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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 12:17pm

 islander wrote:
About as funny as watching the "free markets forever" crowd coming around to 'well sure, some protectionism'.  (...)

And 'some sanctions'.
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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 12:11pm

 rgio wrote:
The shear stupidity on display right now in the White House would make any reasonable person, company, or political party appear to endorse capitalism and free trade.  

I rest my case.

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 12:09pm

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It's hilarious watching Democrats suddenly in favor of free trade and quoting Reagan.

When Biden took over from Trump in 2020 he left all Trump's ridiculous anti-prosperity no-good tariffs in place. All of them.

Assuming Trump ruins the Republican brand for a generation (which it seems he's on track to do) and a Democratic regime is swept into power will this recent endorsement of capitalism last? History is not encouraging.




About as funny as watching the "free markets forever" crowd coming around to 'well sure, some protectionism'.  Almost as good as checking back on all the "he's just joking, he would never do blanket tariffs, that would be market suicide' tweets from last fall (or last week). 

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 11:57am

 Lazy8 wrote:

It's hilarious watching Democrats suddenly in favor of free trade and quoting Reagan.

When Biden took over from Trump in 2020 he left all Trump's ridiculous anti-prosperity no-good tariffs in place. All of them.

Assuming Trump ruins the Republican brand for a generation (which it seems he's on track to do) and a Democratic regime is swept into power will this recent endorsement of capitalism last? History is not encouraging.


As a fiscal conservative, I'd spent the years up to Trump 1.0 on the Republican side...free trade, lower debt.  As much as I favored the ideals of the right, the reality of the US is that financially we've done better under Democrats than Republicans.  A few data points...

• GDP Growth: Real GDP has grown about 1.6 times faster under Democratic presidents than Republican ones. From 1949 to 2023, average annual GDP growth was 3.79% under Democrats compared to 2.60% under Republicans.
• Job Creation: Democrats have historically overseen faster job creation, with an annual growth rate of 2.5%, compared to just over 1% under Republicans.
• Unemployment: The unemployment rate has tended to decrease under Democratic administrations and increase under Republican ones.
• Stock Market Returns: Stock market performance has been stronger on average during Democratic presidencies.

I think the Dems are rational and intelligent enough to appreciate that the notion of domestic US manufacturing is foolish.  It can't happen.  It's not gonna happen now.  I agree that there are national security businesses (medicines, chips, etc.) that need to be available in times of a global crisis, but focus on those and leave the markets to themselves.

An iPhone has between 200 and 300 companies involved in the supply chain.  Those companies cannot, and will not, come to the US to manufacture...so either we have $5,000 iPhones or companies will find a way around the supply chain and tariffs.  

The shear stupidity on display right now in the White House would make any reasonable person, company, or political party appear to endorse capitalism and free trade.  
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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 11:19am


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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 11:05am

 Lazy8 wrote:

It's hilarious watching Democrats suddenly in favor of free trade and quoting Reagan.

When Biden took over from Trump in 2020 he left all Trump's ridiculous anti-prosperity no-good tariffs in place. All of them.

Assuming Trump ruins the Republican brand for a generation (which it seems he's on track to do) and a Democratic regime is swept into power will this recent endorsement of capitalism last? History is not encouraging.



Cherry picking? Us? NEVER! :-p 


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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 10:35am

It's hilarious watching Democrats suddenly in favor of free trade and quoting Reagan.

When Biden took over from Trump in 2020 he left all Trump's ridiculous anti-prosperity no-good tariffs in place. All of them.

Assuming Trump ruins the Republican brand for a generation (which it seems he's on track to do) and a Democratic regime is swept into power will this recent endorsement of capitalism last? History is not encouraging.
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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 10:01am

 geoff_morphini wrote:
https://substack.com/@marketse...

the words of Ronald Reagan on tariffs


Full transcript: "protectionist legislation that destroys prosperity"

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 9:48am

https://substack.com/@marketse...

the words of Ronald Reagan on tariffs
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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 4:17pm


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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 10:03am

 kurtster wrote:

and then you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat.


Well, as of today you can only have 90% of your retirement pudding.
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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 9:28am

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Children of the world dream of peace
 
and then you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat.
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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 6:40am

Children of the world dream of peace
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Posted: Apr 2, 2025 - 8:51pm

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Hey Dave, what about this one ?  The Denver Airport.

They're everywhere, Dave.  You can run but you cannot hide.

They're gonna get you, and when they do ...  bwah hah hah hah ... 
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and inside, too !


sleep well, mien liebchen

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Posted: Apr 2, 2025 - 7:02pm

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As opposed to them really being shocked, remorseful, apologetic, and work super extra hard to never accidentally be offensive like that again. 
Now imagine you’re a T administration diplomat threading the needle as you go to other cultures with their varying ways of protocol and behaving…but this clueless as to what’s offensive.
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Posted: Apr 2, 2025 - 4:36pm


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Posted: Apr 2, 2025 - 10:21am

Unmarked Vans. Secret Lists. Public Denunciations. Our Police State Has Arrived. (gift article)
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Posted: Apr 1, 2025 - 3:38pm

So to defend the disappearing of regime critics, JD Vance came out and lied that a Biden immigration judge in 2019 (before Biden was in office) had determined that the person Trump just sent to a gulag was an MS-13 member.

All of that is false. Every single bit of it is false. He's lying.

Which just, again, makes the point that shouldn't even need to be made: we have process protections precisely BECAUSE we can't have a system where your guilt or innocence is determined by the personal opinion of one corrupt couch-fucker.

But honestly, I really need some evidence that there's even a point in explaining this to people. If you REALLY, as an adult human, need it explained to you why the U.S. government should not be able to just disappear people without any process or any recourse, you're just a fascist and are not worth engaging with.

~Adam Bates
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