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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 8:54am

 VV wrote:
“Tell me again just who is the real Putin's bitch ?”

Ok, if you insist: Trump

“He says a lot but has not done much to actually deliver things that directly benefit Ukraine.”

This is a joke right? You’re trying to be funny? You haven’t really kept up on the whole Ukraine conflict?

Tell me what steps do you think Trump would have taken against Russia if he was leading us now? He would have helped to spearhead a raft of sanctions against Russia? How many NATO meetings would he have been a part of? Would he have provided additional funding to Ukraine? Yea, my bet is that he would just sit on his ass not knowing what the hell to do and waiting until everything just “works out”. Or he would try and lead by his “gut” which means the same thing.


1. Under Trump, the Afghanistan exit would not have happened. At least not in this way.
2. Putin would probably not have invaded Ukraine.

But that is all the same now... as the shit has already hit the fan.


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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 8:45am

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah.  The old geezer. 

Can we get real for a minute ?  Biden has Russia (Putin) negotiating on the behalf of the USA for the Iran Nuclear Treaty.

Tell me again just who is the real Putin's bitch ?  Could it have anything to do with Biden's slow walking everything to help out Ukraine ?  He says a lot but has not done much to actually deliver things that directly benefit Ukraine. He won't let them have Poland's MIG's. He won't even say that Ukraine might, could or should win.  He is now walking back all the claims that sanctions would deter Putin from acting by denying the claim was ever made in the first place.  There is plenty of video that proves otherwise.

Still no buyers remorse ?  Even if he starts WW III ?

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Gates Stands By Statement That Biden Has Been Wrong On Nearly Every Major Foreign Policy Question



“Tell me again just who is the real Putin's bitch ?”

Ok, if you insist: Trump

“He says a lot but has not done much to actually deliver things that directly benefit Ukraine.”

This is a joke right? You’re trying to be funny? You haven’t really kept up on the whole Ukraine conflict?

Tell me what steps do you think Trump would have taken against Russia if he was leading us now? He would have helped to spearhead a raft of sanctions against Russia? How many NATO meetings would he have been a part of? Would he have provided additional funding to Ukraine? Yea, my bet is that he would just sit on his ass not knowing what the hell to do and waiting until everything just “works out”. Or he would try and lead by his “gut” which means the same thing.
Ivanhoe

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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 8:39am

 VV wrote:

Read the article. Saw nothing in it about Putin being baited to do anything. Sounds like you are pushing that conclusion… not the author.



Correctamundo. Yet, the thoughts given in that article are part of a greater narrative, detailing western hegemony, Maidan, etc. If one follows that (greater) narrative, the conclusion I gave seems quite evident (maybe not only to me).

If in doubt, check their articles here.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 8:33am

 Ivanhoe wrote:

Going down that rabbit hole (WWIII) from a russophile perspective by Strategic Culture Foundation, a pro-Russian think tank in the US, Pepe Escobar's reasoning is given here.

According to that narrative, Putin was baited to go in to Ukraine by the West, and he took the bait hook, line and sinker.

Also, watch out for possible chemical attacks, carried out as false flag ops.


Read the article. Saw nothing in it about Putin being baited to do anything. Sounds like you are pushing that conclusion… not the author.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 7:43am

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah.  The old geezer. 

Can we get real for a minute ?  Biden has Russia (Putin) negotiating on the behalf of the USA for the Iran Nuclear Treaty.

Tell me again just who is the real Putin's bitch ?  Could it have anything to do with Biden's slow walking everything to help out Ukraine ?  He says a lot but has not done much to actually deliver things that directly benefit Ukraine. He won't let them have Poland's MIG's. He won't even say that Ukraine might, could or should win.  He is now walking back all the claims that sanctions would deter Putin from acting by denying the claim was ever made in the first place.  There is plenty of video that proves otherwise.

Still no buyers remorse ?  Even if he starts WW III ?


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Gates Stands By Statement That Biden Has Been Wrong On Nearly Every Major Foreign Policy Question


Going down that rabbit hole (WWIII) from a russophile perspective by Strategic Culture Foundation, a pro-Russian think tank in the US, Pepe Escobar's reasoning is given here.

According to that narrative, Putin was baited to go in to Ukraine by the West, and he took the bait hook, line and sinker.

Also, watch out for possible chemical attacks, carried out as false flag ops.

kurtster

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Posted: Mar 27, 2022 - 1:52am

 R_P wrote:
I'm not saying it's regime change, but...
 
Yeah.  The old geezer. 

Can we get real for a minute ?  Biden has Russia (Putin) negotiating on the behalf of the USA for the Iran Nuclear Treaty.

Tell me again just who is the real Putin's bitch ?  Could it have anything to do with Biden's slow walking everything to help out Ukraine ?  He says a lot but has not done much to actually deliver things that directly benefit Ukraine. He won't let them have Poland's MIG's. He won't even say that Ukraine might, could or should win.  He is now walking back all the claims that sanctions would deter Putin from acting by denying the claim was ever made in the first place.  There is plenty of video that proves otherwise.

Still no buyers remorse ?  Even if he starts WW III ?

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Gates Stands By Statement That Biden Has Been Wrong On Nearly Every Major Foreign Policy Question

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Posted: Mar 26, 2022 - 2:13pm

I'm not saying it's regime change, but...
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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 7:02am

AP Source: Biden to ban Russian oil imports over Ukraine war
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 1:11pm

 black321 wrote:

Oil - talk about fake news and misinformation. 
Is it possible the recession/pandemic impact on petroleum had anything to do with the shift in supply and demand the last two years?
Is it possible the sharp drop in demand, then the drop in price in 2020 had an effect on imports/exports, and then led to petro companies cutting their own production...as typically happens in high production cost countries like the US and Canada, following a sharp drop in prices (and once prices rebound - we didn't see a sustained recovery until 2H21 - it can take several months if not years to increase production again)?
Sure, dems are less friendly to oil, but the most significant impact from any action taken by biden would be years away, and really couldn't have impacted 2021. 

As I said in a prior post, say what you know, and know what you say.



That's absolutely what happened.  When oil went to negative values for a few weeks in 2020, infrastructure spending within the oil companies stopped cold.  It never returned.  We have plenty of oil to make up for any Russian losses in the Permian Basin, but nobody has added capacity as they were recovering profits from the shock of the pandemic.  That lack of investment happened everywhere.

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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 12:48pm

Oil - talk about fake news and misinformation. 
Is it possible the recession/pandemic impact on petroleum had anything to do with the shift in supply and demand the last two years?
Is it possible the sharp drop in demand, then the drop in price in 2020 had an effect on imports/exports, and then led to petro companies cutting their own production...as typically happens in high production cost countries like the US and Canada, following a sharp drop in prices (and once prices rebound - we didn't see a sustained recovery until 2H21 - it can take several months if not years to increase production again)?
Sure, dems are less friendly to oil, but the most significant impact from any action taken by biden would be years away, and really couldn't have impacted 2021. 

As I said in a prior post, say what you know, and know what you say.


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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 7:00am

 kurtster wrote:
I have already posted the opposite with citations.

As usual, you are blinded by your devotion to CNN.
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The U.S. Will Be A Net Oil Importer In 2022  (AGAIN AS IN 2021)

Higher net crude oil imports are set to make the United States a net petroleum importer this year again, as in 2021, after a historic shift of being a net petroleum exporter in 2020, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said on Friday.

A net petroleum importer is a country that imports more crude oil and refined products than the crude and products it exports.

While the U.S. has been a net petroleum products exporter for more than a decade, it has always been a net crude oil importer, that is, it imports more crude than it exports.

The total crude and petroleum products trade marked a historic shift in 2020 when the U.S. became a net petroleum exporter. On a monthly basis,

it was in September 2019 when the United States exported more crude oil and petroleum products than it imported—the first month in which America was a net petroleum exporter since monthly records began in 1973
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the EIA said at the end of 2019.


Did you even read the article? In it you'll find:

While the U.S. has been a net petroleum products exporter for more than a decade, it has always been a net crude oil importer, that is, it imports more crude than it exports.

That means the US imports slightly more crude oil than it exports, refines it into petroleum products, and re-exports them. Not the dependency you're trying to paint it as at all.
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 7:36pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
The US is a net exporter of oil. We don't need Russia's.
 
I have already posted the opposite with citations.

As usual, you are blinded by your devotion to CNN.
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The U.S. Will Be A Net Oil Importer In 2022  (AGAIN AS IN 2021)

Higher net crude oil imports are set to make the United States a net petroleum importer this year again, as in 2021, after a historic shift of being a net petroleum exporter in 2020, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said on Friday.

A net petroleum importer is a country that imports more crude oil and refined products than the crude and products it exports.

While the U.S. has been a net petroleum products exporter for more than a decade, it has always been a net crude oil importer, that is, it imports more crude than it exports.

The total crude and petroleum products trade marked a historic shift in 2020 when the U.S. became a net petroleum exporter. On a monthly basis,

it was in September 2019 when the United States exported more crude oil and petroleum products than it imported—the first month in which America was a net petroleum exporter since monthly records began in 1973
,

the EIA said at the end of 2019.

rgio

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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 3:51pm

What's really interesting about the Right these days is their constant attacks on Biden for the cost of gasoline, inflation, and for not cutting off Russian oil.  

I would suggest that there is a strategy to the Russian oil bit.  The US gets `3% of our oil from Russia.  We could cut it off and find it someplace else.

Germany gets 50% of its oil from Russia, and the EU as a whole gets 27% from Russia.  For natural gas, the EU gets 41% from Russia.  Europe saying no to Russian fuel right now would be immensely painful in Europe.  

I would suggest that Biden is not making the announcement because he is supporting our allies who are working on alternatives but lacking a lot of answers.  The US saying "we're not importing Russian fuel" would just put more pressure on our EU allies.

If Biden wants an excuse for inflation and gas prices....then he would impose a ban on Russia and blame everything on that.  As for inflation....by Easter, it will just go away...like a miracle.  Just say what the nay-sayers want to hear... and ignore reality.  

It's the difference between making every decision "by your gut", and professionally organizing allies and long-term plans.  Strategy....it's a practice that's been missing in DC for 5 years.  Of course, none of that makes any difference to the Right who are still rejecting the results of an election that even the loser knows he lost... but you can't worry about that when doing the right thing for the country.
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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 3:46pm

 R_P wrote:

Zero thinking involved.




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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 1:35pm

 kcar wrote:
That you think this (...)

Zero thinking involved.

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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 1:28pm

 HarleyRider wrote:

These points are what stood out to me during the recent State of the Union message. 1) Biden failed to acknowledge the importance of re-establishing American energy independence and needs to unshackle closed pipelines and drilling. 2) The domestic part of the speech was just a rehashed list of Build Back Better big government programs that have already been voted down. Biden mentioned the word inflation but cannot admit his party caused the problem nor that he has any solution for it. 3) His scant recognition of the crisis he created at the border was a mere mention of using electronic surveillance to deter drug smuggling – while actual drug smuggling and human trafficking is currently occurring. 4) Biden’s claim that he and the Democrats are for funding the police was another lie to the American people. 5) Biden’s failure to acknowledge the deaths of 13 American service members because of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal was shocking and jarring. Still a weak president!



1. Biden admin has granted more permits for drilling on public lands than Trump did.

2. Biden is trying to pass parts of Build Back Better rather than push one big package. Sorry you didn't like the notion of Buy/Build American: that played so well with the Trumpistas when Donnie was pushing it.

The Dems did not cause inflation. That you think this shows you do not keep up with the news.

3. Biden did not create problems at our southern border. Human and drug trafficking are going to keep occurring regardless of who's in the White House.

4. There is a division of opinion within the Democratic party on de/funding the police. The left wing of the party wants defunding while the majority of the party supports current or improved funding levels along with needed reforms in police practices and reductions in the types of responsibilities forced on police in the streets.

5. Did Trump take responsibility for letting the Taliban take over Afghanistan? Or for helping to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans with his lies and incompetent handling of Covid?

For all of Biden's shortcomings I'd take him over the massively incompetent Putin-loving Trump.
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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 10:32am

These points are what stood out to me during the recent State of the Union message. 1) Biden failed to acknowledge the importance of re-establishing American energy independence and needs to unshackle closed pipelines and drilling. 2) The domestic part of the speech was just a rehashed list of Build Back Better big government programs that have already been voted down. Biden mentioned the word inflation but cannot admit his party caused the problem nor that he has any solution for it. 3) His scant recognition of the crisis he created at the border was a mere mention of using electronic surveillance to deter drug smuggling – while actual drug smuggling and human trafficking is currently occurring. 4) Biden’s claim that he and the Democrats are for funding the police was another lie to the American people. 5) Biden’s failure to acknowledge the deaths of 13 American service members because of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal was shocking and jarring. Still a weak president!
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Posted: Mar 4, 2022 - 5:38pm

 black321 wrote:


We were importing about 7%...now I would surmise virtually nothing. Not because of sanctions but because traders and shippers aren't buying...reports indicate Russia is having trouble selling 70% of its oil, and what it does sell is at a discount. 

the US should be buying from Venezuela and Iran to make up some of the difference. 


The US is a net exporter of oil. We don't need Russia's.
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Posted: Mar 4, 2022 - 5:27pm

 haresfur wrote:


Import the oil; stop paying the bill 



Send them the check for the water company.
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Posted: Mar 4, 2022 - 3:25pm

 haresfur wrote:


Import the oil; stop paying the bill 



We were importing about 7%...now I would surmise virtually nothing. Not because of sanctions but because traders and shippers aren't buying...reports indicate Russia is having trouble selling 70% of its oil, and what it does sell is at a discount. 

the US should be buying from Venezuela and Iran to make up some of the difference. 
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