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Posted: Sep 16, 2024 - 5:30am

 sirdroseph wrote:



one of the things we all should be aware of is the RSF index
toward the top are generally places where you would want to live 
have a look at the bottom of that list
chomsky has enjoyed the luxury of criticizing his government for decades
 

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Posted: Aug 8, 2024 - 11:55am

The usual disconnect

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 3:31pm

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I would hope Hedges' point here is not that they should be silenced, but that no one should.

Serves as a warning: if you are creating content don't let the platform hosting it be your only archive.

He has repeatedly made the point that he considers himself silenced by the New War Times. I don't think he approves of such censorship.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 3:07pm

 R_P wrote:
As Hedges points out (and has in the past) there is plenty of propaganda in the NYT (and other Western media) on a daily basis, however those won't/can't get silenced.

I would hope Hedges' point here is not that they should be silenced, but that no one should.

Serves as a warning: if you are creating content don't let the platform hosting it be your only archive.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 1:17pm

 Proclivities wrote:
Yes, it's ambiguous wording.  I could presume that "entire video archive" means every video he's ever been associated with (in entirety), not just his RT show.  It seems like deception by omission, but maybe I just take words like "entire" more literally than I ought to.

RT has been cancelled and that means shows with Hedges, Lee Camp, Shatner, etc. vanished down the memory hole.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 1:13pm

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Except that's not what he said.

He talked about Hedges' "entire video archive" which presumably means this. 300+ episodes he made for RT.

Hedges has no other account or other show that I know off, but obviously there are plenty of videos left with talks/lectures by him, or interviews with him by others. Those, however, are not his content.

Russia does it, so the EU, YouTube, etc. do it:
The website of the Current Time, a Russian TV channel launched by the
U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty that has been critical of
the Kremlin, became unavailable Sunday after the channel reported
receiving a notification from the authorities.


Yes, it's ambiguous wording.  I could presume that "entire video archive" means every video he's ever been associated with (in entirety), not just his RT show.  It seems like deception by omission, but maybe I just take words like "entire" more literally than I ought to.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 12:24pm

 Proclivities wrote:
The tweet from Steven Donziger is clearly misleading (deliberate or not) in not mentioning RT at all, and inaccurately claiming that all of Hedges' content had been blocked - or as you put it, it was: "meant to enrage and upset without clearly explaining the reason".

Except that's not what he said.

He talked about Hedges' "entire video archive" which presumably means this. 300+ episodes he made for RT.

Hedges has no other account or other show that I know off, but obviously there are plenty of videos left with talks/lectures by him, or interviews with him by others. Those, however, are not his content.

Russia does it, so the EU, YouTube, etc. do it:
The website of the Current Time, a Russian TV channel launched by the
U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty that has been critical of
the Kremlin, became unavailable Sunday after the channel reported
receiving a notification from the authorities.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 12:10pm

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RT isn't showing anything that doesn't attack the US or attempt to make it look weak.  Hedges may have had some incredibly valid points on his shows, but he is guilty of propaganda by his association with RT.  

Hedges mentions RT upfront in his post, but the tweet conveniently ignores that and subtlely re-directs the censorship for the reader at Hedges and not RT.  The tweet is meant to enrage and upset without clearly explaining the reason for the removal from YouTube.  It works....which is why roughly half of one political party in the US still believes the election in 2020 was stolen.

The tweet from Steven Donziger is clearly misleading (deliberate or not) in not mentioning RT at all, and inaccurately claiming that all of Hedges' content had been blocked - or as you put it, it was: "meant to enrage and upset without clearly explaining the reason".
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:39am

 miamizsun wrote:
true, but they do get exposed and we can still call them out

Except where void.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:36am

 R_P wrote:

As Hedges points out (and has in the past) there is plenty of propaganda in the NYT (and other Western media) on a daily basis, however those won't/can't get silenced.



true, but they do get exposed and we can still call them out 
authoritarian regimes? not so much
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:34am

 R_P wrote:

As Hedges points out (and has in the past) there is plenty of propaganda in the NYT (and other Western media) on a daily basis, however those won't/can't get silenced.


I thought Lara Logan was a pretty good journalist for many years.  Now she seems to have lost touch with reality.  People change, or at least their focus does as they change jobs/employers.  


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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:32am

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I just searched "Chris Hedges" on youtube and there are plenty of videos...


i think this is regarding his show

"The entire archive of six years of my show On Contact has been removed by YouTube."
-CH

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:30am

As Hedges points out (and has in the past) there is plenty of propaganda in the NYT (and other Western media) on a daily basis, however those won't/can't get silenced.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:29am

 rgio wrote:

Do you know if this is the good...non-propaganda stuff that RT puts out?  If they (RT) are blocked for propaganda, they're blocked. 

Arguing censorship on total BS is a bit like suggesting Twitter censored Trump because they didn't keep the 4 tweets where Trump told the truth.

For the record, for some reason, Mr. Hedges doesn't list his 6 years on RT in his bio...

Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper. He previously worked overseas for The Dallas Morning NewsThe Christian Science Monitor, and NPR. He is the host of show The Chris Hedges Report.



i appreciated hedges work as a war correspondent early in his career
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:23am

 Steely_D wrote:


It's stupid to "rebel" against science when the truth is right there, or - really - in the morgue.
That's not "free speech." It's ignorance and a temper tantrum.



How many Fully FDA approved drugs were subsequently withdrawn and taken off the market?

dozens / hundreds?

all previous pandemic drugs have been withdrawn

this is no different, eventually they will prohibit use of these vaccines that were designed (in 24 hours, remember!) For a specific 2019 Chinese coronavirus.

you gonna keep getting your tickets for an old touring concert that isn't even around anymore?

actually, this is an ongoing experiment, each batch is hand crafted for experimental goodness, each batch has widely different side effect outcomes. Several websites let you plug in your batch info and it gives you every reported adverse reaction that doctors and health workers documented, from VAERS and the European and UK adverse report databases, for your batch, usually it's just a few towns that get each batch. 


Oh and these hand crafted batches are not even FDA approved, they came in via the EUA, and the submitted documents they don't want to release. But you'll be fine.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:21am

 Proclivities wrote:

It's my understanding that YouTube has apparently blocked (or is in the process of blocking) all RT content, including Hedges' "On Contact" archive - which was distributed by RT.  They did not just single him out and they have not blocked out his other "non-RT' videos.  They already blocked RT, Sputnik, and other Russian state-owned-media content in Europe last week.  I doubt much of his program was overt "Russian propaganda" but it was carried by RT, which seems to be the reason that content is blocked.  It doesn't seem like a very logical idea to me, but there it is.

RT isn't showing anything that doesn't attack the US or attempt to make it look weak.  Hedges may have had some incredibly valid points on his shows, but he is guilty of propaganda by his association with RT.  

Hedges mentions RT upfront in his post, but the tweet conveniently ignores that and subtlely re-directs the censorship for the reader at Hedges and not RT.  The tweet is meant to enrage and upset without clearly explaining the reason for the removal from YouTube.  It works....which is why roughly half of one political party in the US still believes the election in 2020 was stolen.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:18am

 Animal-Farm wrote:


Btw Fox News required everyone all staff and talent to be injected multiple times

so there is no free-thinking or rebels at Fox News


geez, you can't trust anyone these days.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:16am

Hedges: On Being Disappeared

Editor 1 day ago


By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

The entire archive of On Contact, the Emmy-nominated show I hosted for six years for RT America and RT International, has been disappeared from YouTube. Gone is the interview with Nathaniel Philbrick on his book about George Washington. Gone is the discussion with Kai Bird on his biography of J. Robert Oppenheimer. Gone is my exploration with Professor Sam Slote from Trinity College Dublin of James Joyce’s “Ulysses.” Gone is the show with Benjamin Moser on his biography of Susan Sontag. Gone is the show with Stephen Kinzer on his book on John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles. Gone are the interviews with the social critics Cornel West, Tariq Ali, Noam Chomsky, Gerald Horne, Wendy Brown, Paul Street, Gabriel Rockwell, Naomi Wolff and Slavoj Zizek. Gone are the interviews with the novelists Russell Banks and Salar Abdoh. Gone is the interview with Kevin Sharp, a former federal judge, on the case of Leonard Peltier. Gone are the interviews with economists David Harvey and Richard Wolff. Gone are the interviews with the combat veterans and West Point graduates Danny Sjursen and Eric Edstrom about our wars in the Middle East. Gone are the discussions with the journalists Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi. Gone are the voices of those who are being persecuted and marginalized, including the human rights attorney Steven Donziger and the political prisoner Mumia Abu Jamal. None of the shows I did on mass incarceration, where I interviewed those released from our prisons, are any longer on YouTube. Gone are the shows with the cartoonists Joe Sacco and Dwayne Booth. Melted into thin air, leaving not a rack behind.

I received no inquiry or notice from YouTube. I vanished. In totalitarian systems you exist, then you don’t. I suppose this was done in the name of censoring Russian propaganda, although I have a hard time seeing how a detailed discussion of “Ulysses” or the biographies of Susan Sontag and J. Robert Oppenheimer had any connection in the eyes of the most obtuse censors in Silicon Valley with Vladimir Putin. Indeed, there is not one show that dealt with Russia. I was on RT because, as a vocal critic of US imperialism, militarism, the corporate control of the two ruling parties, and especially because I support the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement against Israel, I was blacklisted. I was on RT for the same reason the dissident Vaclav Havel, who I knew, was on Voice of America during the communist regime in Czechoslovakia. It was that or not be heard. Havel had no more love for the policies of Washington than I have for those of Moscow.

Are we a more informed and better society because of this wholesale censorship? Is this a world we want to inhabit where those who know everything about us and about whom we know nothing can instantly erase us? If this happens to me, it can happen to you, to any critic anywhere who challenges the dominant narrative. And that is where we are headed as the ruling elites refuse to respond to the disenfranchisement and suffering of the working class, opting not for social and political change or the curbing of the rapacious power and obscene wealth of our oligarchic rulers, but instead imposing iron control over information, as if that will solve the mounting social unrest and vast political and social divides.

The most vocal cheerleaders for this censorship are the liberal class. Terrified of the enraged crowds of QAnon conspiracy theorists, Christian fascists, gun-toting militias, and cult-like Trump supporters that grew out of the distortions of neoliberalism, austerity, deindustrialization, and the collapse of social programs, they plead with the digital monopolies to make it all go away. They blame anyone but themselves. Democrats in Congress have held hearings with the CEOs of social media companies pressuring them to do more to censor content. Banish the troglodytes. Then we will have social cohesion. Then life will go back to normal. Fake news. Harm reduction model. Information pollution. Information disorder. They have all sorts of Orwellian phrases to justify censorship. Meanwhile, they peddle their own fantasy that Russia was responsible for the election of Donald Trump. It is a stunning inability to be remotely self-reflective or self-critical, and it is ominous as we move deeper and deeper into a state of political and social dysfunction.

What were my sins? I did not, like my former employer, The New York Times, sell you the lie of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, peddle conspiracy theories about Donald Trump being a Russian asset, put out a 10-part podcast called the Caliphate that was a hoax, or tell you that the information on Hunter Biden’s laptop was “disinformation.” I did not prophesize that Joe Biden was the next FDR or that Hillary Clinton was going to win the election.

This censorship is about supporting what, as I.F Stone reminded us, governments always do – lie. Challenge the official lie, as I often did, and you will soon become a nonperson on digital media. Julian Assange and Edward Snowden exposed the truth about the criminal inner workings of power. Look where they are now. This censorship is one step removed from Joseph Stalin’s airbrushing of nonpersons such as Leon Trotsky out of official photographs. It is a destruction of our collective memory. It removes those moments in the media when we attempted to examine our reality in ways the ruling class did not appreciate. The goal is to foster historical amnesia. If we don’t know what happened in the past, we cannot make sense of the present.


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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 10:48am

 Animal-Farm wrote:
 there is no free-thinking or rebels at Fox News


It's stupid to "rebel" against science when the truth is right there, or - really - in the morgue.
That's not "free speech." It's ignorance and a temper tantrum.

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