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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Dec 20, 2021 - 5:39pm

Joe Biden sets 50-year record for economic improvement in first year of presidency
black321

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Posted: Dec 14, 2021 - 2:35pm

I personally hope they dont pass another shotgun spending bill. 

Why Build Back Better is so unloved

Rick Newman·Senior ColumnistMon, December 13, 2021, 1:41 PM

Offer people free money, and they should become your biggest fans. Right?

Not really, it turns out. President Biden’s legislative strategy this year was to include some temporary new benefits in the big Covid relief bill Democrats passed in March, then count on them becoming so popular that voters would demand they be extended indefinitely. The Build Back Better legislation Democrats hope to pass by the end of year is Part II of that strategy, with extensions of a new child tax credit and health care subsidies among the bill’s major elements.

Voters aren’t all that enthused. Just 41% of respondents in a recent NPR/Marist poll said they support the BBB legislation, with 34% opposed and 25% unsure. Support for the bipartisan infrastructure bill Biden signed in November was 56%. That 15-point gap in support is the difference between legislation Americans want Congress to pass, and legislation they don’t.

This matters now because Democrats hoped the larger tax credit would generate a groundswell of voter support that would get the BBB bill over the finish line by the end of 2021. The March relief bill established the expanded benefit for six months, starting in July—so it ends this month. The latest version of the BBB bill would keep it going for another year. Instead of rallying around BBB, however, voters are wan—perhaps because the bill also includes green-energy investments, preschool subsidies, housing support, immigration changes, tax hikes and other things that make the whole package seem unwieldy.

Many Democrats have vilified Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who has essentially blocked BBB so far, with objections to its large scope and cost, plus concern that it will worsen escalating inflation. But Manchin is closer to the majority view than most Democrats.


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Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 4:26pm

 oldviolin wrote:
Stop it, old crusty...
But could you get a Carolina style burger at Tastee Freeze or a Big Biff at Biff Burger? Heck no...
{#Wink}


Oops. Sorry. Bad jackson...


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Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 9:50am

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
 Manbird wrote:
so get beans on toast instead
I remember when you could get a burger at McDonalds for .15.
 Stop it, old crusty...
But could you get a Carolina style burger at Tastee Freez or a Big Biff at Biff Burger? Heck no...{#Wink}

Oops. Sorry. Bad jackson...
westslope

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Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 9:17am

Biden is sabre-rattling against the Russians.  Oddly enough, more of the Russian perspective is getting into western media this time round.

I don't like the notion of Biden creating a Bread & Circus moment for US voters but then he has been shown to be willing to compromise.  The probability of direct confrontation with Russia converges on zero.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2021 - 6:07pm

 Manbird wrote:


so get beans on toast instead
I remember when you could get a burger at McDonalds for .15.


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Posted: Dec 5, 2021 - 4:18pm

 rgio wrote:

So let's appreciate what you're saying....Janet Yellen, the Fed chair that Trump replaced (after suggesting she wasn't tall enough for the job...) with the guy who's been printing money 24/7 and now has a $9 Trillion dollar balance sheet at the Fed...is your proof it's Biden's fault?  

Trump poured the lighter fluid, struck the match, lit the flames, waited to call the fire department, and now wants to complain Biden can't put the fire out.

RE: inflation...it's running really hot here vs. Europe for example, but it has to balance out over time.  That said...prices aren't going back to pre-Covid pricing for most things.  Housing...cars...some things might retreat, but those $15 burgers are here to stay.  


so get beans on toast instead
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Posted: Dec 5, 2021 - 4:18pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


So my question is... "inflation" means they won't be $15 next year, but $17 and over $20 before the next presidential election. If they stay at $15 and housing prices stabilize, then inflation was indeed transitory and these were just corrections, no?

Mostly transitory unless inflation expectations change.  That is a risk.  An earlier, faster reduction in bond purchases, as signalled, may help to keep inflation expectations anchored.

Was playing with COVID-19 per capita death rates on the Financial Times website.  US death rates rates are shooting up.  But not so much in the four largest, most economically important states.

Nevertheless, it looks like US economic growth is slowing or will slow but by how much remains to be seen.  A near-term slowdown will help tame this kind of measured inflation and help keep pressure off of oil prices.  







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Posted: Dec 5, 2021 - 11:57am

 rgio wrote:

RE: inflation...it's running really hot here vs. Europe for example, but it has to balance out over time.  That said...prices aren't going back to pre-Covid pricing for most things.  Housing...cars...some things might retreat, but those $15 burgers are here to stay.  


So my question is... "inflation" means they won't be $15 next year, but $17 and over $20 before the next presidential election. If they stay at $15 and housing prices stabilize, then inflation was indeed transitory and these were just corrections, no?
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Posted: Dec 5, 2021 - 10:18am

How the Build Back Better Act Could Backfire on Democrats - The Atlantic
Will tax cuts for the rich really help Joe Biden’s party in the midterms?


SALT in the wounds
The Democrats’ fiscal policy makes a mockery of their progressive pledges
  - The Economist
It is regressive and self-defeating

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 8:24pm

 kurtster wrote:
So Biden is blameless regarding the current state of our economy.  It is all Trump's fault.  Got it.

I blame Biden for following Trump's policies on trade, spending, and (to a large degree) immigration. So no, Biden is terrible. He deserves a lot of blame. He was sold as knowing better, and he clearly doesn't.

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 7:15pm

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

You obviously have not been listening to Fed Chair Powell.  Even what's her face Yellen, his predecessor has finally fessed up ...
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Janet Yellen says it’s time to stop calling inflation ‘transitory.’ {#Roflol}

So let's appreciate what you're saying....Janet Yellen, the Fed chair that Trump replaced (after suggesting she wasn't tall enough for the job...) with the guy who's been printing money 24/7 and now has a $9 Trillion dollar balance sheet at the Fed...is your proof it's Biden's fault?   Trump poured the lighter fluid, struck the match, lit the flames, waited to call the fire department, and now wants to complain Biden can't put the fire out. RE: inflation...it's running really hot here vs. Europe for example, but it has to balance out over time.  That said...prices aren't going back to pre-Covid pricing for most things.  Housing...cars...some things might retreat, but those $15 burgers are here to stay.  
 
So Biden is blameless regarding the current state of our economy.  It is all Trump's fault.  Got it.
rgio

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 3:28pm

 kurtster wrote:

You obviously have not been listening to Fed Chair Powell.  Even what's her face Yellen, his predecessor has finally fessed up ...
.
Janet Yellen says it’s time to stop calling inflation ‘transitory.’

{#Roflol}


So let's appreciate what you're saying....Janet Yellen, the Fed chair that Trump replaced (after suggesting she wasn't tall enough for the job...) with the guy who's been printing money 24/7 and now has a $9 Trillion dollar balance sheet at the Fed...is your proof it's Biden's fault?  

Trump poured the lighter fluid, struck the match, lit the flames, waited to call the fire department, and now wants to complain Biden can't put the fire out.

RE: inflation...it's running really hot here vs. Europe for example, but it has to balance out over time.  That said...prices aren't going back to pre-Covid pricing for most things.  Housing...cars...some things might retreat, but those $15 burgers are here to stay.  
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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 3:15pm

ECB has also come out on the side of transitory. Personally, I'm not convinced either, but time will tell.  Main point is, the global economy has taken a tremendous hit coming out of left field and the effects are still reverberating around the world's markets. It will take a while to settle. 
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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 3:06pm

 Steely_D wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

 Inflation is now officially a permanent thing.  It is no longer to be considered transitory.


It's obviously being caused by an economy that's rebounding and ready to participate - but the supply chain prevents it. So, costs of available goods and services rise in the face of lack of supply. Is that permanent? Not in the real world.
 
You obviously have not been listening to Fed Chair Powell.  Even what's her face Yellen, his predecessor has finally fessed up ...
.
Janet Yellen says it’s time to stop calling inflation ‘transitory.’

{#Roflol}

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 2:50pm

 kurtster wrote:

 Inflation is now officially a permanent thing.  It is no longer to be considered transitory.


It's obviously being caused by an economy that's rebounding and ready to participate - but the supply chain prevents it. So, costs of available goods and services rise in the face of lack of supply. Is that permanent? Not in the real world.



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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 2:48pm

 kurtster wrote:

The Fauci / Harris / Biden administration has just been caught playing god, again.  Their federal vaccine mandate has effectively been killed nationwide by several different federal judges.


Writing legislation to help protect Americans against a (for now) preventable fatal respiratory infection is "playing god"? Sounds like straightforward public health policy, like the other requirements to protect against communicable diseases amongst our nation's citizens. Weird to be against that, unless you're wanting people to get sick and die. And who wants that?

In a different arena, actively writing and passing legislation forcing the closure of abortion clinics isn't "playing god"? What kind of playing is it?

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 10:37am

 kurtster wrote:

The Fauci / Harris / Biden administration has just been caught playing god, again.  Their federal vaccine mandate has effectively been killed nationwide by several different federal judges.

A snowball's chance in hell of getting reinstated in the SCOTUS.

Meanwhile he has yet to follow court orders and reinstate the Remain in Mexico Policy.

But wait, there's more.  Inflation is now officially a permanent thing.  It is no longer to be considered transitory.

Carter will live long enough to see someone do worse than him and make an even bigger mess than he did.


Yup, the 45th president put that argument to rest. 👍

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 30, 2021 - 11:24pm

The Fauci / Harris / Biden administration has just been caught playing god, again.  Their federal vaccine mandate has effectively been killed nationwide by several different federal judges.

A snowball's chance in hell of getting reinstated in the SCOTUS.

Meanwhile he has yet to follow court orders and reinstate the Remain in Mexico Policy.

But wait, there's more.  Inflation is now officially a permanent thing.  It is no longer to be considered transitory.

Carter will live long enough to see someone do worse than him and make an even bigger mess than he did.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2021 - 9:37am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


No no no that can't be; he's singlehandedly killed the oil and coal and gas industries, didn't you hear? Drilling in Wyoming is way up, but when I mention that, people come back with some reason that's not a valid rebuttal to the Plain Fact That Biden Killed America™


I have some dental floss leases you may be interested in...
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