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Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 25, 2024 - 5:52am

Hmm. Kamala goes for The Up, but TFG has a different tone. For a moment ignoring policies (which are really what we should be focusing on)...

islander

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Posted: Sep 24, 2024 - 8:31pm

 rgio wrote:

Why would his basis be in the 60s?  It would be on any actual money invested (which we know is zero), and any value of contribution to the Trump Media company before the merger (which was likely nothing...but he'll claim brand value or some intangible value).

He could have made an 83(b) election...but I doubt he'd "prepay" any taxes...since he never pays them.

He's in a really interesting position...because he says he doesn't need the money, but it seems unlikely it will ever be worth more.  Meanwhile Melania is out giving a speech for $240k...paid by his campaign (thank you donors).  



Typically an ipo will give you a step up basis. Normally used to offset gains.  Here, I assume (not a cpa) that if you sold, the ipo basis would provide a handy loss to offset any other tax obligations. He can still pocket hundreds of millions (maybe), and shield other gains (like selling a skyscraper to pay off legal claims). This would be as legit as his accounting has ever been.
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Posted: Sep 24, 2024 - 10:07am

 islander wrote:

DJT stock price dipped into the 11s this morning before recovering to low/mid 12s.  I think his basis is in the high 60s, so if he has seen a value loss of nearly 6 billion dollars this year. If he managed to sell it off at this level, he really wouldn't need to pay taxes for a while!


Why would his basis be in the 60s?  It would be on any actual money invested (which we know is zero), and any value of contribution to the Trump Media company before the merger (which was likely nothing...but he'll claim brand value or some intangible value).

He could have made an 83(b) election...but I doubt he'd "prepay" any taxes...since he never pays them.

He's in a really interesting position...because he says he doesn't need the money, but it seems unlikely it will ever be worth more.  Meanwhile Melania is out giving a speech for $240k...paid by his campaign (thank you donors).  

islander

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Posted: Sep 24, 2024 - 8:39am

DJT stock price dipped into the 11s this morning before recovering to low/mid 12s.  I think his basis is in the high 60s, so if he has seen a value loss of nearly 6 billion dollars this year. If he managed to sell it off at this level, he really wouldn't need to pay taxes for a while!
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Posted: Sep 24, 2024 - 6:20am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


learned a word today


how about learning to recycle your belly button lint?
pass it on...


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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 10:02pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i was labeled an omphalopsychite in the third grade
i still practice..


learned a word today
Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 6:37pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


A bit surprised that a coach would count those words in his vocabulary.

That's what made it so amazingly unexpected.
And, no lie, he looked like Bill Cosby (thin days). In the early 70s, that was pretty cool.

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 6:01pm

 Steely_D wrote:

One time our junior high coach looked over at the two troublemakers and told us, "Steely, you and Carter are mundane and supercilious!" which has become one of my favorite insults.


A bit surprised that a coach would count those words in his vocabulary.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 5:19pm

 Beaker wrote:


Could be a lucrative gig !  So long as it's just staring ...

Local asshat:
"He became known for weekly meetings in which he would stare silently at his followers for long periods of time."







Yeah. He seems to be a practitioner. A useful tool. It's all the rage in a self-service world type scenario.
Some tricks should wear out their unwelcome.

He has described himself as the "living embodiment of truth", urging his thousands of devoted followers to understand life's meaning through "core-splitting honesty"

Yikes

So he calls his book "Unveiling Reality". I read some at the site for his book. Certainly not Christian. Kinda new age maybe? Out of my trajectory. We need experts.

Fairly convoluted thinking, and I know convoluted when I seizure it, but I digress. This is the Trump thread so maybe not so anyway all mitts are catchers.


Source. It's what's for supper.





Beaker

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 5:07pm

 oldviolin wrote:


Heeeey who you callin' a wise guy? 



Could be a lucrative gig !  So long as it's just staring ...

Local asshat:
"He became known for weekly meetings in which he would stare silently at his followers for long periods of time."


oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 5:04pm

 Beaker wrote:


There are cult leaders who use that skill!  


Heeeey who you callin' a wise guy? 
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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 5:03pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i was labeled an omphalopsychite in the third grade
i still practice..


There are cult leaders who use that skill!  
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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 4:45pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i was labeled an omphalopsychite in the third grade
i still practice..


I like oranges
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 4:26pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i was labeled an omphalopsychite in the third grade
i still practice..




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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 3:47pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i was labeled an omphalopsychite in the third grade
i still practice..

One time our junior high coach looked over at the two troublemakers and told us, "Steely, you and Carter are mundane and supercilious!" which has become one of my favorite insults.
VV

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 3:33pm

 Beaker wrote:


errr  have you watched an interview with Kamala ? 


err... Yes, I have... no comparison... can't make any sense of Trump probably 90% of the time (if I'm being generous). 

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 3:22pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I would've gone for "dipshit" but the judges will allow it

i was labeled an omphalopsychite in the third grade
i still practice..
Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 3:06pm

 kcar wrote:


"Pointless" describes your very existence. 


I would've gone for "dipshit" but the judges will allow it
kcar

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 3:01pm

 Beaker wrote:


Non-sequitur is your middle name.


"Pointless" describes your very existence. 
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 23, 2024 - 2:18pm

 Isabeau wrote:


Her degrees are in political science and economics, and has a juris doctorate.

He threatened to sue his college if they released his GPA.


Non-sequitur is your middle name.
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