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Posted: Jun 1, 2011 - 6:16pm

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
How come no one is talking about this ruling handed down last week ? 

The left got its wish by putting businesses on the defensive over hiring illegals, a major point of the left in the debate over solving illegal immigration.  In fact many on the left here have supported the notion that scrutinizing businesses should be the first action taken in slowing down the things that draw illegals here. 

Where is the celebration ?  The law was even signed into law by then Arizona governor and now HLS chief, Janet Napolitano. 

The silence is deafening ...

High court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

Our newest Justice, Kagan, recused herself because she was the solicitor for the administration, but is not planning on recusing herself when Obama's HC Bill arrives for a ruling, even though she advised on the construction of the Bill.

Kurt, Kurt, Kurt... this is not a 'left' agenda. It is a reasonable approach to one very important element of the illegal immigration problem. Indeed, it is supported here, in Arizona, by the Right equally. No, not by the Corportocracy, it is true... because there are profits to be had from hiring illegals for sub-humane wages, paying no withholding taxes, contributing nothing into the Social Security fund, Unemployment dues and a host of other thefts from the commonweal by these corporations. That is right, they are stealing it from you, the American taxpayer. And, as a consequence, the hired illegals are not contributing to the common kitty either. No, it is not a 'left' agenda, it is an American, patriotic agenda. It is an important piece in the handling of the problem of illegal immigration. You know... that problem that has you so concerned so much of the time.

 
Quite frankly, I am thrilled with this ruling for the reasons you stated above.  Its right for the right reasons.  And it also reinforces State's Rights and the 10th as well.

I admit to the cheap shot on the left, but the silence over this ruling everywhere has had me a bit mystified, and as we know that doesn't take too much to accomplish.  {#Wink}

hippiechick

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Posted: Jun 1, 2011 - 6:12pm

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
How come no one is talking about this ruling handed down last week ? 

The left got its wish by putting businesses on the defensive over hiring illegals, a major point of the left in the debate over solving illegal immigration.  In fact many on the left here have supported the notion that scrutinizing businesses should be the first action taken in slowing down the things that draw illegals here. 

Where is the celebration ?  The law was even signed into law by then Arizona governor and now HLS chief, Janet Napolitano. 

The silence is deafening ...

High court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

Our newest Justice, Kagan, recused herself because she was the solicitor for the administration, but is not planning on recusing herself when Obama's HC Bill arrives for a ruling, even though she advised on the construction of the Bill.

Kurt, Kurt, Kurt... this is not a 'left' agenda. It is a reasonable approach to one very important element of the illegal immigration problem. Indeed, it is supported here, in Arizona, by the Right equally. No, not by the Corportocracy, it is true... because there are profits to be had from hiring illegals for sub-humane wages, paying no withholding taxes, contributing nothing into the Social Security fund, Unemployment dues and a host of other thefts from the commonweal by these corporations. That is right, they are stealing it from you, the American taxpayer. And, as a consequence, the hired illegals are not contributing to the common kitty either. No, it is not a 'left' agenda, it is an American, patriotic agenda. It is an important piece in the handling of the problem of illegal immigration. You know... that problem that has you so concerned so much of the time.

 
Well said

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Posted: Jun 1, 2011 - 6:07pm

 kurtster wrote:
How come no one is talking about this ruling handed down last week ? 

The left got its wish by putting businesses on the defensive over hiring illegals, a major point of the left in the debate over solving illegal immigration.  In fact many on the left here have supported the notion that scrutinizing businesses should be the first action taken in slowing down the things that draw illegals here. 

Where is the celebration ?  The law was even signed into law by then Arizona governor and now HLS chief, Janet Napolitano. 

The silence is deafening ...

High court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

Our newest Justice, Kagan, recused herself because she was the solicitor for the administration, but is not planning on recusing herself when Obama's HC Bill arrives for a ruling, even though she advised on the construction of the Bill.

Kurt, Kurt, Kurt... this is not a 'left' agenda. It is a reasonable approach to one very important element of the illegal immigration problem. Indeed, it is supported here, in Arizona, by the Right equally. No, not by the Corportocracy, it is true... because there are profits to be had from hiring illegals for sub-humane wages, paying no withholding taxes, contributing nothing into the Social Security fund, Unemployment dues and a host of other thefts from the commonweal by these corporations. That is right, they are stealing it from you, the American taxpayer. And, as a consequence, the hired illegals are not contributing to the common kitty either. No, it is not a 'left' agenda, it is an American, patriotic agenda. It is an important piece in the handling of the problem of illegal immigration. You know... that problem that has you so concerned so much of the time.


hippiechick

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Posted: Jun 1, 2011 - 6:05pm

 kurtster wrote:
How come no one is talking about this ruling handed down last week ? 

The left got its wish by putting businesses on the defensive over hiring illegals, a major point of the left in the debate over solving illegal immigration.  In fact many on the left here have supported the notion that scrutinizing businesses should be the first action taken in slowing down the things that draw illegals here. 

Where is the celebration ?  The law was even signed into law by then Arizona governor and now HLS chief, Janet Napolitano. 

The silence is deafening ...

High court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

Our newest Justice, Kagan, recused herself because she was the solicitor for the administration, but is not planning on recusing herself when Obama's HC Bill arrives for a ruling, even though she advised on the construction of the Bill.
 
Well, good! Businesses should be punished for hiring illegals. They send buses to the border and cart them in and make slaves out of them.

kurtster

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Posted: Jun 1, 2011 - 5:58pm

How come no one is talking about this ruling handed down last week ? 

The left got its wish by putting businesses on the defensive over hiring illegals, a major point of the left in the debate over solving illegal immigration.  In fact many on the left here have supported the notion that scrutinizing businesses should be the first action taken in slowing down the things that draw illegals here. 

Where is the celebration ?  The law was even signed into law by then Arizona governor and now HLS chief, Janet Napolitano. 

The silence is deafening ...

High court backs Arizona immigration law that punishes businesses

Our newest Justice, Kagan, recused herself because she was the solicitor for the administration, but is not planning on recusing herself when Obama's HC Bill arrives for a ruling, even though she advised on the construction of the Bill.


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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 11:32am

 romeotuma wrote:

Does your use of passive voice mean you speak for the Silent Majority?

 

 
No  just speaking for myself.

Is there a reason you are sounding confrontational about this?  Or am I misinterpreting?

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 11:24am

 romeotuma wrote:

Actually, I have multitudinous points...  first, let me mention in passing, this forum says Supreme Court Rulings, not Only Supreme Court Rulings for 2010, so I am on subject for the forum...

second, I was demonstrating that the Supreme Court is not infallible...

third, first it was slaves, then it was the children, now it is the illegal aliens who pick our cotton and vegetables for cheap pay...  the child labor law revoked by the Supreme Court was mostly about kids picking cotton...

yet many xenophobic Americans express vitriol to the contemporary illegal alien workers who provide their cheap food and fabric in the current postmodern world...

fourth, I was just pointing out facts in history and letting them speak for themselves...


 
All good points but none that could be discerned from your original post.

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 11:09am

 romeotuma wrote:
Um, yeah...in 1918, reversed in 1941. Did you have a point or something?

kurtster

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:26am

 hippie wrote:


Anyone know if she plays golf? {#Roflol}

Hey look over there, a squirrel.
{#Cowboy}

 



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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:24am

 kurtster wrote:

Yes.

It does not serve the best interest of the country to appoint a Justice that cannot fully participate.  She already had to leave the chambers this AM for the second case being presented.
  

Although the most recusals in a first term would apply to a Solicitor General, the principle would spread further than that — for instance, folk considered and/or nominated by Geoerge W. Bush had been serving in his administration in legal capacities that likely would have required them to recuse themselves from numerous cases in first term (Former AG Gonzalez, former President's counsel Meiers).

There also have been a lot of Justices who ascended from the Circuit Courts of Appeals, most notably from the D.C. Circuit, from which Chief Justice Roberts came.  As a result, these newly minted Justices have to recuse themselves from cases decided by them in that capacity.  I doubt that anyone wants to exclude Circuit Court judges from serving on the Supreme Court unless they first resign from the bench and do somethng else for a few years.    

Less problematic, but still a source of recusals would be an academic (e.g., law professor) who has opined definitively on an issue before the court.          

So, a slippery slope . . .


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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:21am

 kurtster wrote:

Yes.

It does not serve the best interest of the country to appoint a Justice that cannot fully participate.  She already had to leave the chambers this AM for the second case being presented.


 

Anyone know if she plays golf? {#Roflol}

Hey look over there, a squirrel.


{#Cowboy}
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:15am

 steeler wrote:


This is primarily due to the fact she served as Solicitor General.  Can't argue the cases (even if you did not physically appear before the Court in each of them) and decide them. 

Are you arguing that a recent Solicitor General should be disqualified from consideration until enough time has passed to eliminate recusals?

  

  

 
Yes.

It does not serve the best interest of the country to appoint a Justice that cannot fully participate.  She already had to leave the chambers this AM for the second case being presented.

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:14am

 melissab wrote:

Hiya sweetie, how you?

 

Horny. {#Mrgreen}
{#Hug}{#Kiss}


{#Cowboy}
steeler

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:12am

 kurtster wrote:
Oh goody, the SCOTUS has started its fall session today.

BHO's wisdom shines through once again as his latest appointment, Justice Kagan has already agreed to recuse herself on 25 of the so far 53 cases on the dockett.  The potential for 4 - 4 ties now exists, with no ruling letting the lower court's opinion stand.

Why appoint someone who cannot fully participate ?  This was bought up during her confirmation, yet it went through anyway.  Is this a new way to stack the court ?

Perhaps it was in anticipation of an unusually heavy case load of States challenging the Federal Government such as Arizona HB 1070 and Obamacare.  HB 1070 goes through the most decidedly liberal 9th Circuit and a ruling against Arizona in the 9th could end up standing due to a tie.  Perhaps the same outcome on the challenges to Obamacare.

This country has been robbed once again of due process by default and poor judgement.  But that's only my opinion.

 

This is primarily due to the fact she served as Solicitor General.  Can't argue the cases (even if you did not physically appear before the Court in each of them) and decide them. 

Are you arguing that a recent Solicitor General should be disqualified from consideration until enough time has passed to eliminate recusals?

  

  
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:11am

 hippiechick wrote:

I see you have been watching Fox again
 
As evidently, do you.

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:10am

 hippie wrote:


Just like you read Huffington Post 24/7 and link to the every chance you get.

{#Cowboy}
 
Hiya sweetie, how you?
hippie

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:08am

 hippiechick wrote:

I see you have been watching Fox again
 

Just like you read Huffington Post 24/7 and link to the every chance you get.

{#Cowboy}
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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:07am

 kurtster wrote:

Who appoints the temporary Justice ?  That could lead to whomever is in charge finding the right one to support the ruling desired.  That is not good.  It would cast to much doubt on the integrity on decisions.

We elect ours here in Ohio as well, BTW.  I know one of ours personally.  Hope I never get in a situation where I have to look at him from across the bench.{#Mrgreen}
  I don't know how they're suggesting the Justice pro tem would be appointed. Maybe on a rotating schedule. If they had to go through Congressional approval, there'd be gridlock. Well, even MORE gridlock.

hippiechick

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:04am

 kurtster wrote:
Oh goody, the SCOTUS has started its fall session today.

BHO's wisdom shines through once again as his latest appointment, Justice Kagan has already agreed to recuse herself on 25 of the so far 53 cases on the dockett.  The potential for 4 - 4 ties now exists, with no ruling letting the lower court's opinion stand.

Why appoint someone who cannot fully participate ?  This was bought up during her confirmation, yet it went through anyway.  Is this a new way to stack the court ?

Perhaps it was in anticipation of an unusually heavy case load of States challenging the Federal Government such as Arizona HB 1070 and Obamacare.  HB 1070 goes through the most decidedly liberal 9th Circuit and a ruling against Arizona in the 9th could end up standing due to a tie.  Perhaps the same outcome on the challenges to Obamacare.

This country has been robbed once again of due process by default and poor judgement.  But that's only my opinion.

 
I see you have been watching Fox again

kurtster

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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 - 10:00am

 cc_rider wrote:

There is some noise being made about temporarily appointing retired Justices to serve in such instances. Makes sense to me.

At least she had the decency to recuse herself. In Texas, judges have no compunction ruling on cases in which they have vested financial interest. Course, we elect them too, so we get what we deserve, huh?
 
Who appoints the temporary Justice ?  That could lead to whomever is in charge finding the right one to support the ruling desired.  That is not good.  It would cast to much doubt on the integrity on decisions.

We elect ours here in Ohio as well, BTW.  I know one of ours personally.  Hope I never get in a situation where I have to look at him from across the bench.{#Mrgreen}

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