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steeler

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Posted: Aug 16, 2021 - 1:39pm

 VV wrote:

So who wants to ask our military intelligence why they didn't anticipate/see this playing out the way it is? Or did they see it but misjudged the speed at which everything would collapse?
 
I'm thinking it is the second scenario but it's not a good situation any way you cut it. If it comes out that Joe was warned that this could play out this way and he dismissed the warnings until the very last minute... then yeah... he's got some 'splaining to do. 


He said in his speech just now that he and his administration were taken by surprise by the speed of the Taliban takeover, but not the takeover itself, which he said they knew was possible and they planned for as a contingency. Interestingly, he revealed that Afghan officials in Kabul inveighed upon he and his administration to hold off on starting an evacuation because they feared it would create a crisis of confidence.

I think there clearly was an intelligence failure. I read earlier today that leaders in Afghan localities had been talking with Taliban about surrendering for weeks/months now.  Our guys were not aware this was going on?



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Posted: Aug 16, 2021 - 1:30pm

So who wants to ask our military intelligence why they didn't anticipate/see this playing out the way it is? Or did they see it but misjudged the speed at which everything would collapse?
 
I'm thinking it is the second scenario but it's not a good situation any way you cut it. If it comes out that Joe was warned that this could play out this way and he dismissed the warnings until the very last minute... then yeah... he's got some 'splaining to do. 
steeler

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Posted: Aug 16, 2021 - 1:24pm

I have rather profound reservations about the withdrawal and what is happening now in Afghanistan. That said, that was a strong speech by  Biden.
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Posted: Aug 16, 2021 - 10:44am

 kurtster wrote:

So who wants to defend Biden's handling of Afghanistan ?


Indefensible. The deal made by Generalissimo Trump clearly said May 1st 2021. Was Joe asleep for more than 3 months?
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Posted: Aug 16, 2021 - 6:52am

 kurtster wrote:

So who wants to defend Biden's handling of Afghanistan ?



is there ever a graceful way to end a fool's errand?

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Posted: Aug 16, 2021 - 6:30am

So who wants to defend Biden's handling of Afghanistan ?
westslope

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Posted: Aug 7, 2021 - 10:33am

It would be nice to have separate elections for the Head of State and the Head of Government.


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Posted: Aug 7, 2021 - 9:50am

 black321 wrote:


the man is old, past his prime, and probably shouldn't be president (what were the alternatives?), but it's worth remembering he does stutter. 


Folks elected Trump because "not Killary!"
similarly, Biden was elected because Trump was such a poor option.

Would be nice to have someone who was the best become President. Hasn't happened since Obama, of course - voting for someone instead of against the other one.
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Posted: Aug 6, 2021 - 11:29am

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the man is old, past his prime, and probably shouldn't be president (what were the alternatives?), but it's worth remembering he does stutter. 


we have to go through training to spot this stuff at work

parasites latch on to older people and take advantage of their diminished capacity
i've had older people trying to bypass security protocol, trying to wire six figures to scammers online
folks claiming to run orphanages in remote areas and the like
if jb was a client, i'd probably have to make notes and contact his family asap
i see why people laugh a bit at first, but when you think about it for a minute, it's not funny

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Posted: Aug 6, 2021 - 11:09am

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I sure hope the CIA, NSA, FBI and all those guys know what they are doing seeing how they are in charge
{#Eek}
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the man is old, past his prime, and probably shouldn't be president (what were the alternatives?), but it's worth remembering he does stutter. 
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Posted: Aug 6, 2021 - 9:44am

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Posted: Jul 24, 2021 - 5:02am

I sure hope the CIA, NSA, FBI and all those guys know what they are doing seeing how they are in charge{#Eek}:
 
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Posted: Jul 8, 2021 - 10:40am

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Posted: Jul 6, 2021 - 9:54am

 kurtster wrote:

Ya know, I heard a news story back in April where it was said that there would be long delays in processing tax returns this year.  I said ok, it figures and let it go.  Then last week when I decided to post about it, earlier in the day, my boss mentioned that she hadn't got her return yet and I replied that neither have I now that you mention it.  It reminded me of the news story and upon asking around, up until yesterday, in real life, I hadn't found anyone who had either.

Now if I was the real dick head you think I am, I would have mentioned this way back when when I first heard the prediction.  But I didn't.  Now that we have reached Biden's magical 4th of July back to normal, I figured time was up for giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Upon checking at the official website, even though I had e filed back on 10 April, I found that my return has not even begun to be processed and no date for a potential delivery was offered.

So I figure that I have been plenty patient and can now bitch, moan and complain about Biden, same as every one has done the same about every little fuck up of Trump's.  Everyone can say anything they want about Trump, but Biden is off limits around here it clearly appears to be.

So stuff it.  Go chase a car ...


Oh, sh*t I didn’t realize that you and your boss’s refund was delayed too. Hell that changes everything… get that f*ckup Biden out of office Pronto!

Better now?
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Posted: Jul 5, 2021 - 4:17pm

 kurtster wrote:

Ya know, I heard a news story back in April where it was said that there would be long delays in processing tax returns this year.  I said ok, it figures and let it go.  Then last week when I decided to post about it, earlier in the day, my boss mentioned that she hadn't got her return yet and I replied that neither have I now that you mention it.  It reminded me of the news story and upon asking around, up until yesterday, in real life, I hadn't found anyone who had either.

Now if I was the real dick head you think I am, I would have mentioned this way back when when I first heard the prediction.  But I didn't.  Now that we have reached Biden's magical 4th of July back to normal, I figured time was up for giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Upon checking at the official website, even though I had e filed back on 10 April, I found that my return has not even begun to be processed and no date for a potential delivery was offered.

So I figure that I have been plenty patient and can now bitch, moan and complain about Biden, same as every one has done the same about every little fuck up of Trump's.  Everyone can say anything they want about Trump, but Biden is off limits around here it clearly appears to be.

So stuff it.  Go chase a car ...

You are the only one who thinks Biden is off limits around here. I just happen to think he is dealing with fixing all trump's shit that you ignored because of the wall or whatever. Knock yourself out, post what you want about Biden and I'll think about whether it is worth getting upset about.

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Posted: Jul 5, 2021 - 4:16pm

 kurtster wrote:

Ya know, I heard a news story back in April where it was said that there would be long delays in processing tax returns this year.  I said ok, it figures and let it go.  Then last week when I decided to post about it, earlier in the day, my boss mentioned that she hadn't got her return yet and I replied that neither have I now that you mention it.  It reminded me of the news story and upon asking around, up until yesterday, in real life, I hadn't found anyone who had either.

Now if I was the real dick head you think I am, I would have mentioned this way back when when I first heard the prediction.  But I didn't.  Now that we have reached Biden's magical 4th of July back to normal, I figured time was up for giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Upon checking at the official website, even though I had e filed back on 10 April, I found that my return has not even begun to be processed and no date for a potential delivery was offered.

So I figure that I have been plenty patient and can now bitch, moan and complain about Biden, same as every one has done the same about every little fuck up of Trump's.  Everyone can say anything they want about Trump, but Biden is off limits around here it clearly appears to be.

So stuff it.  Go chase a car ...

You are the only one who thinks Biden is off limits around here. I just happen to think he is dealing with fixing all trump's shit that you ignored because of the wall or whatever. Knock yourself out, post what you want about Biden and I'll think about whether it is worth getting upset about.

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Posted: Jul 5, 2021 - 12:26pm

 The Mother of all Martyrs wrote:
Everyone can say anything they want about Trump, but Biden is off limits around here it clearly appears to be.

Trumpers had their chance to defend/rebut supposed fuckups from Trump for four years, but they mostly gazed at their navels and kept quiet...


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Posted: Jul 5, 2021 - 12:07pm

 kurtster wrote:

Now if I was the real dick head you think I am, I would have mentioned this way back when when I first heard the prediction.  But I didn't.  Now that we have reached Biden's magical 4th of July back to normal, I figured time was up for giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Upon checking at the official website, even though I had e filed back on 10 April, I found that my return has not even begun to be processed and no date for a potential delivery was offered.


Kurt...it's your money, and you have a right to it ASAP.  No arguments....

The irony in your assessment of blame is that somehow Joe could have fixed this.   The last guy....who you like...is a fraud and a known tax cheat.  He's been under audit since the Carter administration, and so much as confessed the other night he's a cheat.  He doesn't like the IRS....so what did he do? 

He cut funding to the organization, and then issued checks with his name on them that had to be reconciled by the IRS.   Less money....fewer people....small government....more work.  Blame the new guy, who's already said he wants to increase funding to the IRS.  Next year, you'll be complaining the federal budget is too high and we need to reduce the deficit (but raising taxes will kill the economy).

After that, you can blame Biden for your slow package delivery by the USPS.  

You deserve your money....but your placement of blame shows how willing you are to ignore facts to attack Biden and defend Trump.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2021 - 11:01am

 VV wrote:
kurtster’s tax refund is late and the world is going to hell-in-a-handbasket.
…while we are on your personal grievances… how is your cable reception these days? Oh and how about your cell reception? Don’t want to forget about that….
 
Ya know, I heard a news story back in April where it was said that there would be long delays in processing tax returns this year.  I said ok, it figures and let it go.  Then last week when I decided to post about it, earlier in the day, my boss mentioned that she hadn't got her return yet and I replied that neither have I now that you mention it.  It reminded me of the news story and upon asking around, up until yesterday, in real life, I hadn't found anyone who had either.

Now if I was the real dick head you think I am, I would have mentioned this way back when when I first heard the prediction.  But I didn't.  Now that we have reached Biden's magical 4th of July back to normal, I figured time was up for giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Upon checking at the official website, even though I had e filed back on 10 April, I found that my return has not even begun to be processed and no date for a potential delivery was offered.

So I figure that I have been plenty patient and can now bitch, moan and complain about Biden, same as every one has done the same about every little fuck up of Trump's.  Everyone can say anything they want about Trump, but Biden is off limits around here it clearly appears to be.

So stuff it.  Go chase a car ...
VV

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Posted: Jul 4, 2021 - 7:46am

kurtster’s tax refund is late and the world is going to hell-in-a-handbasket.


…while we are on your personal grievances… how is your cable reception these days? Oh and how about your cell reception? Don’t want to forget about that….



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