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Jun 22, 2016 - 6:58am
sirdroseph wrote:
I remember from the beginning wondering aloud whether Trump was part of the Clinton machine, now with him potentially taking the entire party down I am beginning to wonder if he is working for the DNC? hmmmm. In the end, I think it is good. The Republicans are closer to the end anyway, get them out of the way, shines more of a spotlight on the Democrats and then we can bring them down too. I think in the end, the farce of Clinton and Trump is so obvious this could really be the beginning of the dismantling of our present system. Hey I am in an optimistic mood.
You are an optimist, imo, to believe that a "dismantling" of the two-party system will inevitably be replaced by something better. Not a safe assumption. Not safe at all. Watch out what you wish for.
I'm still waiting for him to pull off the wig and mask and reveal himself as Andy Kaufman, he'll take a bow and say "T'ank you veddy much", thus ending the longest running gag of his career.
I remember from the beginning wondering aloud whether Trump was part of the Clinton machine, now with him potentially taking the entire party down I am beginning to wonder if he is working for the DNC? hmmmm. In the end, I think it is good. The Republicans are closer to the end anyway, get them out of the way, shines more of a spotlight on the Democrats and then we can bring them down too. I think in the end, the farce of Clinton and Trump is so obvious this could really be the beginning of the dismantling of our present system. Hey I am in an optimistic mood.
I'm still waiting for him to pull off the wig and mask and reveal himself as Andy Kaufman, he'll take a bow and say "T'ank you veddy much", thus ending the longest running gag of his career.
I remember from the beginning wondering aloud whether Trump was part of the Clinton machine, now with him potentially taking the entire party down I am beginning to wonder if he is working for the DNC? hmmmm. In the end, I think it is good. The Republicans are closer to the end anyway, get them out of the way, shines more of a spotlight on the Democrats and then we can bring them down too. I think in the end, the farce of Clinton and Trump is so obvious this could really be the beginning of the dismantling of our present system. Hey I am in an optimistic mood.
I remember from the beginning wondering aloud whether Trump was part of the Clinton machine, now with him potentially taking the entire party down I am beginning to wonder if he is working for the DNC? hmmmm. In the end, I think it is good. The Republicans are closer to the end anyway, get them out of the way, shines more of a spotlight on the Democrats and then we can bring them down too. I think in the end, the farce of Clinton and Trump is so obvious this could really be the beginning of the dismantling of our present system. Hey I am in an optimistic mood.
I really want to see publicly-funded elections. The qualifications need to be worked out, but after that everyone gets the same air-time, campaign appearances, etc. Get money the hell out of the system; it's the only way to fix it.
Completely agree. Apparently a lot of people in Congress privately feel the same way: they spend almost all their time dialing for dollars and traveling to hustle up more money. Would love to see Citizens United overturned and very restrictive laws imposed on lobbying.
We do it differently here. The mining magnate behind the Palmer United Party, Clive Palmer, donated large amounts of money to his senate campaign from one of his companies as it was going insolvent. Then he asked for a government bailout.
I really want to see publicly-funded elections. The qualifications need to be worked out, but after that everyone gets the same air-time, campaign appearances, etc. Get money the hell out of the system; it's the only way to fix it.
We do it differently here. The mining magnate behind the Palmer United Party, Clive Palmer, donated large amounts of money to his senate campaign from one of his companies as it was going insolvent. Then he asked for a government bailout.
Yes I am aware of that. It's telling us something. Trump is a businessman. He wants to make money. Not spending it on something that will only cost money. He knows he is losing, but his ego tells him not to back off. So he playing poker with just enough chips to remain in the game, but not enough to loose big in the end.
Generally, presidential candidates don't look to make a profit or break even from their campaign. The idea is to win and win big so that you can claim a mandate and help increase the number of seats in Congress that your party holds. If Trump doesn't stay fairly close to Hillary in the polls, I think his supporters won't show up to vote and a loss will turn into a landslide rout.
Trump ran a great reality-show campaign during the primaries, the ideal setting for spectacle politics. Mittens Romney did the same thing in '12—saying that he was going to so tough that illegal immigrants would self-deport, that 47% of Americans couldn't take care of their own lives—but raced to the middle and disavowed all the nasty statements once he locked up the nomination.
During the primaries, Mitt's campaign was also quietly establishing a network of state- and local-level campaign offices as well as creating a machine for soliciting and handling donations.
Drumpf has screwed himself over. He's firmly established himself as the anti-establishment, blow-the-party-up candidate. He cannot race to the middle because voters have taken his extreme statements seriously and will not believe any peacemaking statements that he might make. He has created such a limited and unconventional campaign structure and permanently alienated so many voters that reliable, deep-pocketed Republican donors don't believe he can win and are not giving money to him.
For now, he has to rely on free press by making more extreme statements and hoping the media will still report on them. My guess is that his support numbers are about maxed out right now. I don't see that he has anywhere to go but down, unless Hillary really screws up or there's a big event like a terrorist attack that might drive voters towards Trump.
He can also self-fund TV ads and build-up of his campaign structure to get over the dry spell of campaign money, but I don't know if he's willing to do that. For a guy who loves to talk about how rich he is, he's very shy about sharing details about his wealth and he's not spending much of his own money to keep things going.
Trump has run an off-the-cuff campaign with insufficient long-term planning and organization thinking. It's really catching up to him now. Having only $1.3 million when you're going into your convention is disastrous. Bernie Sanders' campaign has more money than that.
and now let's ask the Trump supporters to weigh in with why this is OK.
Commissioner Gordon, I saw the Bat Signal !
Oh that. I've had the TVoid off all day playing with music trying to stay away from this stuff, but ...
All's I have is what has been posted here to work with. Don't know more than that at this point.
Having said that, I know that his biggest expense has been flying his plane around and all the Jet A it takes which is a small fortune in itself and certainly is a legitimate expense as are facility fees for his functions even if they are at his own properties. Other than that, I need to know more. What is legal and what is not. I do know that the FEC is very tough and has put people in jail for fraud many times. Have to wait and see. Morning Joe will be very interesting tomorrow.
Sidebar to those who think that all I watch is FOX. Morning Joe on MSNBC has been my go to for most important political things for many months now. I view the rest of what I see with them as the baseline. The rest of MSNBC is still not to be taken very seriously, but I hold Morning Joe in high regard.
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Posted:
Jun 21, 2016 - 8:03am
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
No, his point then was that he was able to finance his own campaign. Peel off a billion that he won't even miss, and then he won't be beholden to donors. Now he's looking for donors.
For Europeans this kind of politics is strange. Buying your way into the presidential chair... Is this democracy?
Not just Europeans. I signed a petition the other day to get rid of this way of political dealing, but it feels futile. The powers that be will never let that go.
Yes I am aware of that. It's telling us something. Trump is a businessman. He wants to make money. Not spending it on something that will only cost money. He knows he is losing, but his ego tells him not to back off. So he playing poker with just enough chips to remain in the game, but not enough to loose big in the end.
No, his point then was that he was able to finance his own campaign. Peel off a billion that he won't even miss, and then he won't be beholden to donors. Now he's looking for donors.
Yes I am aware of that. It's telling us something. Trump is a businessman. He wants to make money. Not spending it on something that will only cost money. He knows he is losing, but his ego tells him not to back off. So he playing poker with just enough chips to remain in the game, but not enough to loose big in the end.
He isn't broke. He just isn't spending all his money on trying to become a president. For Europeans this kind of politics is strange. Buying your way into the presidential chair... Is this democracy?
