Thievery Corporation — The Richest Man in Babylon
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There is no quidance in your kingdom
Your wicked walk in Babylon
There is no wisdom to your freedom
The richest man in babylon
Your beggars sleep outside your doorway
Your prophets leave to wonder on
You fall asleep at night with worry
The saddest man in Babylon
The wicked stench of exploitation
Hangs in the air and fingers on
Beneath the praise and admiration
The weakest man in Babylon
There is no hope left in your kingdom
Your servants have burned all their songs
Nobody here remembers freedom
The richest man in Babylon
Your wicked walk in Babylon
There is no wisdom to your freedom
The richest man in babylon
Your beggars sleep outside your doorway
Your prophets leave to wonder on
You fall asleep at night with worry
The saddest man in Babylon
The wicked stench of exploitation
Hangs in the air and fingers on
Beneath the praise and admiration
The weakest man in Babylon
There is no hope left in your kingdom
Your servants have burned all their songs
Nobody here remembers freedom
The richest man in Babylon
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heard this on RP many years ago, bought this record and a couple other of theirs.
thanks again Bill!!
thanks again Bill!!
Jelani wrote:
And you, the dumbest, period.
WHY, just WHY do we feel the need to get political on this form of escape from it all?? I don't understand the mind set of people like this! I listen top RP to get away from life for a few minutes. PLEASE stop the BS on politics! We get it rammed in our ears 24/7, we don't need it on here!
And you, the dumbest, period.
WHY, just WHY do we feel the need to get political on this form of escape from it all?? I don't understand the mind set of people like this! I listen top RP to get away from life for a few minutes. PLEASE stop the BS on politics! We get it rammed in our ears 24/7, we don't need it on here!
DocStrangelove wrote:
And you, the dumbest, period.
trump
the dumbest
rich man
in
babylon
And you, the dumbest, period.
run4more wrote:
Actually, at this point the congregation should (and many are) saying "Um, wait a minute."
Actually, at this point the congregation should (and many are) saying "Um, wait a minute."
Got totally into TC years ago on a restaurant patio on the Plaza de la Merced in Malaga where Picasso was born. The waiter use to spin their CDs all the time and I spent 3 days eating there a lot, enjoying the vibe. TC always takes me back to that time and place,...and what I would give to see them live.
chugachskier wrote:
You Lucky Duck! I wish I was there!
Fantastic live performance at the Wilma Theatre in Missoula, MT 2016. They really pull it off.
You Lucky Duck! I wish I was there!
Fantastic live performance at the Wilma Theatre in Missoula, MT 2016. They really pull it off.
nice 
Saw them at the 9:30 Club in D.C. when I still lived in NoVa. They put on an excellent show.
S-curvy wrote:
Didn't know they actually tour. How do they pull off a show, what with all the loops & samples that they thieve? Are there actual musicians who sing and/or play instruments? (yeah, I know that's prolly a rookie question, but after Vanilla Ice, I'm a cynic).
They actually play instruments considerably more than they "thieve".
Didn't know they actually tour. How do they pull off a show, what with all the loops & samples that they thieve? Are there actual musicians who sing and/or play instruments? (yeah, I know that's prolly a rookie question, but after Vanilla Ice, I'm a cynic).
They actually play instruments considerably more than they "thieve".
kind of sounds like Cassandra Wilson on vocals
penn07 wrote:
TC are a serious and talented band. UB40 gave us a couple of decent singles followed by 2 decades of shit covers.
Very much like UB40. Great vibe.
TC are a serious and talented band. UB40 gave us a couple of decent singles followed by 2 decades of shit covers.
Very much like UB40. Great vibe.
ExploitingChaos wrote:
1000
101 - 111
1000
101 - 111
rdo wrote:
There are more people who whine about people like me who comment than there are people who comment. Don't be a whiner "all not knowing one"
"Don't be a whinner" lmfao
"All knowing one!" lmfao even more.
Just scroll through your comments on here lol you must be talking to a verbal mirror.
There are more people who whine about people like me who comment than there are people who comment. Don't be a whiner "all not knowing one"
"Don't be a whinner" lmfao
"All knowing one!" lmfao even more.
Just scroll through your comments on here lol you must be talking to a verbal mirror.
"See, divided we stand and together we fall". Reverse lyric to Pink Floyd's Hey you? "Together we stand, divided we fall"
trump
the dumbest
rich man
in
babylon
bn6 wrote:
I finally saw them in Madison, WI last fall. Worth the wait.
Lucky enough to see them in Paris last week - fantastic! If you get a chance, go.
I finally saw them in Madison, WI last fall. Worth the wait.
S-curvy wrote:
They play shows with numerous live musicians, often more than five or six.
Didn't know they actually tour. How do they pull off a show, what with all the loops & samples that they thieve? Are there actual musicians who sing and/or play instruments? (yeah, I know that's prolly a rookie question, but after Vanilla Ice, I'm a cynic).
They play shows with numerous live musicians, often more than five or six.
bn6 wrote:
Didn't know they actually tour. How do they pull off a show, what with all the loops & samples that they thieve? Are there actual musicians who sing and/or play instruments? (yeah, I know that's prolly a rookie question, but after Vanilla Ice, I'm a cynic).
Lucky enough to see them in Paris last week - fantastic! If you get a chance, go.
Didn't know they actually tour. How do they pull off a show, what with all the loops & samples that they thieve? Are there actual musicians who sing and/or play instruments? (yeah, I know that's prolly a rookie question, but after Vanilla Ice, I'm a cynic).
Fantastic book too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Richest_Man_in_Babylon_%28book%29
Very good!
Lucky enough to see them in Paris last week - fantastic! If you get a chance, go.
https://www.villageofbabylonny.gov/
Today is 11/09/16. This came in at a moment when I really needed It. Thank you bill.
Babylon serie.. Nice!
TC doling out chill pills for all 
Outstanding according the year of release, now it's a Classic
Segue wrote:
A back-to-back rerun by RP.
Good antidote to "Money For Nothing." Breathe ...
A back-to-back rerun by RP.
Good antidote to "Money For Nothing." Breathe ...
Great live band - saw them at Summerfest for FREE twice!!!
Nice!
6>7. If this keeps up I'll be really digging it.
"Your beggars sleep outside your doorway" - that reminds me of a recent news story that sums up the Thatcherite zeitgeist in the UK.
rdo wrote:
kcar...please...for the love of god...get a fucking life and quit following me
Ditto.
From my long and painful experience on Usenet, I can say for sure that when messages on a forum are simply personal duels of no interest to any bystanders, they serve no useful purpose to either duellist or bystander, and should be knocked on the head. The difference between web fora and Usenet being that you can use killfiles in the latter.
kcar...please...for the love of god...get a fucking life and quit following me
Ditto.
From my long and painful experience on Usenet, I can say for sure that when messages on a forum are simply personal duels of no interest to any bystanders, they serve no useful purpose to either duellist or bystander, and should be knocked on the head. The difference between web fora and Usenet being that you can use killfiles in the latter.
I think I'm a "right thinking" person and I really enjoy Thievery Corp's music. 
fredriley wrote:
Nope. See the Thievery Corporation website for videos and songs. TC are very much into danceable left-wing agitprop, so aren't for Right-thinking people.
fredriley wrote:Nope. See the Thievery Corporation website for videos and songs. TC are very much into danceable left-wing agitprop, so aren't for Right-thinking people.
oh yeah still digging this..
You people are so petty ... and tiny.
I like it too 
Peter_Bradshaw wrote:...... this is so very good 8 >>>>>>> 9
Peter_Bradshaw wrote:...... this is so very good 8 >>>>>>> 9...... this is so very good 8 >>>>>>> 9NEXT 10!
Stratocaster wrote:
There are more people who whine about people like me who comment than there are people who comment. Don't be a whiner "all not knowing one"
rdo, I just now saw your comment to me below. Wow. To tear into me like that over one small comment really says a lot more about you than it does about me.
The fact that you are "unfamiliar" with my participation means nothing to me. I am a financial contributor to RP, and do participate in the comments from time to time. Guess you just haven't seen them, oh all-knowing one.
Suggesting I "buzz off"? Well, you sure told me, big fella
Thanks for the suggestion, but you can GFY (and that doesn't mean "god forgives you").
And BTW, the reason I came here just now was because I love Thievery Corporation's music and wanted to read the most recent comments on the song from like-minded people. Doesn't look like you are one of those people.
The fact that you are "unfamiliar" with my participation means nothing to me. I am a financial contributor to RP, and do participate in the comments from time to time. Guess you just haven't seen them, oh all-knowing one.
Suggesting I "buzz off"? Well, you sure told me, big fella
Thanks for the suggestion, but you can GFY (and that doesn't mean "god forgives you").And BTW, the reason I came here just now was because I love Thievery Corporation's music and wanted to read the most recent comments on the song from like-minded people. Doesn't look like you are one of those people.
There are more people who whine about people like me who comment than there are people who comment. Don't be a whiner "all not knowing one"
rdo, I just now saw your comment to me below. Wow. To tear into me like that over one small comment really says a lot more about you than it does about me.
The fact that you are "unfamiliar" with my participation means nothing to me. I am a financial contributor to RP, and do participate in the comments from time to time. Guess you just haven't seen them, oh all-knowing one.
Suggesting I "buzz off"? Well, you sure told me, big fella Thanks for the suggestion, but you can GFY (and that doesn't mean "god forgives you").
And BTW, the reason I came here just now was because I love Thievery Corporation's music and wanted to read the most recent comments on the song from like-minded people. Doesn't look like you are one of those people.
The fact that you are "unfamiliar" with my participation means nothing to me. I am a financial contributor to RP, and do participate in the comments from time to time. Guess you just haven't seen them, oh all-knowing one.
Suggesting I "buzz off"? Well, you sure told me, big fella
Thanks for the suggestion, but you can GFY (and that doesn't mean "god forgives you").And BTW, the reason I came here just now was because I love Thievery Corporation's music and wanted to read the most recent comments on the song from like-minded people. Doesn't look like you are one of those people.
kcar wrote:
Wouldn't it depend on which goods and services people are consuming and going to be paying taxes on, as well as the tax rates? If for instance you're heavily taxing consumption of food and lightly taxing patio furniture or garden supplies, that consumption tax likely won't be progressive. The poor are poor, rdo, but they still consume--so I don't see how you can make the claim that "If you are poor, you would not pay taxes at all."
As far as I can tell from Robert Costanza's review of "Luxury Fever" on Amazon, Robert Frank would not tax savings at all and would not specify which types of consumption fall into the "luxury" category--meaning apparently that the consumption tax would be a flat tax since it would not impose different rates on different types of goods. I don't have much knowledge about this matter but I believe European nations have something like this in the form of the value-added tax (VAT) which in the post-WWII era has deterred some private consumption and promoted private savings and investment in public goods and services.
But the US economy is built on private consumption; switching away from that would be painful. And as Byronape (and Paul Krugman, Brad DeLong and yes even Larry Summers in unguarded moments) points out, our economy is still in such a lowered state that it needs more fiscal stimulus to promote private consumption. As for a revamped tax code taxing consumption and exempting various types of savings, rdo, I invite you to tax a good look at the Federal 1040 instruction booklet the next time you do your income taxes. That rat warren of rules, exceptions, allowances, exemptions, etc. is a political document, the product of lobbying by all sorts of groups. An ideal tax code based on Frank's best ideas would get revamped and reshaped to make sure that the rich and powerful wound up paying less in the end. Even if you did wind up with acceptable policy, would you have the same amount of tax revenue to pay for government goods and services?
"I can't spell it all out here."
Try. Seriously. You want serious, substantive discussion on RP boards? STEP UP, 'CAUSE IT'S YOUR TURN.
That "I can't spell it all out here" reminds me of a Georgetown Law graduate living nearby who would pronounce idiotic opinions on legal matters and then try to cover his ass by concluding "It would take too long to explain." Seeing him use that line repeatedly made me LMAO. It was a real sign of laziness and a tacit admission that he didn't know what he was talking about. Not a good thing for someone looking to get paid for winning arguments based on logic and legal precedence.
Summarize Robert Frank's "Luxury Fever" if you want. That'd be a good start. The Internet actually has enough room for your thoughts, rdo.
"It is more of a poke at socialism, to be sure. Yes, it implies sexual license. You need not investigate far to know this is a central doctrine of most socialism."
Wait...what? I call bullshit.
"Students are screwed out of their money. I know I was."
The past is slowly brought into the light of day...You might as well tell us what you studied; I'm assuming you're referring to a grad school program or something like a JD.
"To the hundreds of passive participants out there who feel they need to make some dumb interuption every time the conversation turns political, Please hold back that ugre and instead say something original of your own."
Rather than CRAPPING on Stratocaster and others who may want to just hang out and have some fun on these boards, why not draw them into your attempts to start up more involved conversations, rdo? Or just ignore the comments that don't interest you? I thought Slippery's comment (the one that started you off here) made good points. He was hardly wallowing in "isms."
You really don't have to be a bomb-throwing jerk to get RPers to talk intelligently about stuff, buddy.
kcar...please...for the love of god...get a fucking life and quit following me
Wouldn't it depend on which goods and services people are consuming and going to be paying taxes on, as well as the tax rates? If for instance you're heavily taxing consumption of food and lightly taxing patio furniture or garden supplies, that consumption tax likely won't be progressive. The poor are poor, rdo, but they still consume--so I don't see how you can make the claim that "If you are poor, you would not pay taxes at all."
As far as I can tell from Robert Costanza's review of "Luxury Fever" on Amazon, Robert Frank would not tax savings at all and would not specify which types of consumption fall into the "luxury" category--meaning apparently that the consumption tax would be a flat tax since it would not impose different rates on different types of goods. I don't have much knowledge about this matter but I believe European nations have something like this in the form of the value-added tax (VAT) which in the post-WWII era has deterred some private consumption and promoted private savings and investment in public goods and services.
But the US economy is built on private consumption; switching away from that would be painful. And as Byronape (and Paul Krugman, Brad DeLong and yes even Larry Summers in unguarded moments) points out, our economy is still in such a lowered state that it needs more fiscal stimulus to promote private consumption. As for a revamped tax code taxing consumption and exempting various types of savings, rdo, I invite you to tax a good look at the Federal 1040 instruction booklet the next time you do your income taxes. That rat warren of rules, exceptions, allowances, exemptions, etc. is a political document, the product of lobbying by all sorts of groups. An ideal tax code based on Frank's best ideas would get revamped and reshaped to make sure that the rich and powerful wound up paying less in the end. Even if you did wind up with acceptable policy, would you have the same amount of tax revenue to pay for government goods and services?
"I can't spell it all out here."
Try. Seriously. You want serious, substantive discussion on RP boards? STEP UP, 'CAUSE IT'S YOUR TURN.
That "I can't spell it all out here" reminds me of a Georgetown Law graduate living nearby who would pronounce idiotic opinions on legal matters and then try to cover his ass by concluding "It would take too long to explain." Seeing him use that line repeatedly made me LMAO. It was a real sign of laziness and a tacit admission that he didn't know what he was talking about. Not a good thing for someone looking to get paid for winning arguments based on logic and legal precedence.
Summarize Robert Frank's "Luxury Fever" if you want. That'd be a good start. The Internet actually has enough room for your thoughts, rdo.
"It is more of a poke at socialism, to be sure. Yes, it implies sexual license. You need not investigate far to know this is a central doctrine of most socialism."
Wait...what? I call bullshit.
"Students are screwed out of their money. I know I was."
The past is slowly brought into the light of day...You might as well tell us what you studied; I'm assuming you're referring to a grad school program or something like a JD.
"To the hundreds of passive participants out there who feel they need to make some dumb interuption every time the conversation turns political, Please hold back that ugre and instead say something original of your own."
Rather than CRAPPING on Stratocaster and others who may want to just hang out and have some fun on these boards, why not draw them into your attempts to start up more involved conversations, rdo? Or just ignore the comments that don't interest you? I thought Slippery's comment (the one that started you off here) made good points. He was hardly wallowing in "isms."
You really don't have to be a bomb-throwing jerk to get RPers to talk intelligently about stuff, buddy.
kcar...please...for the love of god...get a fucking life and quit following me
I'd like to listen, per chance to comment, but the play button (Safari Version 6.0.5 (7536.30.1)) doesn't work and the iTunes Radio entry keeps rebuffing.
It's like being in a casino with no money.
It's like being in a casino with no money.
nipplering wrote:
Is the alternative being a close-minded mental slave like yourself?
No, there are many more alternatives. It used to be that only a handful of programmers and statisticians saw life's choices as being binary. Good tune.
Is the alternative being a close-minded mental slave like yourself?
No, there are many more alternatives. It used to be that only a handful of programmers and statisticians saw life's choices as being binary. Good tune.
rdo wrote:
Smoke a joint? Why? So I can become and idiot like you?
Is the alternative being a close-minded mental slave like yourself?
Smoke a joint? Why? So I can become and idiot like you?
Is the alternative being a close-minded mental slave like yourself?
shellbella wrote:
Do it. Their show at Atlanta's Fabulous Fox was a wild two-hour dance party.
I really want to see this band live.....
Do it. Their show at Atlanta's Fabulous Fox was a wild two-hour dance party.
mikecole wrote:
Smoke a joint? Why? So I can become and idiot like you?
Geez..... Give that person calm-me-down pills or something. Smoke a jay or something. Relax! Enjoy. Breathe.
Big Love
Big Love
Smoke a joint? Why? So I can become and idiot like you?
Live in Austin At ACL ,be there
I really want to see this band live.....
Geez..... Give that person calm-me-down pills or something. Smoke a jay or something. Relax! Enjoy. Breathe.
Big Love
Big Love
Stratocaster wrote:
Do lyrics count? Did it occur to you that the discussion related to the song lyrics? Did you, by chance, notice the band's name?
I am sick and tired of all these jerks who rarely have anything else to say other than "shut up". I am unfamiliar with anything you, Stratocaster, have ever said about this song or any other song. Which means, that you are a passive participant at best, and unless you actually have anything to say about the song, then I suggest you buzz off.
If you want to talk about the song, what is stopping you? The are literally thousands upon thousands of postings that say nothing at all about the song other than a brief approval or disapproval, or pictures of the performers. Hardly anyone complains. So why disrupt real comments taking place on a comment board? Do you go to casinos and complain when you see gambling? To the hundreds of passive participants out there who feel they need to make some dumb interuption every time the conversation turns political, Please hold back that ugre and instead say something original of your own.
Huh?
Aren't we talking about the song?
I really like it, gave it an 8.
Aren't we talking about the song?
I really like it, gave it an 8.
Do lyrics count? Did it occur to you that the discussion related to the song lyrics? Did you, by chance, notice the band's name?
I am sick and tired of all these jerks who rarely have anything else to say other than "shut up". I am unfamiliar with anything you, Stratocaster, have ever said about this song or any other song. Which means, that you are a passive participant at best, and unless you actually have anything to say about the song, then I suggest you buzz off.
If you want to talk about the song, what is stopping you? The are literally thousands upon thousands of postings that say nothing at all about the song other than a brief approval or disapproval, or pictures of the performers. Hardly anyone complains. So why disrupt real comments taking place on a comment board? Do you go to casinos and complain when you see gambling? To the hundreds of passive participants out there who feel they need to make some dumb interuption every time the conversation turns political, Please hold back that ugre and instead say something original of your own.
Huh?
Aren't we talking about the song?
I really like it, gave it an 8.
Aren't we talking about the song?
I really like it, gave it an 8.
Byronape wrote:
Or, maybe the "isms" you hate so much represent a valid form of thought that differers from their own. To assume that they are used by "profs looking to screw their students" not only implies that any person working in higher education cares less about the subject they are teaching, or teaching in general, than they do about their own interests. Coming from a family full of teachers, I find this idea horribly offensive. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets into education to make money. For their level of education (which they have to pay for out of pocket), they are highly underpaid. But maybe you mean "screw" as a verb, as in to sleep with...
The consumption tax would definitely be progressive. You are a quick one to jump to conclusions. If you are poor, you would not pay taxes at all. I can't spell it all out here. Robert H. Frank does a fine job in "Luxury Fever". I think you are looking for arguments where we don't really have any. I like the fact that you wrote this, though. As for the "screw" remark...it does have a double meaning, but not quite in the sense that you make it out to be. It is more of a poke at socialism, to be sure. Yes, it implies sexual license. You need not investigate far to know this is a central doctrine of most socialism. I think any teacher advocating a violent socialist revolution is not teaching at all, but demagoguing. Big difference. It's a poke at capitalism too. Students are screwed out of their money. I know I was. I like teachers though. Give me a break. Enough. (BTW...I have clipped off most of your reply in the interest of saving page space only, not out of disrespect for your argument).
Or, maybe the "isms" you hate so much represent a valid form of thought that differers from their own. To assume that they are used by "profs looking to screw their students" not only implies that any person working in higher education cares less about the subject they are teaching, or teaching in general, than they do about their own interests. Coming from a family full of teachers, I find this idea horribly offensive. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets into education to make money. For their level of education (which they have to pay for out of pocket), they are highly underpaid. But maybe you mean "screw" as a verb, as in to sleep with...
The consumption tax would definitely be progressive. You are a quick one to jump to conclusions. If you are poor, you would not pay taxes at all. I can't spell it all out here. Robert H. Frank does a fine job in "Luxury Fever". I think you are looking for arguments where we don't really have any. I like the fact that you wrote this, though. As for the "screw" remark...it does have a double meaning, but not quite in the sense that you make it out to be. It is more of a poke at socialism, to be sure. Yes, it implies sexual license. You need not investigate far to know this is a central doctrine of most socialism. I think any teacher advocating a violent socialist revolution is not teaching at all, but demagoguing. Big difference. It's a poke at capitalism too. Students are screwed out of their money. I know I was. I like teachers though. Give me a break. Enough. (BTW...I have clipped off most of your reply in the interest of saving page space only, not out of disrespect for your argument).
Byronape wrote:
Or, maybe the "isms" you hate so much represent a valid form of thought that differers from their own. To assume that they are used by "profs looking to screw their students" not only implies that any person working in higher education cares less about the subject they are teaching, or teaching in general, than they do about their own interests. Coming from a family full of teachers, I find this idea horribly offensive. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets into education to make money. For their level of education (which they have to pay for out of pocket), they are highly underpaid. But maybe you mean "screw" as a verb, as in to sleep with...
As for a consumption tax, of course you think it's a good thing. It's a tax that does not ever touch any kind of savings, investments, or real estate purchases unless sold at a profit. Considering that only the wealthy have the disposable income for investments or real estate speculative purchases, this allows them to get even more wealthy free of any additional tax. However, the poor, or even middle class, have to struggle to save and would end up paying more for products and services. I don't know about you, but I know a lot of people that can't afford to have their grocery bill go up or to pay more for gas than they already do.
Sure, a consumption tax CAN be good for an economy. However, a consumption tax, in theory, would increase saving and lower spending. However, in an economy as crippled as ours, spending should be encouraged to drive up demand. Once demand goes up, so will employment. Saving is a great way to assure long term fiscal viability, but what about those that cannot afford to save? Right now, a large portion of the population spends all of their income on a week by week basis.
The only people that can afford any additional tax right now are the wealthy and large corporations that have been dodging paying their fair share anyway. As for the argument that taxing "the job creators" unfairly, consider that the only impact would be the record profits that many of these companies are bringing in currently. I'm SO sorry if I'd rather have an extra $20 bucks in my pocket than give some company $20 million in tax brakes that will filter down to the investors who don't need the money nearly as bad as I do.
Try leaving DC and living among real people for a while and see for yourself what is happening.
And the congregation said... "Amen!"
Or, maybe the "isms" you hate so much represent a valid form of thought that differers from their own. To assume that they are used by "profs looking to screw their students" not only implies that any person working in higher education cares less about the subject they are teaching, or teaching in general, than they do about their own interests. Coming from a family full of teachers, I find this idea horribly offensive. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets into education to make money. For their level of education (which they have to pay for out of pocket), they are highly underpaid. But maybe you mean "screw" as a verb, as in to sleep with...
As for a consumption tax, of course you think it's a good thing. It's a tax that does not ever touch any kind of savings, investments, or real estate purchases unless sold at a profit. Considering that only the wealthy have the disposable income for investments or real estate speculative purchases, this allows them to get even more wealthy free of any additional tax. However, the poor, or even middle class, have to struggle to save and would end up paying more for products and services. I don't know about you, but I know a lot of people that can't afford to have their grocery bill go up or to pay more for gas than they already do.
Sure, a consumption tax CAN be good for an economy. However, a consumption tax, in theory, would increase saving and lower spending. However, in an economy as crippled as ours, spending should be encouraged to drive up demand. Once demand goes up, so will employment. Saving is a great way to assure long term fiscal viability, but what about those that cannot afford to save? Right now, a large portion of the population spends all of their income on a week by week basis.
The only people that can afford any additional tax right now are the wealthy and large corporations that have been dodging paying their fair share anyway. As for the argument that taxing "the job creators" unfairly, consider that the only impact would be the record profits that many of these companies are bringing in currently. I'm SO sorry if I'd rather have an extra $20 bucks in my pocket than give some company $20 million in tax brakes that will filter down to the investors who don't need the money nearly as bad as I do.
Try leaving DC and living among real people for a while and see for yourself what is happening.
And the congregation said... "Amen!"
rdo wrote:
Try getting off the isms, I know they are addictive for young turks and profs looking to screw their students, but the sooner you free yourself from that the better.
Now, I do think a consumption tax is a good thing.
Or, maybe the "isms" you hate so much represent a valid form of thought that differers from their own. To assume that they are used by "profs looking to screw their students" not only implies that any person working in higher education cares less about the subject they are teaching, or teaching in general, than they do about their own interests. Coming from a family full of teachers, I find this idea horribly offensive. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets into education to make money. For their level of education (which they have to pay for out of pocket), they are highly underpaid. But maybe you mean "screw" as a verb, as in to sleep with...
As for a consumption tax, of course you think it's a good thing. It's a tax that does not ever touch any kind of savings, investments, or real estate purchases unless sold at a profit. Considering that only the wealthy have the disposable income for investments or real estate speculative purchases, this allows them to get even more wealthy free of any additional tax. However, the poor, or even middle class, have to struggle to save and would end up paying more for products and services. I don't know about you, but I know a lot of people that can't afford to have their grocery bill go up or to pay more for gas than they already do.
Sure, a consumption tax CAN be good for an economy. However, a consumption tax, in theory, would increase saving and lower spending. However, in an economy as crippled as ours, spending should be encouraged to drive up demand. Once demand goes up, so will employment. Saving is a great way to assure long term fiscal viability, but what about those that cannot afford to save? Right now, a large portion of the population spends all of their income on a week by week basis.
The only people that can afford any additional tax right now are the wealthy and large corporations that have been dodging paying their fair share anyway. As for the argument that taxing "the job creators" unfairly, consider that the only impact would be the record profits that many of these companies are bringing in currently. I'm SO sorry if I'd rather have an extra $20 bucks in my pocket than give some company $20 million in tax brakes that will filter down to the investors who don't need the money nearly as bad as I do.
Try leaving DC and living among real people for a while and see for yourself what is happening.
Try getting off the isms, I know they are addictive for young turks and profs looking to screw their students, but the sooner you free yourself from that the better.
Now, I do think a consumption tax is a good thing.
Or, maybe the "isms" you hate so much represent a valid form of thought that differers from their own. To assume that they are used by "profs looking to screw their students" not only implies that any person working in higher education cares less about the subject they are teaching, or teaching in general, than they do about their own interests. Coming from a family full of teachers, I find this idea horribly offensive. No one, and I mean NO ONE, gets into education to make money. For their level of education (which they have to pay for out of pocket), they are highly underpaid. But maybe you mean "screw" as a verb, as in to sleep with...
As for a consumption tax, of course you think it's a good thing. It's a tax that does not ever touch any kind of savings, investments, or real estate purchases unless sold at a profit. Considering that only the wealthy have the disposable income for investments or real estate speculative purchases, this allows them to get even more wealthy free of any additional tax. However, the poor, or even middle class, have to struggle to save and would end up paying more for products and services. I don't know about you, but I know a lot of people that can't afford to have their grocery bill go up or to pay more for gas than they already do.
Sure, a consumption tax CAN be good for an economy. However, a consumption tax, in theory, would increase saving and lower spending. However, in an economy as crippled as ours, spending should be encouraged to drive up demand. Once demand goes up, so will employment. Saving is a great way to assure long term fiscal viability, but what about those that cannot afford to save? Right now, a large portion of the population spends all of their income on a week by week basis.
The only people that can afford any additional tax right now are the wealthy and large corporations that have been dodging paying their fair share anyway. As for the argument that taxing "the job creators" unfairly, consider that the only impact would be the record profits that many of these companies are bringing in currently. I'm SO sorry if I'd rather have an extra $20 bucks in my pocket than give some company $20 million in tax brakes that will filter down to the investors who don't need the money nearly as bad as I do.
Try leaving DC and living among real people for a while and see for yourself what is happening.
dude that was cruil r u in acedemia or somting ?
rdo wrote:
Try getting off the isms, I know they are addictive for young turks and profs looking to screw their students, but the sooner you free yourself from that the better.
Now, I do think a consumption tax is a good thing.
rdo wrote:
Try getting off the isms, I know they are addictive for young turks and profs looking to screw their students, but the sooner you free yourself from that the better.
Now, I do think a consumption tax is a good thing.
i don't know - is the target aspherical or is it my computer
fredriley wrote:
Nope. See the Thievery Corporation website for videos and songs. TC are very much into danceable left-wing agitprop, so aren't for Right-thinking people.
Nope. See the Thievery Corporation website for videos and songs. TC are very much into danceable left-wing agitprop, so aren't for Right-thinking people.
Geez, dunno Fred, were the tune a parody it would be humorous. Otherwise, IMHO, it is pretty derivative and not really doing anything all that interesting. I was always curious why artists whose primary message was leftie politics were often fairly conservative in their approach to their medium. I remember reading a left-wing critic explain that pushing the edges of the language of one's medium required a connoisseur's mentality and was as such essentially bourgeois. This, of course, was a very naughty thing as far as the writer was concerned. Could explain why Soviet Constructivism was such derivative and conservative a movement. As I said, dunno, but it is interesting. I'll check out the site, thanks.
slippery wrote:
Try getting off the isms, I know they are addictive for young turks and profs looking to screw their students, but the sooner you free yourself from that the better.
Now, I do think a consumption tax is a good thing.
The lyrics is just astonishing. Pinpoints capitalisms first and foremost design flaw, to which we can address several of our civilizations biggest problems: greed, overconsumption, feelings of inadequacy and spiritual emptiness, along with a bunch of environmental issues.
I just wish I could think of another economical system that actually works in real life.
Oh, almost forgot - this track also got mad grooves!
I just wish I could think of another economical system that actually works in real life.
Oh, almost forgot - this track also got mad grooves!
Try getting off the isms, I know they are addictive for young turks and profs looking to screw their students, but the sooner you free yourself from that the better.
Now, I do think a consumption tax is a good thing.
First Peter Tosh - Mystery Babylon, and now this.
Babylon is popular nowadays =)
Babylon is popular nowadays =)
bitbanger wrote:
Nope. See the Thievery Corporation website for videos and songs. TC are very much into danceable left-wing agitprop, so aren't for Right-thinking people.
Don't really know this band. Is this tune a parody?
Nope. See the Thievery Corporation website for videos and songs. TC are very much into danceable left-wing agitprop, so aren't for Right-thinking people.
Don't really know this band. Is this tune a parody?
4 → 6
Poacher wrote:
With yourself?
Ha, ha , ha!!! very good, and the wright comment!!
With yourself?
Ha, ha , ha!!! very good, and the wright comment!!
sounds almost exactly like
i like them both, but...
| Thievery Corporation | The Revolution Solution (Feat Perry Farrell) |
i like them both, but...
Stingray wrote:
No Helgi (Helgi...?) - you are absolutely normal!
I sign every single word, especially the costly underwear
(if it's neither red nor white color).
I would add this to your list, though:
- no square topped trailor-park fingernails with design (urgh!!!)
- blond
- great smile and humor
- great taste
- IQ = 125+
(I bet we just add some female enemies to our portfolio)
Other personal requirements I better keep for myself!
Problem is: such girls do not exist!
Or they have simelar requirements...!
Life is hard!
You cannot possibly be a grown man.
No Helgi (Helgi...?) - you are absolutely normal!
I sign every single word, especially the costly underwear
(if it's neither red nor white color).
I would add this to your list, though:
- no square topped trailor-park fingernails with design (urgh!!!)
- blond
- great smile and humor
- great taste
- IQ = 125+
(I bet we just add some female enemies to our portfolio)
Other personal requirements I better keep for myself!
Problem is: such girls do not exist!
Or they have simelar requirements...!
Life is hard!
You cannot possibly be a grown man.
Stingray wrote:
With yourself?
Reminds me that I should have some sex tonight!
With yourself?
helgigermany wrote:
No Helgi (Helgi...?) - you are absolutely normal!
I sign every single word, especially the costly underwear
(if it's neither red nor white color).
I would add this to your list, though:
- no square topped trailor-park fingernails with design (urgh!!!)
- blond
- great smile and humor
- great taste
- IQ = 125+
(I bet we just add some female enemies to our portfolio)
Other personal requirements I better keep for myself!
Problem is: such girls do not exist!
Or they have simelar requirements...!
Life is hard!
Thievery Corporation certainly belong
to the best "bands" of the new millenium!
INCREDIBLE ALBUM! INCREDIBLE GROOVE!
I can't help it: I think of beautiful girls, long legs,
costly underwear and enough brain to have (real) fun!!!
Am I pervers...?
to the best "bands" of the new millenium!
INCREDIBLE ALBUM! INCREDIBLE GROOVE!
I can't help it: I think of beautiful girls, long legs,
costly underwear and enough brain to have (real) fun!!!
Am I pervers...?
No Helgi (Helgi...?) - you are absolutely normal!
I sign every single word, especially the costly underwear
(if it's neither red nor white color).
I would add this to your list, though:
- no square topped trailor-park fingernails with design (urgh!!!)
- blond
- great smile and humor
- great taste
- IQ = 125+
(I bet we just add some female enemies to our portfolio)
Other personal requirements I better keep for myself!
Problem is: such girls do not exist!
Or they have simelar requirements...!
Life is hard!
Stingray wrote:
You need reminding? What, do you put it in your diary? Best tell Marina to brace herself, then.
Reminds me that I should have some sex tonight!
You need reminding? What, do you put it in your diary? Best tell Marina to brace herself, then.
stephw wrote:
YES YES YES to Level 42!
I swear (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I did not read your post,
before posting mine (actually I never read posts,
before posting mine - after I do - before never!!)
BOYSCOUTS PROMISE!!!!
YES YES YES to Level 42!
I swear (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I did not read your post,
before posting mine (actually I never read posts,
before posting mine - after I do - before never!!)
BOYSCOUTS PROMISE!!!!
YES-YES-YES!
The opposite of Yoni Mitchell feelings...!
Reminds me that I should have some sex tonight!
THIERVERY CORPORATION is COOL!
The opposite of Yoni Mitchell feelings...!
Reminds me that I should have some sex tonight!
THIERVERY CORPORATION is COOL!
billybob123 wrote:
Oh man, speaking of Level 42, I'd love to hear something by those guys. I think they'd fit in pretty well on RP's list, what do you think Bill?
YES YES YES to Level 42!
Oh man, speaking of Level 42, I'd love to hear something by those guys. I think they'd fit in pretty well on RP's list, what do you think Bill?
YES YES YES to Level 42!
Busy band eh!
I have 17 Thievery albums in my collection, top 5 for me!
helgigermany wrote:
Like 90 % of all men.
90%?
I think you're being a bit conservative ;)
Like 90 % of all men.
90%?
I think you're being a bit conservative ;)
Stingray wrote:
You are as normal or pervers like 90 % of all men.
Thievery Corporation certainly belong
to the best "bands" of the new millenium!
INCREDIBLE ALBUM! INCREDIBLE GROOVE!
I can't help it: I think of beautiful girls, long legs,
costly underwear and enough brain to have (real) fun!!!
Am I pervers...?
to the best "bands" of the new millenium!
INCREDIBLE ALBUM! INCREDIBLE GROOVE!
I can't help it: I think of beautiful girls, long legs,
costly underwear and enough brain to have (real) fun!!!
Am I pervers...?
You are as normal or pervers like 90 % of all men.
Thievery Corporation certainly belong
to the best "bands" of the new millenium!
INCREDIBLE ALBUM! INCREDIBLE GROOVE!
I can't help it: I think of beautiful girls, long legs,
costly underwear and enough brain to have (real) fun!!!
Am I pervers...?
to the best "bands" of the new millenium!
INCREDIBLE ALBUM! INCREDIBLE GROOVE!
I can't help it: I think of beautiful girls, long legs,
costly underwear and enough brain to have (real) fun!!!
Am I pervers...?
The lyrics is just astonishing. Pinpoints capitalisms first and foremost design flaw, to which we can address several of our civilizations biggest problems: greed, overconsumption, feelings of inadequacy and spiritual emptiness, along with a bunch of environmental issues.
I just wish I could think of another economical system that actually works in real life.
Oh, almost forgot - this track also got mad grooves!
I just wish I could think of another economical system that actually works in real life.
Oh, almost forgot - this track also got mad grooves!
jedley wrote:
Oh man, speaking of Level 42, I'd love to hear something by those guys. I think they'd fit in pretty well on RP's list, what do you think Bill?
Vocal reminds me of the singer/bassist from Level 42
Oh man, speaking of Level 42, I'd love to hear something by those guys. I think they'd fit in pretty well on RP's list, what do you think Bill?
floydoftherocks wrote:
Hey, Moses led the chosen people through the desert and brought 'em to the only place in the Middle East without oil. Not that I miss Georgie Porgie Puddin' and Pie much, but go figure.
here's to GWB...the only man who couldn't find oil in Texas.. 
great album & LOVE the trombone part on this song..
great album & LOVE the trombone part on this song..
Hey, Moses led the chosen people through the desert and brought 'em to the only place in the Middle East without oil. Not that I miss Georgie Porgie Puddin' and Pie much, but go figure.
Saw Thievery here in Boston several months back - amazing show, can't put it easily to words. They are coming back in October - I'll be there rockin!
When I realized I was rocking in my office chair to the beat, I had to come here and post something good about this song: It's groovy!
floydoftherocks wrote:
Or apparently in Saudi Arabia either.
here's to GWB...the only man who couldn't find oil in Texas..
great album & LOVE the trombone part on this song..
great album & LOVE the trombone part on this song..
Or apparently in Saudi Arabia either.
here's to GWB...the only man who couldn't find oil in Texas..
great album & LOVE the trombone part on this song..
great album & LOVE the trombone part on this song..
Vocal reminds me of the singer/bassist from Level 42
this entire album is classic..
a fully realized whole...not hole...whole.
a fully realized whole...not hole...whole.
oh oh whoa oo
there's no hope left in your kingdom
your servants have burned all their songs
nobody here remembers freedom
the richest man in babylon
whoa oo ho oo
there's no hope left in your kingdom
your servants have burned all their songs
nobody here remembers freedom
the richest man in babylon
whoa oo ho oo
Mari wrote:
Now I can identify them down at the café when a new waiter brings in their own collection 
That's funny, when I was in highschool the café my friends and I went to played this song, along with other Thievery Corp. songs, all the time. Must be a café thing.
George Michael? Oh, guess not.
Keep 'em comin...yeah... This is shrub's theme song.
ScottishWillie wrote:
Good question dissen. Why isn't there any songs by Kruder and Dorfmeister?
I hear them quite often here.
Love nearly everything from the Thievery Corp.; this belongs to the part I don't love.
But I respect the good musical 'work'. 
An utterly well deserved 9.
beelzebubba wrote: 
Groove, baby....
yeah
dissen wrote:
why isn't there any songs by kruder and dorfmeister...? I ask again...
Good question dissen. Why isn't there any songs by Kruder and Dorfmeister?
reminds me a bit of the cardiff reefers...
Haven't heard this one in a while. I like it.
godspeed wrote:
Now I can identify them down at the café when a new waiter brings in their own collection
thanks bill...the more i listen to these guys the more i come to find the more i wanna listen to these guys......ire-man
Me 2 godspeed
Now I can identify them down at the café when a new waiter brings in their own collection
thanks bill...the more i listen to these guys the more i come to find the more i wanna listen to these guys......ire-man
Nice track. Reminds me of indie band John Brown's Body, who also use a lot of horns in their reggae to good effect.
FallOutOfWindow wrote:
Where's my bong?
Where's my bong?
OK, this is one of the few decent TC tracks, but the singing really makes this track. They use that same riddim in just about every track of theirs. What about buying a new drum computer guys?
I love this. I want to move along with and it makes me feel happy. Something good about reggae music sometimes.... I enjoy it. 
Nice to hear live.
solrac wrote:
Likeable tune from a decent album. Mirror Conspiracy is much better, IMO.
funk+chicago=t.c.
Well, they're from D.C. and not much of a funk band. Otherwise, I think you nailed it.
Likeable tune from a decent album. Mirror Conspiracy is much better, IMO.
phil-light wrote:
Good song, but we're hearing it too often. :)
-PL-
Amen! :iamwith:
funk+chicago=t.c.
DavidCarrico wrote:
does this remind anyone else of UB40's Kingston Town in a weird way?
Yeah, I thought for sure this was UB40. It is pretty cool tho. :D/
Good song, but we're hearing it too often. :)
-PL-
or some Medeski, Martin and Wood even
why isn't there any songs by kruder and dorfmeister...? I ask again...
heard this on RP many years ago, bought this record and a couple other of theirs.
thanks again Bill!!
That is why we come here. Thanx RP!