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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 9:27am

 Lazy8 wrote:

This is a thoroughly-debunked myth. Don't fall for it.

Here are some citations you can look up for papers in this area by actual biochemists and medical researchers:

Fluorine and thyroid gland function: a review of the literature.

Effects of fluoride on thyroid hormone biosynthesis. Studies in a highly sensitive test system

Sodium Hexafluorosilicate and Fluorosilicic Acid Review of Toxicological Literature

Long-term Effects of Various Iodine and Fluorine Doses on the Thyroid and Fluorosis in Mice.

The thyroid's function is inhibited by a shortage of iodine, but unless the dosage of fluoride is extremely high it has no effect on the thyroid. Its effects (on the thyroid) in high doses is reversible—but by the time thyroid function is inhibited many other more-acute symptoms appear.

The anti-fluoride movement has been quite dishonest in its hysteria. Their style of out-of-context quotes from medical literature reminds me of...well, other conspiracy theorists.
 
Ahhhh..... so it WAS/WASN'T a Russkie plot!


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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 9:24am

 hippiechick wrote:
Here is an article about hypothyroidism, which is a growing problem. I also learned that fluoride in the water blocks ingestion of iodine, which helps the thyroid.
 
This is a thoroughly-debunked myth. Don't fall for it.

Here are some citations you can look up for papers in this area by actual biochemists and medical researchers:

Fluorine and thyroid gland function: a review of the literature.

Effects of fluoride on thyroid hormone biosynthesis. Studies in a highly sensitive test system

Sodium Hexafluorosilicate and Fluorosilicic Acid Review of Toxicological Literature

Long-term Effects of Various Iodine and Fluorine Doses on the Thyroid and Fluorosis in Mice.

The thyroid's function is inhibited by a shortage of iodine, but unless the dosage of fluoride is extremely high it has no effect on the thyroid. Its effects (on the thyroid) in high doses is reversible—but by the time thyroid function is inhibited many other more-acute symptoms appear.

The anti-fluoride movement has been quite dishonest in its hysteria. Their style of out-of-context quotes from medical literature reminds me of...well, other conspiracy theorists.

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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 8:10am

Here is an article about hypothyroidism, which is a growing problem. I also learned that fluoride in the water blocks ingestion of iodine, which helps the thyroid.

A 7-Step Plan To Boost Your Low Thyroid And Metabolism

Last week, I told you about low thyroid function and how it affects more than 30 million women and 15 million men.

So why are we seeing such an epidemic of thyroid problems?

Well, chronic thyroid problems can be caused by many factors ...

What Causes Hypothyroidism?

One of the most important factors that leads to hypothyroidism is exposure to environmental toxins such as pesticides, which act as hormone or endocrine disruptors and interfere with thyroid hormone metabolism and function.

In fact, one study found that as people lost weight they released pesticides from their fat tissue.

This then interfered with their thyroid function and caused hypothyroidism. The toxins created a slow metabolism and prevented them from losing more weight.

This study highlights the importance of overall detoxification. It is quite a significant finding that shows exactly how toxins interfere with thyroid function.

Heavy metals such as mercury can also affect thyroid function. I see many people with chronic hypothyroidism and other thyroid problems because mercury interferes with normal thyroid function.

The other big factor that interferes with thyroid function is chronic stress.

There is an intimate interaction between stress hormones and thyroid function. The more stress you are under, the worse your thyroid functions.

Any approach to correcting poor thyroid function must address the effects of chronic stress and provide support to the adrenal glands.

The next major factor that affects thyroid function is chronic inflammation. The biggest source of this chronic inflammation is gluten, the protein found in wheat, barely, rye, spelt, and oats.

Gluten is a very common allergen that affects about 10 to 20 percent of the population. This reaction occurs mostly because of our damaged guts, poor diet, and stress.

I also think eating so-called Frankenfoods, such as hybridized and genetically modified grains with very strange proteins, makes us sick.

Our bodies say, "What's this? Must be something foreign. I'd better create antibodies to this, fight it, and get rid of it."

This chronic inflammatory response interferes with thyroid function — and contributes to the epidemic of inflammatory diseases in the developed world.

Lastly, nutritional deficiencies play a big role in thyroid dysfunction. These include deficiencies of iodine, vitamin D, omega-3 fats, selenium, zinc, vitamin A, and the B vitamins.

There are so many reasons for low thyroid function, yet I have seen lots of patients with this problem who were just ignored by their doctors.

For example, one young female patient of mine had more than 30 percent body fat and was unable to change her body, no matter how hard she worked. She ate perfectly, exercised with a trainer every day — and her body still wouldn't budge.

She also had a slightly depressed mood and other vague symptoms.

So I treated her with a low dose of Armour Thyroid, which is a natural thyroid replacement.

What happened?

Well, she not only lost 20 pounds and improved her body composition, but her mood improved and all her other symptoms went away.

How did I know she had low thyroid function?

Once I have asked about symptoms, done a physical exam, and considered all the potential causes of thyroid problems, I do the right tests.

Most doctors just check something called the thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH), which doesn't give a full picture of the thyroid. In fact, even the interpretation of this test is incorrect most of the time.

The newer guidelines of the American College of Endocrinology consider anybody with a TSH level over 3.0 as hypothyroid. Most doctors think that only anything over 5 or 10 is worth treating.

Unfortunately, this leaves millions suffering unnecessarily.

There are also other tests, including free T3 and free T4 and thyroid antibodies, which are essential.

I also look for associated problems such as gluten intolerance, food allergies, and heavy metals, as well as deficiencies of vitamin D, selenium, vitamin A, zinc, and omega-3 fats.

There are many things to consider in a careful approach to hypothyroidism.

It is one of the most common problems I see, and treating it properly makes one of the biggest differences in my patients' quality of life.

Unfortunately, by using the old guidelines and thinking, conventional medicine misses millions who suffer with hypothyroidism.

In fact, in one study, researchers tested everybody who walked through the gates of a county fair with conventional thyroid testing. They found that according to even conservative conventional standards, half of all the people who had hypothyroidism were undiagnosed, untreated, and suffering.

So what's the solution?

How You Can Overcome Hypothyroidism

I encourage you to take the following steps to rebalance your thyroid:

1. Make a thorough inventory of any of the symptoms that I mentioned in last week's blog to see if you might suffer from hypothyroidism.

2. Get the right thyroid tests including TSH, free T3, free T4, TPO, and anti-thyroglobulin antibodies.

3. Check for celiac disease with a celiac panel.

4. Consider heavy metal toxicity.

5. Check your vitamin D level.

Once you have confirmed that a sluggish thyroid is contributing to your symptoms, the good news is that there are many, many, many things you can do to help correct thyroid problems.

I have developed a seven-step plan to address hypothyroidism:

1. Treat the Underlying Causes — Identify and treat the underlying causes of hypothyroidism, like food allergies, gluten, heavy metals, nutritional deficiencies, and stress.

2. Optimize Your Nutrition — Support your thyroid with optimal nutrition, including foods that contain iodine, zinc, omega-3 fats, selenium, and more.

3. Minimize Stress — Eliminate adrenal exhaustion and minimize stress by engaging in a comprehensive stress management program.

4. Exercise — Engage in thyroid stimulating exercise, which boosts thyroid function.

5. Supplement — Use supplements to help enhance thyroid function, including all the nutrients needed for proper thyroid metabolism and function.

6.Heat Therapy — Use saunas and heat to eliminate stored toxins, which interfere with thyroid function.

7. Thyroid Hormones — Use thyroid hormone replacement therapy to help support your thyroid gland.

I believe a comprehensive approach is needed to address chronic thyroid issues and to diagnose them. Unfortunately, most of the options for healing by conventional care are quite limited and only provide a partial solution. But by following my seven-step plan you can achieve lifelong vibrant health.

Now I'd like to hear from you ...

If you have low thyroid function, how was it diagnosed?

Did you face any resistance from your doctor?

Which of these steps have you tried to treat it and have they helped?

Please let me know your thoughts by leaving a comment.

To your good health,

Mark Hyman, M.D.

Mark Hyman, M.D. practicing physician and founder of The UltraWellness Center is a pioneer in functional medicine. Dr. Hyman is now sharing the 7 ways to tap into your body's natural ability to heal itself. You can follow him on Twitter, connect with him on LinkedIn, watch his videos on Youtube and become a fan on Facebook.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2009 - 7:40pm

Here's a little more allergy data, just in case anyone has problems with dust mites...  it is not simply dust that causes allergies, but microscopic insect-like creatures called dust mites and their droppings... dust mites are found virtually everywhere dust can collect... they live on the skin cells that are always being shed by humans, and are a common cause of asthma...  mites live on mattresses, pillows, blankets, carpets, upholstered furniture, draperies, clothes, and stuffed toys...

mites prefer warm, damp weather...

the mites and their droppings are so small that they cannot easily be vacuumed up... they pass right through a standard vacuum bag and float in the air...  vacuuming can make the symptoms worse... when breathed in, the mites and droppings can cause sneezing, itching, runny nose, coughing, wheezing, or eczema...

a good way to combat dust mites in your home, and especially in your bedroom, is to follow a careful, daily cleaning plan... measures such as dusting with a damp cloth and mopping the floors with water every day may help limit dust...  the bedroom is critical... follow these suggestions, and you'll be amazed at how much better you'll be able to breathe and sleep, and how much better you'll feel when you wake up-

in the bedroom-
 1)  use airtight cases for pillows, mattresses, and box springs... these come in a variety of brand names at most stores that sell bedding- just make sure the products meet "asthma friendly standards" of the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America...
 2)  use pillows made of synthetic material
 3)  if possible, replace carpets with tile, wood, or vinyl floors... use throw rugs that can be laundered frequently...
 4)  if you are unable to remove your carpets, treat them with a tannic acid solution to neutralize dust mite allergens... tannic acid is safe, natural, and powerful... it is better to avoid so called "miticides" because they contain toxic chemicals
 5)  if possible, avoid upholstered furniture... substitute wood, leather, vinyl, or metal furniture that can be wiped clean easily
 6)  avoid clutter that is hard to dust... do not use the space under the bed for storage
 7)  if possible, have someone else vacuum the floor weekly, using a "microfiltration" bag... the person who has the allergy should stay out of the room while it is being cleaned
 8)  wash bedding at least once a week in hot water... include blankets and comforters...
 9)  do not do any steam-cleaning- it increases humidity and moisture levels, which helps dust mites breed
10)  use an allergy neutralizing solution on curtains, upholstery and other surfaces that harbor dust mites
11)  keep clothes tucked away in closets and drawers... keep closet doors closed... this prevents dust from collecting

general tips-
1)  change the filters on heating or central air conditioning units at least four times a year
2)  keep the humidity low (below 50%, if possible) by using the air conditioner, and avoid humidifiers... the mites will not reproduce as much
3)  keep your feet clean of dust

 

 

 




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Posted: Jun 25, 2009 - 7:28am

Yes, it's wonderful to see them making progress in this area. {#Arrowd}
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Posted: May 13, 2009 - 2:01pm

 romeotuma wrote:


The word "presbyopia" comes from the Greek word for "elderly vision"...  by our mid-forties, presbyopia is beginning to set in for most of us (and it affects 100% of us by 55)... while the lenses in our eyes have been growing less flexible throughout our lifetime, most of us begin to notice the effects in our 40's...  treatment for presbyopia involves the use of glasses and to a lesser degree contact lenses... laser surgery cannot be used since the problem is in the lens and not the cornea... those who have not previously had vision correction will need to wear reading glasses and those who already have corrective lenses will need bifocals with the bottom portion designed to boost near vision...

presbyopia is associated with aging...  it occurs in everyone...  the first sign is often the need to hold reading material farther away...  the lens of the eye and the muscle that surrounds it are like atomic clocks, slowly ticking with such precision that a person's age can be determined by measuring his or her ability to focus close up...  by age 45 or so, when the eyes can focus no closer than a yard (a meter) or two away, almost everyone needs glasses to read a newspaper or thread a needle...  sigh...

 

As our resident optician, the above description is 100 % accurate.  The eye is just about the only part of our body where we can still not medically cheat time.  Glasses and contacts are prosthetic devices.  The crystaline lens hardens and turns yellow over time.  One of the first comments of post cataract surgery patients is how vivid colors are again, since they are looking through a clear lens again.  FWIW, the sharper the vision correction, the brighter and truer the colors seen.  When disected, the crystaline len has layers very similar to onions.  A less mature lens will bounce like a super ball.  The older harder ones are less flexible resulting in less accommodation or the ability to change shape in order to see near and far.

What is coming in the near future are lens implants that will actually have the ability to accommodate or change shape like the real thing.  This might truly provide for the actual elimination of corrective lenses with properly done surgery.  At present there is no solution to that.  Mono vision contacts will give you near and far vision, but with the loss of depth perception.  Progressive lenses which are lineless trifocal lenses provide the best overall vision for those that cannot see far or near without correction.  They are not the ultimate solution either.  For those that live on computers, special lenses are available and will provide a quality of life improvement for all wearers. 

And for a good refraction or perscription, see an optometrist, not an ophthamologist.  An optometrist spends nearly 7 years learning about the refractive properties of eyes while an ophthamologist just usually gets 6 months training on refraction, the same as the techniican who usually does the refraction that the ophthamologist just signs off on.  Ophthamologist's are actually medical doctors, brain surgeons, averaging 12 years of training.  The eye is actually an exposed part of the brain.  Eyes are hardwired all the way through to the occipital lobe in the back of the brain.  That is also why there is no such thing as a non perscription contact lens, regardless of correction, if any.  A contact lens is directly applied to exposed brain matter (your eye) and therefore requires many individually specific properties.  Even non corrective cosmetic contacts require these adjustments.
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Posted: May 2, 2009 - 10:13am

 romeotuma wrote:



Abnormal responses to 13 questions from a typical mental status examination and 32 signs of neurological dysfunction were correlated with increasing degrees of cognitive impairment as measured by the Halstead-Reitan Neuropsychological Battery. Thirteen of these factors were found to be useful predictors of diffuse cerebral dysfunction when combined into a brief screening examination for application at the bedside.

The diagnosis of the presence or absence of diffuse cerebral dysfunction-that is, delirium (reversible) or dementia (irreversible)-is a frequent problem, most often encountered with elderly patients but by no means limited to them (Katzman, 1976).  When the patient's cognitive integrity is in question, it is important to document the impairment accurately, rapidly, and economically in order to institute therapy for reversible disease processes (Marsden and Harrison, 1972). One tool for the immediate and objective measurement of cerebral function has been examination of the mental status at the bedside. Orientation, memory, problem-solving, and abstraction may be evaluated in a few minutes with a short collection of well chosen questions. These means of appraisal are popular and frequently valuable, but have certain prominent weaknesses. The tests and their administration and interpretation are difficult to standardise. Given a consistent examination of mental status, distinction between low intellect and genuine cortical impairment is subjective and is based on extensive experience with patients of all ages, capabilities, and levels of education. In addition, bedside examinations of mental status have not been correlated systematically with more fully documented measures of neuropsychological function.

Clinical signs in diffuse cerebral dysfunction

 
dang. i was hoping this was a facebook quiz. 
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Posted: May 2, 2009 - 10:11am



The word "presbyopia" comes from the Greek word for "elderly vision"...  by our mid-forties, presbyopia is beginning to set in for most of us (and it affects 100% of us by 55)... while the lenses in our eyes have been growing less flexible throughout our lifetime, most of us begin to notice the effects in our 40's...  treatment for presbyopia involves the use of glasses and to a lesser degree contact lenses... laser surgery cannot be used since the problem is in the lens and not the cornea... those who have not previously had vision correction will need to wear reading glasses and those who already have corrective lenses will need bifocals with the bottom portion designed to boost near vision...

presbyopia is associated with aging...  it occurs in everyone...  the first sign is often the need to hold reading material farther away...  the lens of the eye and the muscle that surrounds it are like atomic clocks, slowly ticking with such precision that a person's age can be determined by measuring his or her ability to focus close up...  by age 45 or so, when the eyes can focus no closer than a yard (a meter) or two away, almost everyone needs glasses to read a newspaper or thread a needle...  sigh...


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Posted: Apr 22, 2009 - 9:52am



Abnormal responses to 13 questions from a typical mental status examination and 32 signs of neurological dysfunction were correlated with increasing degrees of cognitive impairment as measured by the Halstead-Reitan Neuropsychological Battery. Thirteen of these factors were found to be useful predictors of diffuse cerebral dysfunction when combined into a brief screening examination for application at the bedside.

The diagnosis of the presence or absence of diffuse cerebral dysfunction-that is, delirium (reversible) or dementia (irreversible)-is a frequent problem, most often encountered with elderly patients but by no means limited to them (Katzman, 1976).  When the patient's cognitive integrity is in question, it is important to document the impairment accurately, rapidly, and economically in order to institute therapy for reversible disease processes (Marsden and Harrison, 1972). One tool for the immediate and objective measurement of cerebral function has been examination of the mental status at the bedside. Orientation, memory, problem-solving, and abstraction may be evaluated in a few minutes with a short collection of well chosen questions. These means of appraisal are popular and frequently valuable, but have certain prominent weaknesses. The tests and their administration and interpretation are difficult to standardise. Given a consistent examination of mental status, distinction between low intellect and genuine cortical impairment is subjective and is based on extensive experience with patients of all ages, capabilities, and levels of education. In addition, bedside examinations of mental status have not been correlated systematically with more fully documented measures of neuropsychological function.

Clinical signs in diffuse cerebral dysfunction


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Posted: Apr 22, 2009 - 7:17am

 woozurbuddy wrote:

If that doesn't work, try leeches.....{#Wink}
 
I have several. I call them neighbors.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2009 - 6:53am

 Southern_Boy wrote:
Has anyone heard of or tried using apple cider vinegar for joint pain? Varying concoctions such as mixing two tblsp ACV and 2 tsps honey in warm water.

 
no, I've used it for digestion problems. didn't work. if you do this, make sure to brush your teeth after. that's some high acidic stuff that will eat your teeth.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2009 - 6:04am

Has anyone heard of or tried using apple cider vinegar for joint pain? Varying concoctions such as mixing two tblsp ACV and 2 tsps honey in warm water.
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Posted: Apr 19, 2009 - 2:41pm

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If any of you have been watching PBS and seen Dr. Daniel G. Amen's program where he pitches his book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Life, then remember the axiom "buyer beware"...  the doc is a quack who runs a site called Amen Clinics...  Amen claims he can help diagnose and manage cases of brain trauma, underachievement, school failure, depression, obsessive compulsive disorders, anxiety, aggressiveness, cognitive decline, and brain toxicity from drugs or alcohol...  I wonder if his middle initial stands for God...

Wikipedia points out—

Amen's work has been criticized by doctors. Neurologist Michael Greicius, who runs the Stanford University memory clinic, said "SPECT scans are not sufficiently sensitive or specific to be useful in the diagnosis of Alzheimer Disease...The PBS airing of Amen's program provides a stamp of scientific validity to work which has no scientific validity." In 2005, on Quackwatch.org, a nonprofit that investigates health-related frauds, myths, fads and fallacies, Dr. Harriet Hall, a retired family physician, outlined some concerns: "Amen's recommendations defy science, common sense and logic. I feel much worse about him now than I did when I wrote the piece because I went back and looked at his Web site again, and I'm just appalled by some of the things that are on it now. He's selling vitamin supplements and he's selling his own line of products. He's turned into big business." According to its Web site, Amen Clinics charges $3,250 for a "comprehensive evaluation," which includes the patient's history, two SPECT scans, a physician consultation, and a 30-minute treatment follow-up appointment. Follow-up scans after treatment are $795 each."

Quackwatch is a fantastic site...  they spell it out really well on their article called A Skeptical View of SPECT Scans and Dr. Daniel Amen...

I am very disappointed that PBS has associated itself with such dubious anecdotal science from such a charlatan...

 
I saw that on PBS and thought it sounded like an informercial. And again became suspicious when I saw his site and other internet material on him. Good call. 
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Posted: Apr 19, 2009 - 2:31pm



If any of you have been watching PBS and seen Dr. Daniel G. Amen's program where he pitches his book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Life, then remember the axiom "buyer beware"...  the doc is a quack who runs a site called Amen Clinics...  Amen claims he can help diagnose and manage cases of brain trauma, underachievement, school failure, depression, obsessive compulsive disorders, anxiety, aggressiveness, cognitive decline, and brain toxicity from drugs or alcohol...  I wonder if his middle initial stands for God...

Wikipedia points out—

Amen's work has been criticized by doctors. Neurologist Michael Greicius, who runs the Stanford University memory clinic, said "SPECT scans are not sufficiently sensitive or specific to be useful in the diagnosis of Alzheimer Disease...The PBS airing of Amen's program provides a stamp of scientific validity to work which has no scientific validity." In 2005, on Quackwatch.org, a nonprofit that investigates health-related frauds, myths, fads and fallacies, Dr. Harriet Hall, a retired family physician, outlined some concerns: "Amen's recommendations defy science, common sense and logic. I feel much worse about him now than I did when I wrote the piece because I went back and looked at his Web site again, and I'm just appalled by some of the things that are on it now. He's selling vitamin supplements and he's selling his own line of products. He's turned into big business." According to its Web site, Amen Clinics charges $3,250 for a "comprehensive evaluation," which includes the patient's history, two SPECT scans, a physician consultation, and a 30-minute treatment follow-up appointment. Follow-up scans after treatment are $795 each."

Quackwatch is a fantastic site...  they spell it out really well on their article called A Skeptical View of SPECT Scans and Dr. Daniel Amen...

I am very disappointed that PBS has associated itself with such dubious anecdotal science from such a charlatan...


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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 8:47am

kurtster wrote:


Bad skin, roseachea, sebhorrea, (pardon the spellings) that's me, although its cleared up with all the chemo. All the antibiotics never did anything for me. One thing I did learn in my battles is to stay away from things that go to the the negative ph such as pine tar soaps and things like that. They make you dependant. One of my chem teachers who was actually a biologist said that the effects on skin by alkaline substances only lasts a day. When you go to the plus or acid side of the ph scale the effects can last up to a week. So I experimented with lemon juice, it sure smelled better than vinegar. Find a moisturizer that doesn't set you off. I ended up using Hawaiian Tropic's After Tan products, currently the Lime Colada stuff. It doesn't seem to react with me. Hard to find in the northern lats in the wintertime so I stock up enough to get through winter. Try an allergist and get skin patch tested. Its hit or miss and highly stress related.


thanks for the feedback, sir....and best wishes to you .....

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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 8:45am

 triskele wrote:

this is good...thank you....book marked it....still hoping for some possibly personal experience stories with tried and true remedies, as well.....

 

Bad skin, roseachea, sebhorrea, (pardon the spellings) that's me, although its cleared up with all the chemo.  All the antibiotics never did anything for me.  One thing I did learn in my battles is to stay away from things that go to the negative ph such as pine tar soaps and things like that.  They make you dependant.  One of my chem teachers who was actually a biologist said that the effects on skin by alkaline substances only lasts a day.  When you go to the plus or acid side of the ph scale the effects can last up to a week.  So I experimented with lemon juice, it sure smelled better than vinegar.  Find a moisturizer that doesn't set you off.  I ended up using Hawaiian Tropic's After Tan products, currently the Lime Colada stuff.  It doesn't seem to react with me.  Hard to find in the northern lats in the wintertime so I stock up enough to get through winter.  Try an allergist and get skin patch tested.  Its hit or miss and highly stress related.


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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 8:31am

hippiechick wrote:

Have you asked the google?

http://www.rosacea.org/index.php

this is good...thank you....book marked it....still hoping for some possibly personal experience stories with tried and true remedies, as well.....


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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 8:30am

best of everything to kurtster as he goes through the coming ordeals.....  {#Meditate}
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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 8:26am

 kurtster wrote:


Yes, I get a mailing address.  Patty will post something in the journals when I go in.  My new admit date is April 15.  That's a date I will never forget. 

 
good.  hopefully she'll also post your favorite foods/games/f*ckoff stuff.

  you're on my mind a good bit there K. 

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Posted: Mar 28, 2009 - 8:24am

 triskele wrote:
anyone got any good advice on rosacea?

it started when i was in my 30's and now has gotten to the point where there is permanent redness on my face and upper chest, and when i am the least bit warm, agitated, embarassed (why does spell check not let me spell that ANY way i think might be right?), stressed, or if i have a little alcohol, it flares up BIG TIME.

now, i am also starting to have tiny bumps in the red areas of my face.

i've tried clinique redness solutions products, and they have reduced the intensity of the permanent redness a bit, but i am hoping for some other ideas. i mostly use products for sensitive skin, without fragrance or artificial color.

thanks!

 
Have you asked the google?

http://www.rosacea.org/index.php

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