradoJohn pointed out. The PF Fearless riff IS a HOMAGE to them - not a "rip off" everyone. Chill out, relax, and enjoy the tune. :)



I like to refer to this sort of usage (a little too overt to be "homage") as a "quote." A great many excellent modern songs have quoted from the classics.
GOOD TUNE!  Blackened Blue Eyes is my favorite tune by them.  Thanx RP!
What's with stealing the riff from Fearless (Pink Floyd).  Now I hate these guys. I do not like anyone who steals intellectual property and does not give credit!
 Pips914 wrote:

Please everyone - continue to point out that the riff isn't an original! Your posts are so entertaining, and your disdain is so exhilarating and refreshing! I feel like I haven't read good music criticism until I saw this thread! I am just so glad you all took your valuable time to write such introspective and original posts! I feel like I just read Shakespeare for the first time! I am so excited that I can't stop using exclamation points!




I do see some plagiarism in the 'riff pointing out' posts. It really bothers me when people point out ripped off riffs when their complaint is a rip off of someone else's disdain in riff swiping swiping posts.  
 aspicer wrote:

As I belive ColoradoJohn pointed out. The PF Fearless riff IS a HOMAGE to them - not a "rip off" everyone. Chill out, relax, and enjoy the tune. :)



Exactly!!!!
Not like any other band hasn't borrowed anything before this!!!
No wonder they're called The Charlatans, ripping off Floyd like that
 radiozep wrote:
harmaton wrote: Agreed...


If you call it a tribute your soul will shine much brighter.
This sucks on several levels
1. they stole the name of an incredible creative underappreciated 60s band
2. they stole the Fearless riff off Pink Floyds Meddle!
Charlatans!
As I belive ColoradoJohn pointed out. The PF Fearless riff IS a HOMAGE to them - not a "rip off" everyone. Chill out, relax, and enjoy the tune. :)
HERE COMES ANOTHER SOUL SAVER ON YOUR RECORD PLAYER...
was not a rip-off, it was a powerful homage to PF, and being Fearless, and both amazing groups have been and continue to be real, honest soul-savers to me! The song also has lines from other soul-savers: "In the sunshine of your...", "What's goin' on".  Art is ART; let's JAM!
I interviewed a few 'rock stars' in my day and they always loved me when I avoided talking about their past and featured their current work. In doing so, I got some interesting info from them. Allan Parsons and Stewart Copeland were two of the artists I talked to. And no, I did not ask Allan about his opinion if the riff in this song was peeled off of another song. ;-) 
 silby wrote:

I'll bet the Fearless ripoff was not intentional.   It is musically near exact, but it's not a complicated phrase (super simple actually) and every now and then two different guitarists will come up the same riff.   There are only 12 notes LOL


I think probably it was intentional because there were quite a few other obvious 'homages' on the same album - nine acre court.  I like that album - they copied all the right stuff.
Sneaky,I hear the Pink Floyd riff in this songšŸ¤”
I was working, happy listening to RP like I do, and heard the Pink Floyd riff. I got excited to hear this song, and pulled my attention (and window) up, only to see it was the Charlatans. Aptly named....
the fearless riff made me like the song moreā€¦

I'll bet the Fearless ripoff was not intentional.   It is musically near exact, but it's not a complicated phrase (super simple actually) and every now and then two different guitarists will come up the same riff.   There are only 12 notes LOL
 acferrad wrote:

Ripped off a Pink Floyd riff there.... :(



Why is it a rip off?  they played it , it sounded cool.  
Without more information (liner notes?), its not possible to know whether the 'Fearless' riff is being intertextually incorporated for a deliberate musical purpose, like Kanye West with the Ray Charles sample ("Golddigger"). "Fearless" by the PF ALSO incorporates a field recording of "You'll Never Walk Alone." So this may be a deliberate build upon a riff in a song that itself is built upon another song. Without more info its hard to know what the story is but the fact they are riffing on another song that also is partially built around another song is significant if its deliberate.

Since Bill often follows it up with Cymbaline by PF, its clear Bill is doing his "cover version/different song by original" narrative here, which works very well as a segue tool.
They are called the Charlatans, not the Only original Music
 acferrad wrote:

Ripped off a Pink Floyd riff there.... :(



Really, does anyone own a riff?  
Oasis clones playing Pink Floyd riffs
The Charlatans - certainly live up to their name.....Not a bad tune but a total rip off....so where's the originality lads....bloody hell, get a grip boys...
Ripped off a Pink Floyd riff there.... :(
 drawcard wrote:

When the world collapses, and cities wash into the sea, and great volcanoes destroy the mountains and the Earth is swamped by lava and turns to rock, and the solar system drifts toward a black hole and is ripped apart, and the galaxies all spread apart and every atom in the Universe is torn to shreds and ceases to exist, the RP community will still point out the riff was stolen from Pink Floyd.



If Bill doesn't give mild commentary on this comment? Well...
 drawcard wrote:

When the world collapses, and cities wash into the sea, and great volcanoes destroy the mountains and the Earth is swamped by lava and turns to rock, and the solar system drifts toward a black hole and is ripped apart, and the galaxies all spread apart and every atom in the Universe is torn to shreds and ceases to exist, the RP community will still point out the riff was stolen from Pink Floyd.



Because we're old, we've listened to too much music, and we're not going to take it any more!!
So what. It's a solid piece and apparently PF don't care. So, why should you? FO!
I really enjoy the Fearless reference!  The guitar tones and faster tempo transforms it into something new (though hardly new anymore) with clear respect for the original.  I bet a lot of kids in the 90s heard this first but then later discovered Fearless and loved it 
 radiozep wrote:
harmaton wrote: Agreed...

And as Bill is playing Fat Old Sun after it, I suspect he agrees.
Holy-Pink-Floyd-Rip-Off Batman!
That Hammond sounds incredible.
 drawcard wrote:

When the world collapses, and cities wash into the sea, and great volcanoes destroy the mountains and the Earth is swamped by lava and turns to rock, and the solar system drifts toward a black hole and is ripped apart, and the galaxies all spread apart and every atom in the Universe is torn to shreds and ceases to exist, the RP community will still point out the riff was stolen from Pink Floyd.



Well, look up the definition of "charlatan"....
Bass-y
 stevebeaver wrote:
I like other Charltans tunes, but taking the Floyd riff is lame.
 
Well they are The Charlatans.
"Pink Floyd ripoff" Gah!!! 
(ignoring the whole Oasis sound...)

So, naturally Bill segues to Fat Old Sun.


In classic RP style this is followed in the playlist with a David Gilmour song.

Well played sir. Well played.
oh oh.........somebody ripped off Floyd
 rpdevotee wrote:
Blatant Pink Floyd Fearless rip off.  Bill you shouldn't play this and thereby promote plagiarism 
 
If using a short sequence of notes with a specific chord structure is plagiarism, there must be thousands of "actionable" cases. I suggest giving this issue a rest. Of course, nearly everyone who hears this tune recognize that this is an homage to Fearless. How do you see this as a "ripoff"? This point is so tired, by now.
Why get exercised over the use of this riff?  It's like getting upset whenever you hear the Purdie Shuffle sampled in some song. 
 drawcard wrote:
When the world collapses, and cities wash into the sea, and great volcanoes destroy the mountains and the Earth is swamped by lava and turns to rock, and the solar system drifts toward a black hole and is ripped apart, and the galaxies all spread apart and every atom in the Universe is torn to shreds and ceases to exist, the RP community will still point out the riff was stolen from Pink Floyd.
 
Does PF et al get royalties from it?
When the world collapses, and cities wash into the sea, and great volcanoes destroy the mountains and the Earth is swamped by lava and turns to rock, and the solar system drifts toward a black hole and is ripped apart, and the galaxies all spread apart and every atom in the Universe is torn to shreds and ceases to exist, the RP community will still point out the riff was stolen from Pink Floyd.
Blatant Pink Floyd Fearless rip off.  Bill you shouldn't play this and thereby promote plagiarism 
 stevebeaver wrote:
I like other Charltans tunes, but taking the Floyd riff is lame.
 
I think it's really a nod/homage to PF not a rip off. These guys don't "need" that at all to succeed.
Ahahaha. BillG playing David Gilmour after this song that has so many folks up in arms about the "Meddle" riff. Cheers, Bill!
Have to give this a poor score for stealing from Pink Floyd so blatantly
 ckcotton wrote:

and this was the very second comment ever 13 years back..... let's all move on.

Myself included 
 
But isn't that kinda cool too?  One of two things must be true.  Either the elders among us (myself included) still have some functioning memory, or our collective consciousnees spans more than one generation.
Totally ripped off
Howard Lee 
wrote:
harmaton wrote:
completely ripped off Pink Floyd's riff in Fearless on Meddle
Agreed...
 
 jacopo777 wrote:


The attorneys don't bother with small potatoes.  This band doesn't  make enough money.
 
The Verve are arguably a one-hit wonder with Bittersweet Symphony.  And yet all the royalties did once to The Rolling Stones (among others)?

correct LP cover?
 Pips914 wrote:
Please everyone - continue to point out that the riff isn't an original! Your posts are so entertaining, and your disdain is so exhilarating and refreshing! I feel like I haven't read good music criticism until I saw this thread! I am just so glad you all took your valuable time to write such introspective and original posts! I feel like I just read Shakespeare for the first time! I am so excited that I can't stop using exclamation points!
 

salt
This is better than fearless because it has no Liverpool fans in the mix.
 radiozep wrote:
harmaton wrote:
completely ripped off Pink Floyd's riff in Fearless on Meddle
Agreed...
 
noticed that as well
 Tim_Coletti wrote:
This is Fearless...  They are borrowing?  Do they Credit?
 

The attorneys don't bother with small potatoes.  This band doesn't  make enough money.
 radiozep wrote:
harmaton wrote:
completely ripped off Pink Floyd's riff in Fearless on Meddle
Agreed...
 

it throws me for a loop every time. But they are called the charlatans. 
The cover used by RP is for a completely different Charlatans album. Great song, though!
 ziggytrix wrote:
That repeated PF riff reminds me of a story my friend told me about a Smashing Pumpkins concert during a point in time where the band was not getting along so well, and, to hear my friend tell it, James Iha kept inserting a riff from Guns N Roses' Sweet Child of Mine into nearly every song they played that night.

That's a secondhand story, so I probably have a few aspects wrong, but it makes me giggle anyway.
 
That made me laugh out loud. I would have loved to see Billy getting bent out of shape that his masterpieces were being subtly undermined.
or those who really know Radio Paradise 

michaelmuller wrote:
I love how they pair up songs like this. And in this case, only those who really know Floyd would get this particular connection.
 

blotto wrote:
exactly what I was thinking, oh wait, this is from the past, must be deja vu wednesday 

hosayf wrote:
Did they follow with David Gilmour because part of that last one sounded a bit like Floyd's "Fearless?"

 

 

 

This is Fearless...  They are borrowing?  Do they Credit?
Total rip
 agd3 wrote:

Yep
 

SAME HERE  --  really close to identical

 MilesW wrote:

I heard that right away, too...
 
Yep
 Steely_D wrote:
Hey, part of this sounds like "Fearless"!
 
I heard that right away, too...
Hey, part of this sounds like "Fearless"!
 Delawhere wrote:
Ok, so this is not just a bad cover of Fearless. I like it better now.

 
More like lame ripoff
Ok, so this is not just a bad cover of Fearless. I like it better now.
I love how they pair up songs like this. And in this case, only those who really know Floyd would get this particular connection.
 

blotto wrote:
exactly what I was thinking, oh wait, this is from the past, must be deja vu wednesday 

hosayf wrote:
Did they follow with David Gilmour because part of that last one sounded a bit like Floyd's "Fearless?"

 

 


exactly what I was thinking, oh wait, this is from the past, must be deja vu wednesday 

hosayf wrote:
Did they follow with David Gilmour because part of that last one sounded a bit like Floyd's "Fearless?"

 


Did they follow with David Gilmour because part of that last one sounded a bit like Floyd's "Fearless?"
Oops, should've scrolled down... already well covered, of course

Helped themselves to some old Pink Floyd. Was credit given where due?


That repeated PF riff reminds me of a story my friend told me about a Smashing Pumpkins concert during a point in time where the band was not getting along so well, and, to hear my friend tell it, James Iha kept inserting a riff from Guns N Roses' Sweet Child of Mine into nearly every song they played that night.

That's a secondhand story, so I probably have a few aspects wrong, but it makes me giggle anyway.
 Dave_Mack wrote:
Anybody hear Pink Floyd's "Fearless" in there?
 
and this was the very second comment ever 13 years back..... let's all move on.

Myself included 
 trick1975 wrote:
Haven't been on here for a while as work have clamped down on internet radio usage. I uploaded this song some time ago and IIRC put in the notes about the track that the 'Fearless' connection would possibly create a bit of discussion. I admit it's not one of their strongest tracks, but it's nice to get The Charlatans talked about once in a while!
 
That comment is 11 years old and people are still acting like they came up with the connection just now......
Do they publish an acknowledgment to Pink Floyd anywhere for this? If not, they should be ashamed for claiming it is as their own.
Stole that from Pink Floyd, should be sued!
Yep, Fearless all the way!  Nice now following up with Fat Old Sun 
 Hannio wrote:
Hey!  I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but that riff is just like the one in that Pink Floyd song!!

 
{#Lol} This may seem crazy, but no one else noticed. It reminds me of that song by Mumford & Sons too. {#Wink}
 Hannio wrote:
Hey!  I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but that riff is just like the one in that Pink Floyd song!!

 
yup, they borrowed that riff from Fearless (Meddle album)
 Hannio wrote:
Hey!  I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but that riff is just like the one in that Pink Floyd song!!

 
I think that's intended. I like how they've peppered the whole song with musical references. Nice Medley


Now I want to listen to it a few more times for the musical 'references' I missed. Kind of brilliant.
So many better Charlatans tunes that could be played on RP....?  {#Stupid}
Hey!  I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but that riff is just like the one in that Pink Floyd song!!
 Thirdrose wrote:

Yes, clearly pumped from Pink FLoyd !!! But without talent.

 

I hate those kind of thiefs.



 
100% Agreed!!!
No respect for such low class stealing. 
Why do I hear Pink Floyd here in this song? I get it to be inspired by someone, but this is almost 1:1 copying.
I think I prefer the Charlatans U.K. ...hehe
Pips914 wrote:
Please everyone - continue to point out that the riff isn't an original! Your posts are so entertaining, and your disdain is so exhilarating and refreshing! I feel like I haven't read good music criticism until I saw this thread! I am just so glad you all took your valuable time to write such introspective and original posts! I feel like I just read Shakespeare for the first time! I am so excited that I can't stop using exclamation points!.

{#Roflol}

Yes, clearly pumped from Pink FLoyd !!! But without talent.

 

I hate those kind of thiefs.


Funny to ask if someone else hears the Pink Floyd riff in this song. It's unavoidable…
 Graham_Milner wrote:
Funny that david Gilmore got a mention.... I hear a pink floyd influence in the instrumental lick....... Almost a copy.

 
..... Fearless ... On the Meddle album. 
Hey, anyone else hear the riff from the Dandy Warhols in there?
Funny that david Gilmore got a mention.... I hear a pink floyd influence in the instrumental lick....... Almost a copy.
a first listen, thought it was Porcupine tree for a moment!      :)  
good tune, brilliantly followed today by David Gilmour's "Fat Old Sun"  -  Cheers!
 Steely_D wrote:

Then we discard "Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" and "Baba O'Reilly" because they liberally lift Sweet Jane.

 
Funny... I never sensed a connection between those two songs and Sweet Jane.
Deeply unpleasant. They are obviously Floyd fans, but without the necessary talent.
                      Aye! Here Comes A Soul Saver
                       Can you feel it when it's right?
 secretsauce wrote:
I agree with Bill.   "It's a good riff and it can hold up more than one song."
I.e. a song should not be 'savaged' just because it borrows a riff, if that riff works well in the new context.

Nevertheless, I would hope that The Charlatans give credit where credit is due.
 
Then we discard "Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" and "Baba O'Reilly" because they liberally lift Sweet Jane.
Always kills me how they use the riff from Floyd's Fearless in this tune....it works....but this is clearly not one of their best tunes.
Hey I know that riff! {#Roflol}
But no problem.. I like when a song quotes other music/inspiration.
 Pips914 wrote:
Please everyone - continue to point out that the riff isn't an original! Your posts are so entertaining, and your disdain is so exhilarating and refreshing! I feel like I haven't read good music criticism until I saw this thread! I am just so glad you all took your valuable time to write such introspective and original posts! I feel like I just read Shakespeare for the first time! I am so excited that I can't stop using exclamation points!
 
Needs to be moved up again.
 LizK wrote:
"You'll Never Walk Alone" commemorates 96 fans who were crushed against a barrier April 15, 1989. 

 
It's not true. "You'll never walk alone" was composed in 1945 for a Broadway musical called "Carousel".
"You'll Never Walk Alone" commemorates 96 fans who were crushed against a barrier April 15, 1989. 
The riff is the same as in Pink Floyd - Fearless
I agree with Bill.   "It's a good riff and it can hold up more than one song."
I.e. a song should not be 'savaged' just because it borrows a riff, if that riff works well in the new context.

Nevertheless, I would hope that The Charlatans give credit where credit is due.

 pianocomposer wrote:
Yeah, I recognize the Floyd riff, but the song is good. So who cares? I have no idea why such a good song gets such low ratings. I give it a 7.
 
Agreed. That Pink Floyd song has an excerpt of Rodgers and Hammerstein's "You'll Never Walk Alone", sung by Liverpool Football Club's supporters at a match.  Should we knock Floyd and the LFC fans for riffing on Rodgers and Hammerstein? 
Pink what?  Weren't they the ones with the guy who played a single note all the time on stage and wasn't housetrained or something?

 nalle wrote:
Rating 4.8 !? You must be kidding, I must give it something lika a 7, someone mind? 
 
Well done.

 pianocomposer wrote:
Yeah, I recognize the Floyd riff, but the song is good. So who cares? I have no idea why such a good song gets such low ratings. I give it a 7.

 

Thanks!
Rating 4.8 !? You must be kidding, I must give it something lika a 7, someone mind? 
Yeah, I recognize the Floyd riff, but the song is good. So who cares? I have no idea why such a good song gets such low ratings. I give it a 7.

Ditto! (Como ya se ha dicho ;-)) {#Sunny}

 

They are the "Charlatans" after all {#Cool}


 LongGoneDaddy wrote:
"imitation is the greatest form of flattery"

  Maybe so, but imitation shows lack of originality and talent with regard to this tune.


As far as I can tell, Floyd just sampled a crowd singing the Rodger and Hammerstein tune "You'll Never Walk Alone" at a football game for their song Fearless. The guitar riff, which plays under the fans singing the tune, doesn't seem to appear anywhere within the showtune. So it looks like Floyd came up with that themselves. Whether or not you think this band is paying tribute to Floyd or ripping them off depends on your perspective I guess.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
If I was a punk looking to piss people off, I'd rip off Pink Floyd's most famous riff too. Job well done, boys!
 
If you could follow up with the riff from "Another Brick in the Wall" and work the baseline from "Money" in there somehow I bet you could make a few heads literally explode . . . {#Wink}
"imitation is the greatest form of flattery"

 Pips914 wrote:
Please everyone - continue to point out that the riff isn't an original! Your posts are so entertaining, and your disdain is so exhilarating and refreshing! I feel like I haven't read good music criticism until I saw this thread! I am just so glad you all took your valuable time to write such introspective and original posts! I feel like I just read Shakespeare for the first time! I am so excited that I can't stop using exclamation points!
 
I'm sorry, but I wrote that riff and I take these things very personally.  Cheers.  — R. Waters

I think that borrowing from artists is like giving props to them. It;s done in so many songs, and I think it's cool, like a little inside joke.
 Pips914 wrote:
Please everyone - continue to point out that the riff isn't an original! Your posts are so entertaining, and your disdain is so exhilarating and refreshing! I feel like I haven't read good music criticism until I saw this thread! I am just so glad you all took your valuable time to write such introspective and original posts! I feel like I just read Shakespeare for the first time! I am so excited that I can't stop using exclamation points!
 

howseabout I just bump your post instead!!!! How do ya like THEM apples! {#Wink}
 oilydwarf wrote:
Great band!  Who gives a monkeys if they are paying their respect to Floyd!
 
That's what Bill said too. {#Eek} Guess I should stop complaining about the Dandy Warhols.