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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 9:45pm

 kcar wrote:
Still a convicted felon. Still an adjudicated rapist. Still facing numerous felony indictments.  Still a smelly, narcissistic, lying, incompetent buffoon. His Hitler-worship is really the rancid cherry on top. 
 
And Joe is still Joe.  Your point is ?
kcar

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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 8:20pm

 kurtster wrote:

How predictable.  A 16 second sound bite that accomplishes all the conformation your bias requires.

And you call me gullible.  Hah !

I took an unattributed trolling quote from the Trump thread and posted it here where such a remark would be much more credible.  Referencing a man who had to be publicly shamed to acknowledge his own granddaughter.  You really think he cares about anyone but himself ?  I laugh every time one of you responds to one of my posts with some form of you really think Trump cares about you / me.  Oh please.  Especially when you all pretend that Biden really cares about you as if he really does.  It is you who are gullible. 

It is a tell of where you get your news from that drives you to this predictable knee jerk / pearl clutching moment.  You run out of the building screaming, I knew it, I knew it all along, now I have proof !   I've watched enough Trump rallies to know there is a 2 or 3 minute set up for a remark like that.  The context matters.  I would like to see those 2 or 3 minutes before passing any judgement.  Not you, you've got all that you need to go ahead with your vote for Biden.  He's not talking to you anyway.  He's talking about you and all of your fellow echochambermates.  You're hopelessly lost and will not change your mind about Trump, period.

We wait to see who reacts to these setups.  We are not surprised.  Like I said, its a tell.


Still a convicted felon. Still an adjudicated rapist. Still facing numerous felony indictments. 

Still a smelly, narcissistic, lying, incompetent buffoon. His Hitler-worship is really the rancid cherry on top. 

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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 2:42pm

 kurtster wrote:

How predictable.  A 16 second sound bite that accomplishes all the conformation your bias requires.

And you call me gullible.  Hah !

I took an unattributed trolling quote from the Trump thread and posted it here where such a remark would be much more credible.  Referencing a man who had to be publicly shamed to acknowledge his own granddaughter.  You really think he cares about anyone but himself ?  I laugh every time one of you responds to one of my posts with some form of you really think Trump cares about you / me.  Oh please.  Especially when you all pretend that Biden really cares about you as if he really does.  It is you who are gullible. 

It is a tell of where you get your news from that drives you to this predictable knee jerk / pearl clutching moment.  You run out of the building screaming, I knew it, I knew it all along, now I have proof !   I've watched enough Trump rallies to know there is a 2 or 3 minute set up for a remark like that.  The context matters.  I would like to see those 2 or 3 minutes before passing any judgement.  Not you, you've got all that you need to go ahead with your vote for Biden.  He's not talking to you anyway.  He's talking about you and all of your fellow echochambermates.  You're hopelessly lost and will not change your mind about Trump, period.

We wait to see who reacts to these setups.  We are not surprised.  Like I said, its a tell.

Seems like you were itching for some sort of groundswell of anti-Trump remarks to your previous post. 
 
And when you really didn't get much of anything... you manufactured it anyway. 

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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 10:28am

Biden Loves to Tell Tall Tales. We Cut Them Down to Size.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 10:22am

 kurtster wrote:
"I don't care about you, I just want your vote."


I still believe that some non-zero portion of what the failed steak salesman says are really subtle jokes. But two things: 1) he’s no good at telling jokes and 2) if it’s not his talent, he shouldn’t be doing it if he wants to be President. For instance, this might have been a joke, but it never ever should’ve been said in public. 


kurtster

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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 8:48am

 islander wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
"I don't care about you, I just want your vote."
what are you on about today? did Biden make trump say it? Are you just proud of him for 'keeping it real'?  
 
How predictable.  A 16 second sound bite that accomplishes all the conformation your bias requires.

And you call me gullible.  Hah !

I took an unattributed trolling quote from the Trump thread and posted it here where such a remark would be much more credible.  Referencing a man who had to be publicly shamed to acknowledge his own granddaughter.  You really think he cares about anyone but himself ?  I laugh every time one of you responds to one of my posts with some form of you really think Trump cares about you / me.  Oh please.  Especially when you all pretend that Biden really cares about you as if he really does.  It is you who are gullible. 

It is a tell of where you get your news from that drives you to this predictable knee jerk / pearl clutching moment.  You run out of the building screaming, I knew it, I knew it all along, now I have proof !   I've watched enough Trump rallies to know there is a 2 or 3 minute set up for a remark like that.  The context matters.  I would like to see those 2 or 3 minutes before passing any judgement.  Not you, you've got all that you need to go ahead with your vote for Biden.  He's not talking to you anyway.  He's talking about you and all of your fellow echochambermates.  You're hopelessly lost and will not change your mind about Trump, period.

We wait to see who reacts to these setups.  We are not surprised.  Like I said, its a tell.
islander

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Posted: Jun 10, 2024 - 5:37am

 kurtster wrote:
"I don't care about you, I just want your vote."


what are you on about today?

did Biden make trump say it? Are you just proud of him for 'keeping it real'?  

kurtster

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Posted: Jun 9, 2024 - 10:58pm

"I don't care about you, I just want your vote."
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Posted: Jun 7, 2024 - 7:53am

 rgio wrote:

The current beneficiaries of a two-tiered justice system (you try attacking a judge while under a gag order...) want you to believe they want to destroy the very system they abuse.

Plea deals are unacceptable when offered to the opposition.

I think Hunter should spend a few years in jail...and we should do the same for all gun violations going forward.

Where is the NRA in all of this? Must have them in a pickle. If Hunter was a REPUBLICAN politician's son they would be all over this. 

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Posted: Jun 6, 2024 - 5:54pm

 steeler wrote:


The agreement on the gun charge was that Biden would enter into what is known as a diversion agreement under which he would not be prosecuted for that offense as long as he met certain requirements. If he did, the gun case would just go away (it is like serving probation without prosecution).. If there is a violation of the diversion agreement, the case is prosecuted. The problem was that the prosecution and defense plea agreement would have had the judge in an enforcement capacity if the prosecution thought the diversion agreement had been violated — she would decide whether it had been violated. The reason why she questioned this is because the decision to prosecute is a function of the executive branch, not the judicial branch.

The other, bigger issue was that the defense thought the plea agreement covered all offenses that could be prosecuted at that time — beyond the tax and gun charges. The prosecution thought otherwise. The USAO is still investigating Biden’s business practices in Ukraine and elsewhere. As with any plea agreement, the judge has to make sure the defendant understands and agrees to the plea. Here, it was obvious there was disagreement among the attorneys.

I raised all this because I think that Delaware judge, like Judge Mershan in the Trump trial, seemed to be doing her job as opposed to bending to political winds. I say that with the caveat that this opinion of mine is based on what I knew of each judge’s decisions as reported.

(probably more than you —  or anyone, — want or need to know. I get carried away sometimes . . .)


I meant to thank you earlier for this but my browser had a stroke or something. 

steeler

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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 11:15am

 islander wrote:

Noted. I haven't followed this very closely, so appreciate the correction. Too many politicians under indictment to keep up with these days...

So was the issue that he was paying a tax fine, but getting relief from the gun charge? 



The agreement on the gun charge was that Biden would enter into what is known as a diversion agreement under which he would not be prosecuted for that offense as long as he met certain requirements. If he did, the gun case would just go away (it is like serving probation without prosecution).. If there is a violation of the diversion agreement, the case is prosecuted. The problem was that the prosecution and defense plea agreement would have had the judge in an enforcement capacity if the prosecution thought the diversion agreement had been violated — she would decide whether it had been violated. The reason why she questioned this is because the decision to prosecute is a function of the executive branch, not the judicial branch.

The other, bigger issue was that the defense thought the plea agreement covered all offenses that could be prosecuted at that time — beyond the tax and gun charges. The prosecution thought otherwise. The USAO is still investigating Biden’s business practices in Ukraine and elsewhere. As with any plea agreement, the judge has to make sure the defendant understands and agrees to the plea. Here, it was obvious there was disagreement among the attorneys.

I raised all this because I think that Delaware judge, like Judge Mershan in the Trump trial, seemed to be doing her job as opposed to bending to political winds. I say that with the caveat that this opinion of mine is based on what I knew of each judge’s decisions as reported.

(probably more than you —  or anyone, — want or need to know. I get carried away sometimes . . .)

islander

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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 10:45am

 steeler wrote:

Just to clarify: the judge questioned whether the prosecution and defense were in agreement on what other criminal offenses were covered by the plea agreement. Turns out that they were not. She also questioned whether she had the authority to retain jurisdiction over what really was a deferred prosecution agreement on the gun charges. She was correct in questioning both.




Noted. I haven't followed this very closely, so appreciate the correction. Too many politicians under indictment to keep up with these days...

So was the issue that he was paying a tax fine, but getting relief from the gun charge? 

steeler

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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 10:01am

 islander wrote:


He tried that, but the judge protested the agreement saying it was too lenient. Some people apparently wanted a big public trial for some reason.

Just to clarify: the judge questioned whether the prosecution and defense were in agreement on what other criminal offenses were covered by the plea agreement. Turns out that they were not. She also questioned whether she had the authority to retain jurisdiction over what really was a deferred prosecution agreement on the gun charges. She was correct in questioning both.



rgio

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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 9:51am

 islander wrote:
He tried that, but the judge protested the agreement saying it was too lenient. Some people apparently wanted a big public trial for some reason.

The current beneficiaries of a two-tiered justice system (you try attacking a judge while under a gag order...) want you to believe they want to destroy the very system they abuse.

Plea deals are unacceptable when offered to the opposition.

I think Hunter should spend a few years in jail...and we should do the same for all gun violations going forward.
islander

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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 9:48am

 Steely_D wrote:

Man, Hunter should just plead guilty in return for an appropriate sentence. Doesn’t need prison; does need rehab; and does need probation/fine.



He tried that, but the judge protested the agreement saying it was too lenient. Some people apparently wanted a big public trial for some reason.
kurtster

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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 9:11am

 R_P wrote:
MAGA Joe
 
HB 2 was tougher.  Had the so called bipartisan Senate  bill with the 5000 daily cutoff limit passed, Joe would be unable to do his 2000 or 2500 per day limit his new executive order is going to do.  The 5000 would be law eliminating the option for an executive order reducing it.

Another bad law that thankfully did not get passed.
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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 9:04am

 Steely_D wrote:

Man, Hunter should just plead guilty in return for an appropriate sentence. Doesn’t need prison; does need rehab; and does need probation/fine.



His Daddy will just pardon him.
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Posted: Jun 4, 2024 - 8:59am

Man, Hunter should just plead guilty in return for an appropriate sentence. Doesn’t need prison; does need rehab; and does need probation/fine.
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Posted: Jun 3, 2024 - 3:06pm

MAGA Joe

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