Porcupine Tree — Waiting
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Waiting... to be born again
Wanting... the saddes kind of pain
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away
Nothing... is what I feel
Waiting... for the drugs to make it real
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away
Waiting... to be disciplined
Aching... for your nails across my skin
Waiting for the day when I will crawl...
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away
Wanting... the saddes kind of pain
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away
Nothing... is what I feel
Waiting... for the drugs to make it real
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away
Waiting... to be disciplined
Aching... for your nails across my skin
Waiting for the day when I will crawl...
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away
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EXCELLENT TUNE! ...spooky album cover!
ncollingridge wrote:
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
Porcupine Tree has about the same amount of soul as, say, Pink Floyd or any other prog rock type band (more than some, really.)
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
Porcupine Tree has about the same amount of soul as, say, Pink Floyd or any other prog rock type band (more than some, really.)
I do enjoy a bit of Porc whilst busy working away, helps time fly!
MrsTom wrote:
Saddest?
Wilson can go on about people who fail to Seize the Day and get stuck in meaningless routine.
What's 'saddes pain' when it's at home?
Saddest?
Wilson can go on about people who fail to Seize the Day and get stuck in meaningless routine.
Just scored tix to see Porcupine Tree this September in SF. Can't wait, as I discovered them via RP after they had disbanded (or very close to that same time anyways), and was under the impression I would never get to see them live. The universe had other ideas I guess... 
MrsTom wrote:
Presuming it's saddest, how I'm feeling right now 😪
What's 'saddes pain' when it's at home?
Presuming it's saddest, how I'm feeling right now 😪
Rockit9 wrote:
Had me fooled..... Steven, incidentally, is a big fan of the Beach Boys.
I saw Mr. Wilson many years ago when I was a young teen. It was my first concert I had ever been to. My older sister bought tickets & on the night of the concert she told me there was a delay. She told me to go rest in bed until it was time to go. An hour later we drove downtown as the concert was now scheduled to start at 10 pm. Better late than never. Anyways Mr. Wilson and his band finally hit the stage. Listening to my older brothers live concert album of them over the years I was really stoked to hear them live. They did not disappoint. Fun Fun Fun! Thanks Brian & The Boys!
I hope to see the other Mr. Wilson soon, when time & life permits.
My 2 favorite Wilsons!
Had me fooled..... Steven, incidentally, is a big fan of the Beach Boys.
I saw Mr. Wilson many years ago when I was a young teen. It was my first concert I had ever been to. My older sister bought tickets & on the night of the concert she told me there was a delay. She told me to go rest in bed until it was time to go. An hour later we drove downtown as the concert was now scheduled to start at 10 pm. Better late than never. Anyways Mr. Wilson and his band finally hit the stage. Listening to my older brothers live concert album of them over the years I was really stoked to hear them live. They did not disappoint. Fun Fun Fun! Thanks Brian & The Boys!
I hope to see the other Mr. Wilson soon, when time & life permits.
My 2 favorite Wilsons!
I hope to see the other Mr. Wilson soon, when time & life permits.
My 2 favorite Wilsons!
Amazing!!!! Thanks RP!
What's 'saddes pain' when it's at home?
Alastair wrote:
I hate this too. Giving it an 8
Absolutley the kind of band I don't like. I have 6 of their albums.
Thanks RP
Thanks RP
I hate this too. Giving it an 8
Sasha2001 wrote:
Perhaps that would be "rapport he shared with his fans,". Unless his music included info he was reporting.
I can report that I love PT and most likely never would have known about Waiting, Dark Matter, Halo, Lazarus, Arriving Somewhere Not Here, etc. without RP. If I could make music like that, I would have plenty of rapport and never need to report to anything but my Muse.
I saw Mr. Wilson in the club 2 miles from my house last month and man, what a treat! He's such an amazing technician and musician, that goes without saying, but I was blown away by the breadth and variety in his catalog - even the new stuff is great. Perhaps most impressive was the report he shared with his fans, and the love they felt for him. He's a truly unique talent and I can't wait to see his act again.
Perhaps that would be "rapport he shared with his fans,". Unless his music included info he was reporting.
I can report that I love PT and most likely never would have known about Waiting, Dark Matter, Halo, Lazarus, Arriving Somewhere Not Here, etc. without RP. If I could make music like that, I would have plenty of rapport and never need to report to anything but my Muse.
Pink Floyd whaaaaa?
Abo`s jockstrap?Hmmm.ShaunJ wrote:
Absolutley the kind of band I don't like. I have 6 of their albums.
Thanks RP
Thanks RP
ncollingridge wrote:
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
This comment is born from either an ignorance of Porcupine Tree's catalogue, or from the basic fact that it takes soul to appreciate soul.
Or possibly this listener is among those unfortunates upon whom soulful lyrics /poetry is lost?
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
This comment is born from either an ignorance of Porcupine Tree's catalogue, or from the basic fact that it takes soul to appreciate soul.
Or possibly this listener is among those unfortunates upon whom soulful lyrics /poetry is lost?
ncollingridge wrote:
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
If this tune has no soul, then it has spirit. Lots of it. And I'll take spirit over soul anyday.
Soul is overrated.
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
If this tune has no soul, then it has spirit. Lots of it. And I'll take spirit over soul anyday.
Soul is overrated.
westslope wrote:
And one of many PT songs with an anti-blotto message in it.
So imagine that Steven Wilson was Nancy Reagan. He might say. OK, do drugs, but don't get blotto and don't allow them to get in the way of your work.
Waiting is about folks who fail to 'seize the day'.
And one of many PT songs with an anti-blotto message in it.
So imagine that Steven Wilson was Nancy Reagan. He might say. OK, do drugs, but don't get blotto and don't allow them to get in the way of your work.
Masterpiece.
tonyjory wrote:
"report" s/b "rapport"
Sasha2001 wrote:
I saw Mr. Wilson in the club 2 miles from my house last month and man, what a treat! He's such an amazing technician and musician, that goes without saying, but I was blown away by the breadth and variety in his catalog - even the new stuff is great. Perhaps most impressive was the report he shared with his fans, and the love they felt for him. He's a truly unique talent and I can't wait to see his act again.
Genius!!
Waiting is about folks who fail to 'seize the day'.
Algis wrote:
With your head?
But the album cover?
With your head?
I've always liked PT when hearing them on RP; this song today though pushed me to download the Signify album. Just really good stuff.
Algis wrote:
Tie the puppet up.
But the album cover?
Tie the puppet up.
I saw Mr. Wilson in the club 2 miles from my house last month and man, what a treat! He's such an amazing technician and musician, that goes without saying, but I was blown away by the breadth and variety in his catalog - even the new stuff is great. Perhaps most impressive was the report he shared with his fans, and the love they felt for him. He's a truly unique talent and I can't wait to see his act again.
Bill & Rebecca, for me, you can play as much PT/Steven Wilson as you please. I would have given this a 10, but there are PT tracks I like better. Excellent stuff though.
Always rips my heart out.....
poetdancer wrote:
I actually don't have a ticket yet, because service fees are so ridiculous. I will buy one when I'm able to get to the box office betwixt now and showtime, or else day of show, as I don't think it will sell out. But one never knows...
And now I'm flying to Los Angeles this Friday, so I'll miss this show after all...
I actually don't have a ticket yet, because service fees are so ridiculous. I will buy one when I'm able to get to the box office betwixt now and showtime, or else day of show, as I don't think it will sell out. But one never knows...
And now I'm flying to Los Angeles this Friday, so I'll miss this show after all...
But the album cover?
Cachatons wrote:
Yes, do you have an extra ticket?
I actually don't have a ticket yet, because service fees are so ridiculous. I will buy one when I'm able to get to the box office betwixt now and showtime, or else day of show, as I don't think it will sell out. But one never knows...
Yes, do you have an extra ticket?
I actually don't have a ticket yet, because service fees are so ridiculous. I will buy one when I'm able to get to the box office betwixt now and showtime, or else day of show, as I don't think it will sell out. But one never knows...
poetdancer wrote:
Yes, do you have an extra ticket?
Coming to the Fillmore in San Francisco May 11th. Anyone from the SF Bay Area want to join me?
Yes, do you have an extra ticket?
kingart wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
I don't deny much of what you have said, but I note that you don't mention soul or anything of the type, just technique. That's my problem with PT. All the musicianship in the world is worth nothing if there's no heart or soul, and I don't detect any here. Sorry.
Coming to the Fillmore in San Francisco May 11th. Anyone from the SF Bay Area want to join me?
kirch wrote:
I, too, discovered PT in the early 2000's when I heard "Prodigal" and thought, What is this! I love the early stuff best, but do like some of the later group and solo things.
Interesting array of comments on SW and his various iterations over the years. I was born in 1960, so his style of music was prominent during my musically formative 10-20 year age range (the '70's). My take is that if SW had been around then, he'd be extremely highly regarded by the masses today.
I have most of his catalog. Sure there are a few songs that don't fly with me, but I can say the same about Traffic, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. I love Signify on so many levels. Steven has a new album coming out very soon and I'm looking forward to it.
Either way, I would never had heard of Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson if it weren't for Radio Paradise. So thanks for turning me on to them back in the early '00's.
I have most of his catalog. Sure there are a few songs that don't fly with me, but I can say the same about Traffic, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. I love Signify on so many levels. Steven has a new album coming out very soon and I'm looking forward to it.
Either way, I would never had heard of Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson if it weren't for Radio Paradise. So thanks for turning me on to them back in the early '00's.
I, too, discovered PT in the early 2000's when I heard "Prodigal" and thought, What is this! I love the early stuff best, but do like some of the later group and solo things.
hugogdt wrote:
After a few decades seeing a lot of live bands in concert. I went to see Steven and was blown by how the audio was so clear. Never seen another band/musician pay that much detail to a clear audio sound for the audience. Saw Hand Cannot Erase concert last year, and already got my tickets for next March 2018 to see him again in an even better concert venue.
Great music, Carry on the good work....
Agreed, Steve Willson is one of the best live performances I have seen in the last years. Incredible band, clean sound and display and lots of feeling at the same time. MUSIC (yes capital letters).
After a few decades seeing a lot of live bands in concert. I went to see Steven and was blown by how the audio was so clear. Never seen another band/musician pay that much detail to a clear audio sound for the audience. Saw Hand Cannot Erase concert last year, and already got my tickets for next March 2018 to see him again in an even better concert venue.
Great music, Carry on the good work....
kirch wrote:
Most interesting comment kirch.
That said, I doubt that contemporary audiences have stopped discovering Steven Wilson. I expect the Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree fan base will continue growing.
Wilson does not appear to get along very well with one of his former PT band mates. Happens. Would love to see him overcome that personal animosity and put out another Porcupine Tree album. If well done, it would sell like hotcakes. Unlikely to happen perhaps.
I adore most of his solo output so no big loss from my perspective if PT never puts out another album or concert tour.
.... My take is that if SW had been around then, he'd be extremely highly regarded by the masses today. ...
Most interesting comment kirch.
That said, I doubt that contemporary audiences have stopped discovering Steven Wilson. I expect the Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree fan base will continue growing.
Wilson does not appear to get along very well with one of his former PT band mates. Happens. Would love to see him overcome that personal animosity and put out another Porcupine Tree album. If well done, it would sell like hotcakes. Unlikely to happen perhaps.
I adore most of his solo output so no big loss from my perspective if PT never puts out another album or concert tour.
another freaking awesome pt song.
I never get sick of them
I never get sick of them
Interesting array of comments on SW and his various iterations over the years. I was born in 1960, so his style of music was prominent during my musically formative 10-20 year age range (the '70's). My take is that if SW had been around then, he'd be extremely highly regarded by the masses today.
I have most of his catalog. Sure there are a few songs that don't fly with me, but I can say the same about Traffic, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. I love Signify on so many levels. Steven has a new album coming out very soon and I'm looking forward to it.
Either way, I would never had heard of Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson if it weren't for Radio Paradise. So thanks for turning me on to them back in the early '00's.
I have most of his catalog. Sure there are a few songs that don't fly with me, but I can say the same about Traffic, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. I love Signify on so many levels. Steven has a new album coming out very soon and I'm looking forward to it.
Either way, I would never had heard of Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson if it weren't for Radio Paradise. So thanks for turning me on to them back in the early '00's.
oceansurf wrote:
You know, I, like many of us, discovered PT because of RP. And I absolutely loved their music for a couple of years but my interest in them waned very quickly. I can take 'em or leave 'em now. I'll keep 'em on a Spotify playlist but that's about it. Carry on.
I love Radio Paradise and you guys have introduced me to so much great music, new and old.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
You know, I, like many of us, discovered PT because of RP. And I absolutely loved their music for a couple of years but my interest in them waned very quickly. I can take 'em or leave 'em now. I'll keep 'em on a Spotify playlist but that's about it. Carry on.
Well I played a friend of mine ONE PT track.He went to his record store and ordered every CD they had ever made!After hearing one song.Plus me raving on about them of course.He has also flown across Australia(big country) to see them or SW at least 4 times.In the top ten of all bands of all time in my little book.
I love Radio Paradise and you guys have introduced me to so much great music, new and old.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
Thanks for the concert reports!
Sure hope that Steven Wilson comes back to play in backwater Vancouver at some point. Though one of these days a road trip to a concert in Seattle, Washington might be in order.
Sure hope that Steven Wilson comes back to play in backwater Vancouver at some point. Though one of these days a road trip to a concert in Seattle, Washington might be in order.
Agreed, Steve Willson is one of the best live performances I have seen in the last years. Incredible band, clean sound and display and lots of feeling at the same time. MUSIC (yes capital letters).
Well folks, last evenings Steven Wilson Hand. Cannot. Erase. concert at the Majestic Theater here in Dallas was certainly a thriller. 2 1/2 hours of a show, first the H.C.E. done in full followed by a slew of material from over the years. Rather heavy on full on guitar shredding and a bass player channeling Chris Squire. Quite the show. Thank you so much Bill for playing so much of Steven Wilsons work!
Thanks so much RP to make me know Porcupine Tree. I love it !
Immediatly recognizable :)
Love it!
Love it!
westslope wrote:
I think we can be positive that we do like it.
I do, at least.
Hand. Cannot. Erase. is one of the best records I have heard in years.
I sure hope we Iike the new CD due out in March.
I think we can be positive that we do like it.
I do, at least.
Hand. Cannot. Erase. is one of the best records I have heard in years.
Another stunner. Really builds nicely.
Perfection
Sensational...
I got this CD when I was in England on vacation. A record store that over looked Piccadilly Circus. One of their best
I am IN LOVE with Porcupine Tree!!! Gavin is a master!!!! :)
Reminds me of 70's Dave Mason before he was eaten by commercialism. 
kingart wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
This.
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
This.
very good set this morning!!
My husband's 2 favourite bands, Porcupine Tree and Dream Theatre. Was introduced to them both and very much like, but Porcupine Tree is my fav.
kingart wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
Well put sir, i raise a glass to you
(anyone who 'plays' knows when they are in the presence of those who can do stuff that you can only dream of being able to play)
BTW have you heard a band called Dream Theater? they're heavier than Porcupine Tree, but equally awsome playing!
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
Well put sir, i raise a glass to you
(anyone who 'plays' knows when they are in the presence of those who can do stuff that you can only dream of being able to play)
BTW have you heard a band called Dream Theater? they're heavier than Porcupine Tree, but equally awsome playing!
sirtezza wrote:
sirtezza, what the hell is 'wet music?' Those PT chaps have more talent collectively and individually than most bands trying to make your 'wet music' these day's
I really don't get the adoration here for this dour, soulless PAP! Technically competent but as dry as an abo's jockstrap!
Less of this and more wet music please. (not Pink Floyd though, that's just damp mouldy old shit)
Less of this and more wet music please. (not Pink Floyd though, that's just damp mouldy old shit)
sirtezza, what the hell is 'wet music?' Those PT chaps have more talent collectively and individually than most bands trying to make your 'wet music' these day's
What Kingart said. And add that because Stephen Wilson is genius who deserves to be adored.
kingart wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
kingart wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
sirtezza wrote:
Welcome back, Stingray!
I really don't get the adoration here for this dour, soulless PAP! Technically competent but as dry as an abo's jockstrap!
Less of this and more wet music please. (not Pink Floyd though, that's just damp mouldy old shit)
Less of this and more wet music please. (not Pink Floyd though, that's just damp mouldy old shit)
Welcome back, Stingray!
kingart wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
well said..
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
well said..
sirtezza wrote:
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
I really don't get the adoration here for this dour, soulless PAP! Technically competent but as dry as an abo's jockstrap!
Less of this and more wet music please. (not Pink Floyd though, that's just damp mouldy old shit)
Less of this and more wet music please. (not Pink Floyd though, that's just damp mouldy old shit)
Because they are versatile. Because they have lyrics that engage and make one think. Because they have fabulous production and arrangement. Because they work hard to share a new sound. Because the musicianship is often first rate. Because they are a sonic breath of fresh air. Because Steve Wilson clearly has thought about conferring a vision through words and sound. Because on many tracks the drummer is a monster of a musician, totally dead on. And because imo no other band in the '90s to the '00s has come close to this versatility of elegant thunder.
Bert7 wrote:
This is from 1997. But yes, they are great.
This band just gets better...
This is from 1997. But yes, they are great.
This band just gets better...
I am continually impressed by this band's vocals. Yes, the instruments—especially the drums and guitars—are forefront, but the vocals approach the transcendent.
westslope wrote:
You mean you just heard the guitar riff that inspired thenewno2 over a decade later.
You took the words out of my mouth 
You mean you just heard the guitar riff that inspired thenewno2 over a decade later.
DaidyBoy wrote:
You mean you just heard the guitar riff that inspired thenewno2 over a decade later.
Just heard thenewno2 in this riff, surprisingly.
You mean you just heard the guitar riff that inspired thenewno2 over a decade later.
Just heard thenewno2 in this riff, surprisingly.
Hanging out badly for a new PT album by the worlds greatest band!
Propayne wrote:
Oh yeah? Details please even if it is pure speculation.
In the meantime, Steven Wilson is coming to the Vogue Theatre, Vancouver in June and we have our tickets! I sure hope we Iike the new CD due out in March. I reckon that Wilson hit it out of the park with the Raven CD.
Still love Signify.
Rumor has it, new P.T. in 2016
Oh yeah? Details please even if it is pure speculation.
In the meantime, Steven Wilson is coming to the Vogue Theatre, Vancouver in June and we have our tickets! I sure hope we Iike the new CD due out in March. I reckon that Wilson hit it out of the park with the Raven CD.
Still love Signify.
oceansurf wrote:
People who like this band REALLY like them. I'm not one of them.
However, I'm a huge fan of RP because they play a great variety of songs (like this) that you just don't hear anywhere else. :)
I love Radio Paradise and you guys have introduced me to so much great music, new and old.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
People who like this band REALLY like them. I'm not one of them.
However, I'm a huge fan of RP because they play a great variety of songs (like this) that you just don't hear anywhere else. :)
Rumor has it, new P.T. in 2016
look to the average rating for yer answer. 
Oh my....this is truly dreadful. Was that the goal?
Bill <3's PT
More Porcupine Tree!
Please
Please
Terrific as always.
I love Radio Paradise and you guys have introduced me to so much great music, new and old.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
But Porcupine Tree is not one of those. In my opinion, I think you play way too much of these guys... They just aren't that great. Sort of a 90's hanger-on, alt band that never made it, with the occasional moody minor chord to be edgy. Maybe you are sentimental for them, Bill?
I'm sorry, but these guys are like a neutered and diluted Tool, who might just play weddings for confused 21 year olds.
Anyway, that's my 2c.
But RP is brilliant, keep up the great work, Bill & Rebecca.
Just PLEASE play less Porcupine Tree!
Thanks.
Great song by PTPeeTeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :)
westslope wrote:
Otomi:
You are one clever dude, man.
Congratulations.
Deja de hinchar las pelotas.
You are one clever dude, man.
Congratulations.
Deja de hinchar las pelotas.
Image source: https://www.funnysigns.net/deflated-knobby-balls/
Otomi:
You are one clever dude, man.
Congratulations.
Deja de hinchar las pelotas.
You are one clever dude, man.
Congratulations.
Deja de hinchar las pelotas.
westslope wrote:
So true! No wonder I never did get a response.
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist!
So true! No wonder I never did get a response.
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist!
Otomi wrote:
So true! No wonder I never did get a response.
westslope wrote:
Hey Westslope, there's no verb in your first line of text!
The Durutti Column..... not familiar.
The wiki-page reads too much like fan mail or an infor-mercial, so if somebody was to use complete sentences to describe the sound, and then recommend an entry CD, I would be much obliged.
And, what in Bill's name are muso circles?
The wiki-page reads too much like fan mail or an infor-mercial, so if somebody was to use complete sentences to describe the sound, and then recommend an entry CD, I would be much obliged.
And, what in Bill's name are muso circles?
Hey Westslope, there's no verb in your first line of text!
So true! No wonder I never did get a response.
Their body of work is amazing.
Great band.
Great band.
westslope wrote:
Hey Westslope, there's no verb in your first line of text!
The Durutti Column..... not familiar.
The wiki-page reads too much like fan mail or an infor-mercial, so if somebody was to use complete sentences to describe the sound, and then recommend an entry CD, I would be much obliged.
And, what in Bill's name are muso circles?
The wiki-page reads too much like fan mail or an infor-mercial, so if somebody was to use complete sentences to describe the sound, and then recommend an entry CD, I would be much obliged.
And, what in Bill's name are muso circles?
Hey Westslope, there's no verb in your first line of text!
The Durutti Column..... not familiar.
The wiki-page reads too much like fan mail or an infor-mercial, so if somebody was to use complete sentences to describe the sound, and then recommend an entry CD, I would be much obliged.
And, what in Bill's name are muso circles?
The wiki-page reads too much like fan mail or an infor-mercial, so if somebody was to use complete sentences to describe the sound, and then recommend an entry CD, I would be much obliged.
And, what in Bill's name are muso circles?
Indeed a great band it their own right - no Genesis copy (as I thought first!)
Lacapella wrote:
....... ditto thanks RP
I'm grateful to RP for bringing Porcupine Tree and Madrugada to my ears, and for reminding me of my little 1970s prog rock self...
....... ditto thanks RP
I'm grateful to RP for bringing Porcupine Tree and Madrugada to my ears, and for reminding me of my little 1970s prog rock self...
gypsyman wrote:
Yeah.... a tad as he goes off into guitar solo land. Good call!
Anyone hear Durutti Column?
Yeah.... a tad as he goes off into guitar solo land. Good call!
I see that Mr. Wilson was tapped by Yes to handle the 5.1 Surround Sound mix for Close To The Edge.
Can't wait to pick that up.
Can't wait to pick that up.
westslope wrote:
Very true, I saw SW play the Raven Who Refused to Sing live a couple months back in St. Pete, and hearing it live it really struck me that it was very much like Relayer/Close to the Edge, and a few bits of early Rush thrown in.
I still defer to Pink Floyd as the one true god of prog/art rock, and no one has been able to step up and produce work that is remotely as strong conceptually and musically until Porcupine Tree came of age. We all had hoped that Radiohead could be the next Pink Floyd, but they haven't delivered anything spectacular since their great run of Bends/OK Computer/Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail to the Thief. Porcupine Tree is the new Pink Floyd, no one comes close to carrying the prog-rock conceptual torch.
Sweet. RP is playing the Tree twice a day now.
if you like King Crimson, if you like Yes' Relayer album, if you think Steven Wilson is the renaissance man most of us would have liked to have been, then give The Raven that refused to sing several lessons. He nailed it. His band drowns in talent.
Helps if you like jazz-rock fusion material with an occasional edge.
Very true, I saw SW play the Raven Who Refused to Sing live a couple months back in St. Pete, and hearing it live it really struck me that it was very much like Relayer/Close to the Edge, and a few bits of early Rush thrown in.
I still defer to Pink Floyd as the one true god of prog/art rock, and no one has been able to step up and produce work that is remotely as strong conceptually and musically until Porcupine Tree came of age. We all had hoped that Radiohead could be the next Pink Floyd, but they haven't delivered anything spectacular since their great run of Bends/OK Computer/Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail to the Thief. Porcupine Tree is the new Pink Floyd, no one comes close to carrying the prog-rock conceptual torch.
Sweet. RP is playing the Tree twice a day now.
if you like King Crimson, if you like Yes' Relayer album, if you think Steven Wilson is the renaissance man most of us would have liked to have been, then give The Raven that refused to sing several lessons listens. He nailed it. His band drowns in talent.
Helps if you like jazz-rock fusion material with an occasional edge.
Bosami wrote:
You keep a good book.
So to play with, as you have stated - the emotion and conviction that Steven Wilson clearly possesses - this, combined with how he constructs and creates his music - elevates him as a truly great guitar player in my book.
You keep a good book.
Anyone hear Durutti Column?
horstman wrote:
Steven states that he is not a particularly great guitar player because it's true. He does, however, play with emotion and conviction. Just listen to Ambulance Chasing on Recordings. It's breathtaking.
But he has limitations and he admits them and that is truthful and frank.
In my opinion what makes a guitarist 'great' is what he plays - not whether or not he has a black belt in music theory, or can run the scales in any key. There are plenty of technically talented guitar players who simply do not have the artistic depth or vision to write truly great material. In many ways - being a virtuoso is limiting - in terms of one's approach to songwriting.
The movie 'It Might Get Loud' illustrates this somewhat. The Edge clearly does not posses the raw technical ability of Jack White or Jimmy Page - but he still manages to craft the most incredible and unique sounds - vibrant textures of sonic atmosphere that are iconically identifyable to U2 and which have resonated for decades. The ability to do this, in my opinion, supercedes any judgement of an artists' particular talent for navigating the instruments they endevour to use in the creative process.
So to play with, as you have stated - the emotion and conviction that Steven Wilson clearly posesses - this, combined with how he constructs and creates his music - elevates him as a truly great guitar player in my book.
Steven states that he is not a particularly great guitar player because it's true. He does, however, play with emotion and conviction. Just listen to Ambulance Chasing on Recordings. It's breathtaking.
But he has limitations and he admits them and that is truthful and frank.
In my opinion what makes a guitarist 'great' is what he plays - not whether or not he has a black belt in music theory, or can run the scales in any key. There are plenty of technically talented guitar players who simply do not have the artistic depth or vision to write truly great material. In many ways - being a virtuoso is limiting - in terms of one's approach to songwriting.
The movie 'It Might Get Loud' illustrates this somewhat. The Edge clearly does not posses the raw technical ability of Jack White or Jimmy Page - but he still manages to craft the most incredible and unique sounds - vibrant textures of sonic atmosphere that are iconically identifyable to U2 and which have resonated for decades. The ability to do this, in my opinion, supercedes any judgement of an artists' particular talent for navigating the instruments they endevour to use in the creative process.
So to play with, as you have stated - the emotion and conviction that Steven Wilson clearly posesses - this, combined with how he constructs and creates his music - elevates him as a truly great guitar player in my book.
MLavender wrote:
If you have In Absentia, it might be tricky which album to get next. I'd go to somewhere like Amazon.com and listen to the samples of the two studio albums before and the two after. Porcupine Tree was a bit more "Pink Floydish" before In Absentia and a bit more "Opethish" (but not vocally) after. Mind you, I like all four of the albums that bookend In Absentia, but personally I give a slight not to those that came before.
Before: Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream
After: Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet
Before: Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream
After: Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet
Interesting. Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream—both excellent CDs—remind me of the psychedelic phase of the Beatles. Some of the harmonies are a nod to the Beach Boys.
It is the material that precedes the Signify CD that reminds me the most of Pink Floyd.
Why do people want to compare this band to Pink Floyd? The earlier stuff maybe.
This makes me think more of King Crimson.
The Signify CD is a must have BTW for all keen PT fans.
The live version of this on Coma Divine is trancendent. Brilliant.
Crazy! Porcupine Tree+Bongos! Did not ever imagine the two together.
LOVE Porcupine Tree!
Good shite!
Absolutely brilliant. Goosebumps material.
clwguy wrote:
I know, right?!?! Waiting Phase One, in particular just makes me all happy!
Have I mentioned how much i love Porcupine Tree?
I know, right?!?! Waiting Phase One, in particular just makes me all happy!
Have I mentioned how much i love Porcupine Tree?
The 2006 DVD Arriving Somewhere is worth a look. Flawless performances of their best stuff to that point.
If you have In Absentia, it might be tricky which album to get next. I'd go to somewhere like Amazon.com and listen to the samples of the two studio albums before and the two after. Porcupine Tree was a bit more "Pink Floydish" before In Absentia and a bit more "Opethish" (but not vocally) after. Mind you, I like all four of the albums that bookend In Absentia, but personally I give a slight not to those that came before.
Before: Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream
After: Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet
Before: Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream
After: Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet
When people tell me there are no great bands out now, I have Radio Paradise to thank for turning me on to Porcupine Tree: 9!!
aspicer wrote:
Who concurs with this list? I'm new to PT and definitely digging them, and looking to prioritize the albums I get into. I already have in Absentia and that is what grabbed my interest - what is the best path at this point?! Love any input here.
For newby Radiohead fans I posted a similarly recommended album list in the past, if you are interested.
I would get Deadwing next
Who concurs with this list? I'm new to PT and definitely digging them, and looking to prioritize the albums I get into. I already have in Absentia and that is what grabbed my interest - what is the best path at this point?! Love any input here.
For newby Radiohead fans I posted a similarly recommended album list in the past, if you are interested.
I would get Deadwing next
jchrise wrote:
Who concurs with this list? I'm new to PT and definitely digging them, and looking to prioritize the albums I get into. I already have in Absentia and that is what grabbed my interest - what is the best path at this point?! Love any input here.
For newby Radiohead fans I posted a similarly recommended album list in the past, if you are interested.
For all PT newbies...they go way back. Frontman and songwriter is Steven Wilson. Some of the my favorite PT albums:
The above albums should be listened to in their entirety for maximum appreciation.
Also, Steven Wilson IS the same for the group Blackfield, also heard here on Radio Paradise.
See more about Steven Wilson here. What I love about this cat is his non-rockstar, regular guy persona...really cool for someone I regard as one of the understated greats.
- Deadwing
- In Absentia
- Stupid Dream
- Fear of an Blank Planet
- Anesthetize
The above albums should be listened to in their entirety for maximum appreciation.
Also, Steven Wilson IS the same for the group Blackfield, also heard here on Radio Paradise.
See more about Steven Wilson here. What I love about this cat is his non-rockstar, regular guy persona...really cool for someone I regard as one of the understated greats.
Who concurs with this list? I'm new to PT and definitely digging them, and looking to prioritize the albums I get into. I already have in Absentia and that is what grabbed my interest - what is the best path at this point?! Love any input here.
For newby Radiohead fans I posted a similarly recommended album list in the past, if you are interested.
horstman wrote:
Steven states that he is not a particularly great guitar player because it's true. He does, however, play with emotion and conviction. Just listen to Ambulance Chasing on Recordings. It's breathtaking.
But he has limitations and he admits them and that is truthful and frank. His true skills are his voice (it really is superb), his songwriting and his spatial effects (listen to his solo albums!). He is very close to being an overall great artist, arguably one of the truly greatest of his generation. His work with Opeth is amazing, he crosses many boundaries.
He is not the heart and soul of Blackfield but is certainly the rhythm of the band. He is also one of the best producers out there currently. I'd put him up there with Eno and Lanois (for this time period). He is multi talented which allows his guitar playing to be not great, but very good.
Wilson plays like Fripp or Gilmour... tasteful and angry at times. simple but involved.
Steven states that he is not a particularly great guitar player because it's true. He does, however, play with emotion and conviction. Just listen to Ambulance Chasing on Recordings. It's breathtaking.
But he has limitations and he admits them and that is truthful and frank. His true skills are his voice (it really is superb), his songwriting and his spatial effects (listen to his solo albums!). He is very close to being an overall great artist, arguably one of the truly greatest of his generation. His work with Opeth is amazing, he crosses many boundaries.
He is not the heart and soul of Blackfield but is certainly the rhythm of the band. He is also one of the best producers out there currently. I'd put him up there with Eno and Lanois (for this time period). He is multi talented which allows his guitar playing to be not great, but very good.
Wilson plays like Fripp or Gilmour... tasteful and angry at times. simple but involved.
Canlistener wrote:
An understated great is a perfect description... he's a player's player IHO. When I have regular radio on and a band like Nickleback comes on I get physically angry. How crap like that is regular play but genius like Wilson is left obscure is twisted. He doesn't even consider himself a particularly great guitar player, go figure?
Steven states that he is not a particularly great guitar player because it's true. He does, however, play with emotion and conviction. Just listen to Ambulance Chasing on Recordings. It's breathtaking.
But he has limitations and he admits them and that is truthful and frank. His true skills are his voice (it really is superb), his songwriting and his spatial effects (listen to his solo albums!). He is very close to being an overall great artist, arguably one of the truly greatest of his generation. His work with Opeth is amazing, he crosses many boundaries.
He is not the heart and soul of Blackfield but is certainly the rhythm of the band. He is also one of the best producers out there currently. I'd put him up there with Eno and Lanois (for this time period). He is multi talented which allows his guitar playing to be not great, but very good.
An understated great is a perfect description... he's a player's player IHO. When I have regular radio on and a band like Nickleback comes on I get physically angry. How crap like that is regular play but genius like Wilson is left obscure is twisted. He doesn't even consider himself a particularly great guitar player, go figure?
Steven states that he is not a particularly great guitar player because it's true. He does, however, play with emotion and conviction. Just listen to Ambulance Chasing on Recordings. It's breathtaking.
But he has limitations and he admits them and that is truthful and frank. His true skills are his voice (it really is superb), his songwriting and his spatial effects (listen to his solo albums!). He is very close to being an overall great artist, arguably one of the truly greatest of his generation. His work with Opeth is amazing, he crosses many boundaries.
He is not the heart and soul of Blackfield but is certainly the rhythm of the band. He is also one of the best producers out there currently. I'd put him up there with Eno and Lanois (for this time period). He is multi talented which allows his guitar playing to be not great, but very good.
westslope wrote:
Dang! retraction..retraction!
Canlistener: By dumping on Nickleback, you have forfeited your opportunity to win the Order of Canada.
tsk, tsk.
This is one of the best ones off the Signify CD.
Dang! retraction..retraction!
Canlistener: By dumping on Nickleback, you have forfeited your opportunity to win the Order of Canada.
tsk, tsk.
This is one of the best ones off the Signify CD.
jchrise wrote:
An understated great is a perfect description... he's a player's player IHO. When I have regular radio on and a band like Nickleback comes on I get physically angry. How crap like that is regular play but genius like Wilson is left obscure is twisted. He doesn't even consider himself a particularly great guitar player, go figure?
For all PT newbies...they go way back. Frontman and songwriter is Steven Wilson. Some of the my favorite PT albums:
The above albums should be listened to in their entirety for maximum appreciation.
Also, Steven Wilson IS the same for the group Blackfield, also heard here on Radio Paradise.
See more about Steven Wilson here. What I love about this cat is his non-rockstar, regular guy persona...really cool for someone I regard as one of the understated greats.
- Deadwing
- In Absentia
- Stupid Dream
- Fear of an Blank Planet
- Anesthetize
The above albums should be listened to in their entirety for maximum appreciation.
Also, Steven Wilson IS the same for the group Blackfield, also heard here on Radio Paradise.
See more about Steven Wilson here. What I love about this cat is his non-rockstar, regular guy persona...really cool for someone I regard as one of the understated greats.
An understated great is a perfect description... he's a player's player IHO. When I have regular radio on and a band like Nickleback comes on I get physically angry. How crap like that is regular play but genius like Wilson is left obscure is twisted. He doesn't even consider himself a particularly great guitar player, go figure?
Somehow Porcupine Tree is a typical RP Band... or RP is a typical Porcupine-Tree Station. Ah, anyway... i love it!
For all PT newbies...they go way back. Frontman and songwriter is Steven Wilson. Some of the my favorite PT albums:
The above albums should be listened to in their entirety for maximum appreciation.
Also, Steven Wilson IS the same for the group Blackfield, also heard here on Radio Paradise.
See more about Steven Wilson here. What I love about this cat is his non-rockstar, regular guy persona...really cool for someone I regard as one of the understated greats.
- Deadwing
- In Absentia
- Stupid Dream
- Fear of an Blank Planet
- Anesthetize
The above albums should be listened to in their entirety for maximum appreciation.
Also, Steven Wilson IS the same for the group Blackfield, also heard here on Radio Paradise.
See more about Steven Wilson here. What I love about this cat is his non-rockstar, regular guy persona...really cool for someone I regard as one of the understated greats.
finoufk wrote:
Be prepared to have your mind blown my friend....
what the hell is this group !?! I love that sound ! why is it totally unknown in France ?? such a shame . I go right now down to my favorite record shop (there 're still some ) buy the whole discography....
Be prepared to have your mind blown my friend....