However I think this destruction would take place regardless of the verdict because really that is the ultimate goal of those pulling the strings of the disaffected anyway.
Who are those pulling the string...and why do they want to destroy property regardless of the verdict?
It is not hard to find this information if you really want it, but you don't. As a matter of fact I have already posted numerous articles and videos that addresses this explicitly (perhaps more than many here would like, I get it).
However I think this destruction would take place regardless of the verdict because really that is the ultimate goal of those pulling the strings of the disaffected anyway.
Who are those pulling the string...and why do they want to destroy property regardless of the verdict?
This is a real problem. I don't see any way a reasonable trial can even take place. Thanks to the judge for not implementing a full sequester and of course the irresponsible rhetoric of Maxine Waters and the woke media. It does not take a lawyer to realize this may be headed for a mistrial. I think destruction and mayhem are the only certainties. However I think this destruction would take place regardless of the verdict because really that is the ultimate goal of those pulling the strings of the disaffected anyway. May as well just brace yourselves especially if you are in an urban center.
"True. I'd add Kurtster to that list, even though I just posted a massive response to one of his BS screeds.
I think we're all confident that KK and Ohmsen are paid shills. Kurt doesn't seem to be. But I'm coming to the conclusion that Kurt doesn't give a crap about American democracy as long as Trump is in power."
kurtster wrote:
Yeah ? Please explain why.
And I don't see you even willing to listen to anything that disagrees with your own conclusions. Anything that goes against your conclusions you seem to regard as an outright lie and not subject to any further debate or discussion. You seem to have a file of ready made rebuttals that supports your beliefs and use them over and over again even though many are so old that they have been superseded by new information.
But do not respond because I am on your list. Don't want you to be a hypocrite or anything ...
Why do I believe that you don't give a crap about American democracy as long as Trump is in power? Because you're willing to tolerate, believe and promote Trump's lies, especially the ones that he spouted in order to hold onto power—even after it was clear to everyone that he lost a free and fair election, and that there was no widespread election fraud.
Trump does not believe in facts or truth. He'll use them if they can be shaped to support himself and his worldview, but by and large he doesn't live in a fact-based world.
AFAICT you're willing to follow Trump even when it means that you have to ignore and/or reject facts. If Trump says that the pandemic is about to end, you'll downplay the pandemic or decline to discuss it. When the election was first called for Biden, you graciously accepted it and the two of us exchanged some nice words about hoping the best for the country. But when Trump started to talk up election fraud, you jumped on that bandwagon. You praised Sidney Powell and posted about manipulated vote counts.
You tried to pass off the storming of the Capitol building as no big thing, even though Trump clearly incited the crowd of his supporters to overturn our democracy. If Trump had been able to pull off that act of insurrection and hold onto power, I firmly believe you'd be all for it.
Given a death-struggle between Trump and our constitutional republic, I believe you'd side with Trump every time. You want Trump to maintain and/or restore your notion of what America should look like even at the expense of the very essence of the USA—its Constitution.
"Anything that goes against your conclusions you seem to regard as an outright lie and not subject to any further debate or discussion."
Kurt, if you argue against my conclusions with facts and supporting evidence from credible sources, I will give your arguments strong consideration. When it's appropriate, I will admit I was wrong. EG: in one argument I stated that Americans didn't feel better off during Trump's admin than they did before his admin. You pointed me to a Gallup poll that contradicted my assessment. I admitted I was wrong.
Facts, Kurt. Supporting evidence from credible sources. Check 'em out.
"You seem to have a file of ready made rebuttals that supports your beliefs"
I get the feeling that I read a lot more newspaper articles and op-eds than you do. There are many news sources that you could turn to when you want to test your beliefs against facts.
If you find that my "file of ready made rebuttals" is no longer up-to-date or relevant, feel free to point that out to me. But use facts and fact-based sources.
"But do not respond because I am on your list."
How's the view from your perch on the crucifix?
Do you ever get tired of sobbing about being the victim?
So what? Was John Sullivan in charge of the mob that stormed the Capitol? Was he a leader or organizer of others? Was Sullivan part of a group of Antifa activists that tried to take over the Capitol and pass the blame onto Trump supporters? Looks like no:
While the vast majority of the roughly 100 people hit with federal charges appear to be supporters of President Donald Trump and some backed known right-wing organizations, Sullivan is the first person to be charged who appears to have been active in liberal causes.
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
True. I'd add Kurtster to that list, even though I just posted a massive response to one of his BS screeds.
I think we're all confident that KK and Ohmsen are paid shills. Kurt doesn't seem to be. But I'm coming to the conclusion that Kurt doesn't give a crap about American democracy as long as Trump is in power.
Yeah ? Please explain why.
And I don't see you even willing to listen to anything that disagrees with your own conclusions. Anything that goes against your conclusions you seem to regard as an outright lie and not subject to any further debate or discussion. You seem to have a file of ready made rebuttals that supports your beliefs and use them over and over again even though many are so old that they have been superseded by new information.
But do not respond because I am on your list. Don't want you to be a hypocrite or anything ...
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
There was plenty of war talk at a pro-Trump rally on Jan. 5, the day before the violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, but nobodyâs bluster beat that of Bikers for Trump founder Chris Cox, who said the country is âon the brink of a revolutionâ and offered to âtake the first bullet.â
Cox said Bikers for Trump exists âfor the sole purpose of seeing Donald Trump elected in 2020.â
Hereâs part of what Cox told the crowd:
Folks, weâre on the brink of socialism, which is the Venus flytrap for any democracy, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And if any of those things ring true to you, then you better step up right now because weâre on the brink of a revolution.
And I, for one, will take the first bullet. If thereâs anybody out there from antifa or Black Lives Matters, spend your first fuckinâ bullet in my chest, OK?
Because patriots will step up and we will fill those gaps and we will hold that line. And you got my word. Weâre pushing 400,000 members in the Bikers for Trump. Weâre one of the fastest growing organizations in the country. And we donât slow down, we double down, and weâve been doubling down in Georgia. Weâve been doubling down in Philadelphia, and weâre just getting started here, folks.
Right now, there is a major assault on decency. They want your Bible. They want your babies. And they want your bullets. OK? We have grandfathers and great-grandfathers and uncles that died, that gave limbs, that are living on respirators, that died for us and spilled blood. Now itâs up to us here in the continental USA, in domestic America, to stand up for the sacrifices that they made.
And I, for one, will stand up, and again, antifa, if youâre out here and youâre hidinâ, Black Lives Matters, if youâre hidinâ, start with me, Chris Cox, Bikers for Trump. Thanks, everybody. Hats off! Donald Trump 2020!
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
this brings up a coffee thought
is it always easy to distinguish a troll from a legit poster? not always but most of the time it is
i very rarely see people seriously interested in understanding or engaging someone with political differences these days
at this point i see partisan material that may demonize/dehumanize people that we don't agree with on political issues
who doesn't want to get that sick one liner burn in and frame someone who thinks differently as a buffoon?
we have all done it and some of us fall back into it from time to time (we're human - it happens)
what if we couldn't use violence or coercion to enforce our political goals on other peaceful people?
what if we had to talk to each other and not past each other? what if you or i were in charge of building a peaceful solution?
how would we go about reconciling differences? finding common ground? reaching an intelligent sustainable solution?
i doubt people will watch this video, maybe it is too long or they just are not as serious as they thought about understanding and getting along with others
not sure but i let it play in the background and found it interesting
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
True. I'd add Kurtster to that list, even though I just posted a massive response to one of his BS screeds.
I think we're all confident that KK and Ohmsen are paid shills. Kurt doesn't seem to be. But I'm coming to the conclusion that Kurt doesn't give a crap about American democracy as long as Trump is in power.
I think that arguing/debating with KK and Ohmsen is a massive waste of electrons. There is no changing their mind with reasoned arguments, and it only encourages them to post their nonsense.
So what? Was John Sullivan in charge of the mob that stormed the Capitol? Was he a leader or organizer of others? Was Sullivan part of a group of Antifa activists that tried to take over the Capitol and pass the blame onto Trump supporters? Looks like no:
While the vast majority of the roughly 100 people hit with federal charges appear to be supporters of President Donald Trump and some backed known right-wing organizations, Sullivan is the first person to be charged who appears to have been active in liberal causes.
You might want to read the charge documents and check out some videos readily available of the guy before you kneejerk post contrary info.
Or, NAH.
You got so excited you forgot the link for your screaming headline? I do hope you washed your hands...
My link has verified information (and those videos). No froth...
My links go to DOJ charging docs along with photos & vids of the crime in progress.
But nah. ¯_(ã)_/¯
No one is arguing he wasn't there.
As usual though, your conclusions (and those of frothy pundits) are another matter. Still trying really hard to create a false narrative. It's Them. Not Us.
