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Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 10:21am

 BasmntMadman wrote:
 



 
{#Lol} Nice!

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Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 9:18am

 JustineFromWyoming wrote:

Not just a Mormon ( I'm sure he'd correct you, on one of his doofy charts, that it's 'L.D.S') but a convert to the L.D.S faith. And an alcoholic. I'm sure that's been absolved for him. 

Okay, this is where I personalize it and give the explanation as to why Glenn Beck makes me prefer nails on a chalkboard to listening to anything he has to say, or more accurately, perform.  I grew up with Mormons in California. I loved that there were so many religious traditions possible in California, but when it came down to it the most folks I went to school with were Catholic, protestant (lots of Presbyterians, Lutherans and Baptists), Hare Krishnas ( a small enclave in the mountains above where I lived, included in our school district; in addition to Joses, Marias and Stephanies, we had Bhaktas) or Mormon. A few Jehovah Witnesses and even fewer Episcopalians like me. We knew to never discuss religion with JWs, but the Mormons were pretty 'live and let live'. I lived with some Jack Mormons in college and they were great drinking buddies. Eventually, after those wild seeds were sown, they returned to the Father Church and did their best to live the approved life and became refurbished virgins while not forsaking those non-L.D.S relationships they'd built. And, never, ever was there the Missionary Hard Sell© to join up. It wasn't until moving here that I ran across the Rocky Mountain JihadiMormonis. Fundamentalist, judgmental, generally unpleasant and dogmatic... and almost all converts to the L.D.S faith...

So, my point? It doesn't matter what robe of faith it's cloaked, intolerance and small-mindedness is the same illness and it doesn't matter which land mass it originates from.

The only thing Gleen Beck wants to restore is his bank account and his supply of dry erase markers...


 
Dang,I love it; let's say it again !


BasmntMadman

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Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 8:53am

 




mzpro5

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Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 8:16am

 JustineFromWyoming wrote:

. and almost all converts to the L.D.S faith...


 
In most religions you will find the converts are the ones proselytizing about their faith the most.

I think they need to be like that in order to justify their own conversion.

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Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 7:59am

 JustineFromWyoming wrote:
  It doesn't matter what robe of faith it's cloaked, intolerance and small-mindedness is the same illness and it doesn't matter which land mass it originates from.
 
Amen.

samiyam

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 8:34pm

 rosedraws wrote:

you got an extra "m" in there.

 

 
No need to bring Meower into this...

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 8:06pm

 JustineFromWyoming wrote:

Not just a Mormon ( I'm sure he'd correct you, on one of his doofy charts, that it's 'L.D.S') but a convert to the L.D.S faith. And an alcoholic. I'm sure that's been absolved for him. 

Okay, this is where I personalize it and give the explanation as to why Glenn Beck makes me prefer nails on a chalkboard to listening to anything he has to say, or more accurately, perform.  I grew up with Mormons in California. I loved that there were so many religious traditions possible in California, but when it came down to it the most folks I went to school with were Catholic, protestant (lots of Presbyterians, Lutherans and Baptists), Hare Krishnas ( a small enclave in the mountains above where I lived, included in our school district; in addition to Joses, Marias and Stephanies, we had Bhaktas) or Mormon. A few Jehovah Witnesses and even fewer Episcopalians like me. We knew to never discuss religion with JWs, but the Mormons were pretty 'live and let live'. I lived with some Jack Mormons in college and they were great drinking buddies. Eventually, after those wild seeds were sown, they returned to the Father Church and did their best to live the approved life and became refurbished virgins while not forsaking those non-L.D.S relationships they'd built. And, never, ever was there the Missionary Hard Sell© to join up. It wasn't until moving here that I ran across the Rocky Mountain JihadiMormonis. Fundamentalist, judgmental, generally unpleasant and dogmatic... and almost all converts to the L.D.S faith...

So, my point? It doesn't matter what robe of faith it's cloaked, intolerance and small-mindedness is the same illness and it doesn't matter which land mass it originates from.

The only thing Gleen Beck wants to restore is his bank account and his supply of dry erase markers...
 
  WOW great comment!!! Thanks a bunch for siphoning off the religious BS that keeps getting spun 'without invitation' like carnival art in our psyche, from the mainstream media.


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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 7:37pm

 hobiejoe wrote:

Hmmmph. I suppose my hackles were raised un petit peu when at about 23 seconds in the stentorious voice over mentioned that "faith has driven us to become the greatest people the world has ever known"
 

 
I'm usually interested in what Nick Gillespie has to say and I thought he may get some objective coverage of the non-event.

Where would any American get the idea that they were the greatest?

May be that we Americans have been told by our parents, politicians, teachers, immigrants and government officials for our entire lives that America is the greatest country on earth.

It's the same great government that inspires the same group of great people practicing blind conformity that coveted, raped, pillaged and conquered practically anyone it wanted to, both foreign and domestic.

In fact, we're currently preparing to invade our own great country.

Might makes right. We will kick anyone's ass, even our own, and ask for God's blessing at the same time. It is the American way.

Government, especially great American government equals/means a group of individuals who claim the right to initiate violence against everyone else, in the form of war, taxation, incarceration, regulations etc.

And God knows only great people could live like this....


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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 7:35pm

 islander wrote:

Huh, not what I was expecting either.  Isn't Glenn Beck a Mormon?  Why does he get cred w/ the evangelicals but Romney can't?
 
Not just a Mormon ( I'm sure he'd correct you, on one of his doofy charts, that it's 'L.D.S') but a convert to the L.D.S faith. And an alcoholic. I'm sure that's been absolved for him. 

Okay, this is where I personalize it and give the explanation as to why Glenn Beck makes me prefer nails on a chalkboard to listening to anything he has to say, or more accurately, perform.  I grew up with Mormons in California. I loved that there were so many religious traditions possible in California, but when it came down to it the most folks I went to school with were Catholic, protestant (lots of Presbyterians, Lutherans and Baptists), Hare Krishnas ( a small enclave in the mountains above where I lived, included in our school district; in addition to Joses, Marias and Stephanies, we had Bhaktas) or Mormon. A few Jehovah Witnesses and even fewer Episcopalians like me. We knew to never discuss religion with JWs, but the Mormons were pretty 'live and let live'. I lived with some Jack Mormons in college and they were great drinking buddies. Eventually, after those wild seeds were sown, they returned to the Father Church and did their best to live the approved life and became refurbished virgins while not forsaking those non-L.D.S relationships they'd built. And, never, ever was there the Missionary Hard Sell© to join up. It wasn't until moving here that I ran across the Rocky Mountain JihadiMormonis. Fundamentalist, judgmental, generally unpleasant and dogmatic... and almost all converts to the L.D.S faith...

So, my point? It doesn't matter what robe of faith it's cloaked, intolerance and small-mindedness is the same illness and it doesn't matter which land mass it originates from.

The only thing Gleen Beck wants to restore is his bank account and his supply of dry erase markers...

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 6:03pm

 hobiejoe wrote:

{#Arrowu} So that's not a wink emoticon, it's half a squint!
 
Oh gosh, gags that bad must mean that it's bedtime, and 2am it is. G'night {#Wave}
 
Yes, and half a squint equals one squanto. {#Wave} Have a good night, HJ.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:59pm

 OlderThanDirt wrote:

About half of my ancestors are Native American, I wear glasses, and I have a sense of humor.  {#Wink}

 
{#Arrowu} So that's not a wink emoticon, it's half a squint!
 
Oh gosh, gags that bad must mean that it's bedtime, and 2am it is. G'night {#Wave}

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:49pm

 hobiejoe wrote:

Nah, that's just funny, and no one better to judge what's funny and what's cruel than a bunch of school kids - very fine line though it is.
 
I think perhaps PC might have come from a deep-rooted sense that we as adults have lost that ingrained childhood morality. Oh gosh, kids can be cruel, but it always works out, but the big bullies are grown-ups now, they can say what they like because they're adults whether it's in the bar or on national radio or television. And the more they get away with bullying and belittling the little guy/gay/lesbian/liberal/anyone not like them because they don't happen to have a collective voice to stand up for them, so PC steps in to say "think about what you want to say, to whom you will say it and the words that you may use"
 
So what do the bullies do? Bully PC.
 
And so it goes.
 
About half of my ancestors are Native American, I wear glasses, and I have a sense of humor.  {#Wink}
hobiejoe

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:40pm

 ptooey wrote:

Completely random aside:  I grew up right outside of the rez, and went to high school with a Native American guy who would not admit that he needed glasses.  Yeah, probably not the most politically correct thing, but everyone called him Squinto.
 
Excellent rant, HJ.
 
Nah, that's just funny, and no one better to judge what's funny and what's cruel than a bunch of school kids - very fine line though it is.
 
I think perhaps PC might have come from a deep-rooted sense that we as adults have lost that ingrained childhood morality. Oh gosh, kids can be cruel, but it always works out, but the big bullies are grown-ups now, they can say what they like because they're adults whether it's in the bar or on national radio or television. And the more they get away with bullying and belittling the little guy/gay/lesbian/liberal/anyone not like them because they don't happen to have a collective voice to stand up for them, so PC steps in to say "think about what you want to say, to whom you will say it and the words that you may use"
 
So what do the bullies do? Bully PC.
 
And so it goes.

islander

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:30pm

 hobiejoe wrote:

Hmmmph. I suppose my hackles were raised un petit peu when at about 23 seconds in the stentorious voice over mentioned that "faith has driven us to become the greatest people the world has ever known"
 
Oh, OK then.
 
 {#Yell} Hey guys, yes you, the people who think that "faith has driven us to become the greatest people the world has ever known", we-ell, there are quiet a few of us, not many, just a few billion of us who don't quite agree? Those of us who've created the classical myths, calculated the diameter of the Earth thousands of years ago using geometry a big stick and two shadows, honed the science of mathematics in the middle east - introduced the concept of 'zero', fermented wine 5000 years ago in the city of Shiraz, plotted the passage of the stars across the skies before most of you even think the universe was created and on, and on, and on.
 
FFS, your biggest heroes, the Pilgrim Fathers, wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for the fact that the idiots who crammed themselves into one tiny vessel, the Mayflower, because the other vessel they chartered, the Speedwell, was such a pile of shite that it couldn't leave Plymouth, met a native American, whose name escapes me, but I'm mid-rant, google it yourself, spoke English on account of having been in London for many years, and helped them survive. I believe turkeys may have been involved.
 
They had no agricultural implements to speak of, they had little fishing tackle although they did, apparently and somewhat bizarrely, have lots of nice shoes.
 
It may be more appropriate that Thanksgiving should be in honour of the well-travelled local who saved their arses (I'm still not going to google his name because I'm determined to remember it myself). A most fitting example of multi-national and multi-cultural understanding and co-operation.
 
 
 
/rantfromasentientmemberofthehumanrace
 
< hat tip > well said sir.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:28pm

hey Glenn - bite my shiny metal ass. {#Moon}
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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:20pm

 ptooey wrote:

Completely random aside:  I grew up right outside of the rez, and went to high school with a Native American guy who would not admit that he needed glasses.  Yeah, probably not the most politically correct thing, but everyone called him Squinto.
 
Excellent rant, HJ.
 
{#Lol}

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:20pm

 OlderThanDirt wrote:

Squanto {#Wink}

 
That's it. I learned it on cash cab! {#Lol}
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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:16pm

 OlderThanDirt wrote:

Squanto {#Wink}

 
Completely random aside:  I grew up right outside of the rez, and went to high school with a Native American guy who would not admit that he needed glasses.  Yeah, probably not the most politically correct thing, but everyone called him Squinto.
 
Excellent rant, HJ.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:13pm

 hobiejoe wrote:

Hmmmph. I suppose my hackles were raised un petit peu when at about 23 seconds in the stentorious voice over mentioned that "faith has driven us to become the greatest people the world has ever known"
 
Oh, OK then.
 
 {#Yell} Hey guys, yes you, the people who think that "faith has driven us to become the greatest people the world has ever known", we-ell, there are quiet a few of us, not many, just a few billion of us who don't quite agree? Those of us who've created the classical myths, calculated the diameter of the Earth thousands of years ago using geometry a big stick and two shadows, honed the science of mathematics in the middle east - introduced the concept of 'zero', fermented wine 5000 years ago in the city of Shiraz, plotted the passage of the stars across the skies before most of you even think the universe was created and on, and on, and on.
 
FFS, your biggest heroes, the Pilgrim Fathers, wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for the fact that the idiots who crammed themselves into one tiny vessel, the Mayflower, because the other vessel they chartered, the Speedwell, was such a pile of shite that it couldn't leave Plymouth, met a native American, whose name escapes me, but I'm mid-rant, google it yourself, spoke English on account of having been in London for many years, and helped them survive. I believe turkeys may have been involved.
 
They had no agricultural implements to speak of, they had little fishing tackle although they did, apparently and somewhat bizarrely, have lots of nice shoes.
 
It may be more appropriate that Thanksgiving should be in honour of the well-travelled local who saved their arses (I'm still not going to google his name because I'm determined to remember it myself). A most fitting example of multi-national and multi-cultural understanding and co-operation.
 
 
 
/rantfromasentientmemberofthehumanrace
 
That would be Samoset. Or Squanto. I forget.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 5:11pm

 hobiejoe wrote:
 
It may be more appropriate that Thanksgiving should be in honour of the well-travelled local who saved their arses (I'm still not going to google his name because I'm determined to remember it myself). A most fitting example of multi-national and multi-cultural understanding and co-operation.
 
 
 
/rantfromasentientmemberofthehumanrace
 
Squanto {#Wink}
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