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Steely_D

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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 10:12am

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House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

After four months of investigation, House Republicans who promised to use their new majority to unearth evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden acknowledged on Wednesday that they had yet to uncover incriminating material about him, despite their frequent insinuations that he and his family have been involved in criminal conduct and corruption.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0...

ââ¦even though itâs RAMPANT and OBVIOUSâ¦â says people who want facts to conform to their belief system.

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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 9:58am

kurtster wrote:

Something, something, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah.

If only the republicans controlled the house and could use subpoena power to get details and evidence... oh wait, they can, and they did:

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

rgio

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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 8:02am

kurtster wrote:

.... Even with all of this, based upon comments and replies to items I have posted no one currently involved in this conversation believes that the laptop is a big deal and that the letter written by the 51 spooks had no malevolent intentions designed to influence the election, nor did the subsequent actions taken against people and businesses to suppress the story is a big deal. It is nothing to see, just move along, right ?

Lastly, can you tell me why the FBI employs roughly 700 CPA's and 600 forensic accountants ? Why so many and what do they do ?

Might they be involved in a case such as the Bidens' where the dots are connected in order to form a case strong enough for a conviction even though Joe himself is not directly named ?

Kurt, we've beat this one up about as much as possible. More links aren't adding value... we should just discuss if it's going to continue.

I think the majority of people (both here and everywhere) see the laptop issue as "nothing to see" for two reasons. The first is that there is a lot of innuendoes and circumstantial evidence around an asset with questionable custody and provenance for an extended period of time without a documented connection to the President, and the second is the people who are so vigorously attempting to turn this into Watergate.

I know you're never going to agree with this, but what most people see is an over-the-top crusade by the Right to create yet another "whataboutism" in the service of DJT. You feel as though Trump has to endure witchhunt after witchhunt... so you are trying to prove that all politicians are corrupt and use their office for personal benefit, making Trump like everyone else. I mean... c'mon.... Hunter is his kid...and who doesn't know what their kids are up to, especially when they are using your name and likeness for profit. Joe has to be in on it!

That's a theory, to date without any proof.

The fundamental difference is that we have video, audio, and documentation showing your High Priest leading the hive in a dance, while on the left you have a disgraced witch who hangs on the fringes of the coven. There may be something there, but Matt Gaetz, the Washington Examiner, and the NY Post are not reliable, objective sources, and their focus is more about telling YOU what you want to hear and believe than it is about facts of the truth.

Lastly, you know I can't confess why the accountants aren't working the Biden case, it would be a violation of the deep state membership code of conduct I signed. What I can say is that your last sentence is telling: You want a conviction regardless of how or even if the dots are connected. With Trump, the indictments and lawsuits start with the proof. There is no hunting for a witch, he's openly professed his beliefs for all to see. Your quest is to somehow make them appear similar, and by doing so diminish the documented proof regarding the damage and risk that Trump represents to the country in the process. That's not law and order, it's political revenge. You have sold your principals to win at all costs. That's something that most Americans won't do, and why Trump is the Democrat's greatest hope to retain the White House in 2024.

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 9:31pm

rgio wrote:

kurtster wrote:

They are all retired ? Are you sure ? Next tell me why the FBI (speaking of active government employees) did not come out and state that they had already determined a long time ago that the laptop in their possession, was real and that the contents had been verified ? They could have and should have given the grievous lie in that statement made by the 51 spooks.

Regarding them being retired...I have no idea...but Jim Jordan said they were. Regarding the laptop and its contents, the reason that so much of it remains up in the air is that there are multiple files and folders established in the late summer/early fall of 2020...a year+ after Hunter dropped it off. Should we ignore the contents of the folders labeled “Biden Burisma”, “Hunter. Burisma Documents”, “Salacious Pics Package” and “Big Guy File” (all created in Sept 2020...some from as far away as the West Coast)? Should the FBI go public with that information a month or two before an election? The questionable custody and the "post-Hunter created files" raise serious questions about the validity of any of it. Some of the emails have since been verified (a relatively small number), but you can't go 'live' with that shit not knowing if any of it is real. That's what the "51 Spooks" were saying. With Rudy involved on behalf of a pathological liar, the odds seem pretty good that things may not be as they appear.
As I mentioned before... Trump was the beneficiary of another "disclosure" that was a big nothing 4 years earlier. It's not unreasonable for the intelligence community to say "Fool me once, shame on me...." AFWIW...he's not the candidate! Sure...Joe may have been some "downstream" mafioso skimming off of deals...but you can't say that until you have proof. Suggesting we'll "cut the big guy in" isn't enough to make public statements leading up to an election. What's startling is your hawkish attention to millions for Hunter, when the Trump kids are getting billions from the Saudis....you remember them...killed Khashoggi... pay Don millions to use his golf courses and facilities for LIV golf (don't worry...last weeks subpoena was just more harassment...nothing to bother with I'm sure). You profess to care about back office dealings and skimming while pretzeling yourself to support the biggest grifter in the history of US politics. A man jealous of Putin's ability to skim. I don't love Biden, and don't want him to run again... but Trump is a threat to the financial and social underpinnings of the country. You seem to enjoy his setting the fire and believe his bluster about knowing what's best. The only thing that matters to him is what's best for Trump.

Well it seems that the signatories may be retired from their official government employment yet nearly all are still actively involved in the intelligence community and still possess their top secret clearances. There was a Congressional action initiated against those seeking to remove their clearances as a result of participating in the letter.

The signatories also are unrepentant and some have said that they would do it again.

Spies who lie: 51 ‘intelligence’ experts refuse to apologize for discrediting true Hunter Biden story

You say that "some" and only "a relatively small number" of the emails have been verified. How does that square with this report ?

168,000 deleted files recovered from Hunter Biden's laptop

A cyber forensics expert commissioned by the Washington Examiner recovered over 168,000 deleted files from a copy of Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop.

Many of the deleted files were system files, application files, or duplicates of user files stored elsewhere on the laptop.

Some of the recovered data, however, shed light on his financial dealings in 2018 and early 2019, as well as his personal dealings during that time frame. Also recovered from the drive were deleted pictures of government ID cards for two individuals linked to President Joe Biden's son.

Konstantinos "Gus" Dimitrelos, a former Secret Service agent who has testified in over 100 classified, criminal, and civil matters, retrieved the deleted files from unallocated space on the hard drive using a technique called data carving.

The existence of recoverable deleted user files adds another layer of authenticity to the hard drive, Dimitrelos said.

"In order for user-created data — including personal photographs, bank records, invoices, business records, third-party data such as the driver's licenses of other persons, chat conversations, and medical records, as examples — to exist within the unallocated hard drive space, the computer user would have had to manually delete the files," Dimitrelos said. "Any Robert Hunter Biden recovered files in unallocated space was there as a result of deletions by the user ‘roberthunter.’"

Dimitrelos has examined the Washington Examiner's copy of the hard drive and determined with 100% certainty that Hunter Biden "was the only person responsible for the activity on this hard drive and all of its stored data."

Many of the recovered user files were attachments to text messages that Hunter Biden sent to or received from his associates. The text messages contain markers indicating that an attachment was deleted.

Even with all of this, based upon comments and replies to items I have posted no one currently involved in this conversation believes that the laptop is a big deal and that the letter written by the 51 spooks had no malevolent intentions designed to influence the election, nor did the subsequent actions taken against people and businesses to suppress the story is a big deal. It is nothing to see, just move along, right ?

Lastly, can you tell me why the FBI employs roughly 700 CPA's and 600 forensic accountants ? Why so many and what do they do ?

Might they be involved in a case such as the Bidens' where the dots are connected in order to form a case strong enough for a conviction even though Joe himself is not directly named ?

steeler

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 6:55pm

kurtster wrote:

We also have in the FBI's refusal to oblige with the subpoena of the document identified by the whistleblower that there would be an "accommodation process" made to the committee regarding the document. The reasonable conclusion is that the document does exist. And besides it being released we also need to know what the FBI did with the information and why or why not.

The Chinese style of bribery payments are to enrich the family of the agent, not the agent themselves. The reason for this method is obvious.

The Biden family has been determined by bank records to have at least 20 LLC's. The purposes or enterprises engaged in regarding these LLC's is presently unknown. We do know that roughly $10 million has been shuffled through these LLC's with direct payments to many Biden family members who have also been named in the records.

I sign on to Rgioâs post. He has deconstructed it better than I could.

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 6:15pm

Steely_D wrote:

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0...

If Jim Jordan had a heart it would be broken.

Steely_D

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 5:32pm

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0...

rgio

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 1:21pm

kurtster wrote:

They are all retired ? Are you sure ?

Next tell me why the FBI (speaking of active government employees) did not come out and state that they had already determined a long time ago that the laptop in their possession, was real and that the contents had been verified ? They could have and should have given the grievous lie in that statement made by the 51 spooks.

Regarding them being retired...I have no idea...but Jim Jordan said they were.

Regarding the laptop and its contents, the reason that so much of it remains up in the air is that there are multiple files and folders established in the late summer/early fall of 2020...a year+ after Hunter dropped it off. Should we ignore the contents of the folders labeled âBiden Burismaâ, âHunter. Burisma Documentsâ, âSalacious Pics Packageâ and âBig Guy Fileâ (all created in Sept 2020...some from as far away as the West Coast)? Should the FBI go public with that information a month or two before an election?

The questionable custody and the "post-Hunter created files" raise serious questions about the validity of any of it. Some of the emails have since been verified (a relatively small number), but you can't go 'live' with that shit not knowing if any of it is real. That's what the "51 Spooks" were saying. With Rudy involved on behalf of a pathological liar, the odds seem pretty good that things may not be as they appear.

As I mentioned before... Trump was the beneficiary of another "disclosure" that was a big nothing 4 years earlier. It's not unreasonable for the intelligence community to say "Fool me once, shame on me...."

AFWIW...he's not the candidate! Sure...Joe may have been some "downstream" mafioso skimming off of deals...but you can't say that until you have proof. Suggesting we'll "cut the big guy in" isn't enough to make public statements leading up to an election.

What's startling is your hawkish attention to millions for Hunter, when the Trump kids are getting billions from the Saudis....you remember them...killed Khashoggi... pay Don millions to use his golf courses and facilities for LIV golf (don't worry...last weeks subpoena was just more harassment...nothing to bother with I'm sure).

You profess to care about back office dealings and skimming while pretzeling yourself to support the biggest grifter in the history of US politics. A man jealous of Putin's ability to skim. I don't love Biden, and don't want him to run again... but Trump is a threat to the financial and social underpinnings of the country. You seem to enjoy his setting the fire and believe his bluster about knowing what's best. The only thing that matters to him is what's best for Trump.

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 11:58am

rgio wrote:

Sure...but the term "51 retired spooks" will be trending on twitter any moment... so stay sharp. Kurt forgot the "retired" in his use of the term... just makes the Deep State so much more real if you think about them as active government employees.

They are all retired ? Are you sure ?

Next tell me why the FBI (speaking of active government employees) did not come out and state that they had already determined a long time ago that the laptop in their possession, was real and that the contents had been verified ? They could have and should have given the grievous lie in that statement made by the 51 spooks.

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 11:35am

steeler wrote:

From Washington Post column by Eugene Robinson today, noting Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy’s interview Thursday of House Republican James Comer: “You don’t actually have any facts to that point,” Doocy said Thursday to House Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.), who was trying to sell the idea that the president, his brother James and his son Hunter were part of some shadowy influence-peddling scheme. “And the other thing is, of all those names, the one person who didn’t profit — there’s no evidence that Joe Biden did anything illegally.”

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 11:33am

steeler wrote:

From Washington Post column by Eugene Robinson today, noting Fox & Friends host Steve Doocyâs interview Thursday of House Republican James Comer:

âYou donât actually have any facts to that point,â Doocy said Thursday to House Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.), who was trying to sell the idea that the president, his brother James and his son Hunter were part of some shadowy influence-peddling scheme. âAnd the other thing is, of all those names, the one person who didnât profit â thereâs no evidence that Joe Biden did anything illegally.â

steeler

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 10:38am

kurtster

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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 9:13am

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Did I stutter or something ?

Here try this again ...

What do you call 51 government spooks led by the soon to be Secretary of State (his reward) in creating a letter that is an outright lie in order to kill an inconvenient news story for the sole purpose of swinging an election in their desired direction ? Oh, that's right ! It is just a pure coincidence. Maybe if it was 52 instead of just 51, then it crosses the threshold of a conspiracy or maybe something worse. But I see your point. ... 51 is just not enough to pass the sniff test.

kcar

Posted: May 11, 2023 - 10:54pm

kurtster wrote:

I'm not paying much if any attention to Trump right now. Much too soon to waste time on that. I'm watching Biden, thank you.

Since you brought up January 6, I'll say that what we are learning about the deep state CIA driven letter that called Hunter's laptop Russian disinformation designed to protect and elect Biden, that letter makes January 6 look like January 5. The letter cobbled together in record time for Biden to cite in the debate with Trump. That is how the election was rigged and stolen. And also proves the existence of the deep state as far as I am concerned.

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Posted: May 11, 2023 - 8:53pm

rgio wrote:

You better lighten up on the Q punch... it's starting to do permanent damage. Hillary didn't run around saying Trump wasn't elected because Comey release a BS memo, she said Trump won because the votes were counted and he had more where they needed to be. Fast forward 6 years, and you're whining about a rigged and stolen election based on some NY Times "deep state" research that includes the Russians working AGAINST Trump? Donnie all but got down and blew Putin in Helsinki, and still won't say a bad word about him. If the Russians were working against him...why isn't he angry? No nicknames to Vlad? The deep state is anyone doing their job that has facts you don't like. Sure, there are people who hate Trump...and there are people who hate Biden. But there isn't a small group of leaders commanding the troops to manage elections. You don't want to waste time on Trump....because all of your time is "invested" learning about "facts" found on a laptop the Republicans have had in their possession for 2 years. Keep up the good work, and let us know when they press charges, indict him, find out about his missing child support, etc.

You better start paying attention to something else besides Trump. Trump is the shiny object being waved in front of your face so you don't look (won't look) at anything else.

It is working very well based upon your reactions.

Sorry, I don't do Q. The only time I see anything about Q is when someone like you brings it up on these boards.

What do you call 51 government spooks led by the soon to be Secretary of State (his reward) in creating a letter that is an outright lie in order to kill an inconvenient news story for the sole purpose of swinging an election in their desired direction ? Oh, that's right ! It is just a pure coincidence. Maybe if it was 52 instead of just 51, then it crosses the threshold of a conspiracy or maybe something worse. But I see your point. After all, you are the numbers guy around here. 51 is just not enough to pass the sniff test.

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Posted: May 11, 2023 - 6:08pm

kurtster wrote:

You better lighten up on the Q punch... it's starting to do permanent damage.

Hillary didn't run around saying Trump wasn't elected because Comey release a BS memo, she said Trump won because the votes were counted and he had more where they needed to be. Fast forward 6 years, and you're whining about a rigged and stolen election based on some NY Times "deep state" research that includes the Russians working AGAINST Trump? Donnie all but got down and blew Putin in Helsinki, and still won't say a bad word about him. If the Russians were working against him...why isn't he angry? No nicknames to Vlad?

The deep state is anyone doing their job that has facts you don't like. Sure, there are people who hate Trump...and there are people who hate Biden. But there isn't a small group of leaders commanding the troops to manage elections.

You don't want to waste time on Trump....because all of your time is "invested" learning about "facts" found on a laptop the Republicans have had in their possession for 2 years. Keep up the good work, and let us know when they press charges, indict him, find out about his missing child support, etc.

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Posted: May 11, 2023 - 4:22pm

rgio wrote:

kurtster wrote:

Do you intentionally ignore what's written, or do you just want to re-state your propaganda? Your boy Donnie double-down LAST NIGHT on the potential to reinstate HISpolicy... and he tells you that he was separating families.

But there was at least one thing he said during the CNN Town Hall on Wednesday evening that was less predictable: he refused to rule out reimplementing family separations at the southern border if elected president again. “When you have that policy, people don’t come,” Trump told moderator Kaitlan Collins. “If a family hears that they’re going to be separated—they love their family—they don’t come. I know it sounds harsh.”

Collins pressed Trump further about whether that meant he would reinstate the policy if he won a second term. “We have to save our country,” he told her. “When you say to a family that if you come we’re going to break you up, they don’t come.”

Trump’s family separations policy barely lasted a matter of months. It was widely castigated as perhaps the most incendiary and cruel action taken by his administration. Trump formally adopted the measure in April 2018, saying it would deter illegal immigration. But after international condemnation and vehement domestic backlash, the president signed an executive order in June 2018 ending family separations.

This does not happen today. Families are not separated. Enforcing the laws? If you create the law then you can't use the "I'm just following the rules" excuse. If you're not listening to him, how can you continue to support his positions...including from last night... - January 6 was a beautiful day, and almost everyone should be pardoned
- Republicans shouldn't raise the debt ceiling...even though it was raised 3 times in 4 years. We should default on debt. You want to complain about the price of oil now...
- He won't support Ukraine... but he can end the war in a day.
- The 2020 election was rigged.
- Sexual assault is OK... because it's been happening forever. As for the shell companies... show me the money, and if it's found to be illegal, he should be prosecuted. You should try googling Trump shell companies... I'm not going to count them, but there are a lot. Don't forget, you're accusing Joe of doing something unproven, in support of a guy who ran a company CONVICTED of criminal fraud last year. I will again say... DHS needs to handle minors safely. We wouldn't have this problem if Trump delivered on what he promised... a wall paid for by Mexico.

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Posted: May 11, 2023 - 12:24pm

kurtster wrote:

Do you intentionally ignore what's written, or do you just want to re-state your propaganda?

Your boy Donnie double-down LAST NIGHT on the potential to reinstate HIS policy... and he tells you that he was separating families.

But there was at least one thing he said during the CNN Town Hall on Wednesday evening that was less predictable: he refused to rule out reimplementing family separations at the southern border if elected president again. âWhen you have that policy, people donât come,â Trump told moderator Kaitlan Collins. âIf a family hears that theyâre going to be separatedâthey love their familyâthey donât come. I know it sounds harsh.â

Collins pressed Trump further about whether that meant he would reinstate the policy if he won a second term. âWe have to save our country,â he told her. âWhen you say to a family that if you come weâre going to break you up, they donât come.â

Trumpâs family separations policy barely lasted a matter of months. It was widely castigated as perhaps the most incendiary and cruel action taken by his administration. Trump formally adopted the measure in April 2018, saying it would deter illegal immigration. But after international condemnation and vehement domestic backlash, the president signed an executive order in June 2018 ending family separations.

This does not happen today. Families are not separated. Enforcing the laws? If you create the law then you can't use the "I'm just following the rules" excuse.

If you're not listening to him, how can you continue to support his positions...including from last night...

- January 6 was a beautiful day, and almost everyone should be pardoned
- Republicans shouldn't raise the debt ceiling...even though it was raised 3 times in 4 years. We should default on debt. You want to complain about the price of oil now...
- He won't support Ukraine... but he can end the war in a day.
- The 2020 election was rigged.
- Sexual assault is OK... because it's been happening forever.

As for the shell companies... show me the money, and if it's found to be illegal, he should be prosecuted. You should try googling Trump shell companies... I'm not going to count them, but there are a lot. Don't forget, you're accusing Joe of doing something unproven, in support of a guy who ran a company CONVICTED of criminal fraud last year.

I will again say... DHS needs to handle minors safely. We wouldn't have this problem if Trump delivered on what he promised... a wall paid for by Mexico.

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Posted: May 11, 2023 - 9:38am

rgio wrote:

kurtster wrote:

Here's some red meat for all of you Trump whataboutism-ists who like to compare Trump to Biden in Biden's defense. You all went crazy when Trump "lost" 10,000 UAC's. Remember that ? Children in cages ? Well it's radio silence over Biden losing 85,000 UAC's. The news is well over a month old now. So go ahead and defend Biden by comparing him with Trump over this. And just incase no one believes me or your news feed doesn't speak of it ... Hearing Wrap Up: ORR Director Fails to Answer Questions About 85,000 Lost Unaccompanied Alien Children, Flawed Vetting of Sponsors, and More

“Since President Biden has been in office, there have been over 4.8 million migrant encounters at the Southwest border, not including the roughly 1.3 million gotaways who evaded law enforcement completely and entered our country undetected. This unprecedented national security and humanitarian crisis has overwhelmed federal officials and endangered the well-being of unaccompanied and migrant children as a result,” Rep. Jake LaTurner (R-Kan.) said during the hearing.

In Fiscal Year 2022, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) referred nearly 129,000 UAC to HHS compared to roughly 15,000 in Fiscal Year 2020

I think everyone would agree that DHS has to be able to answer questions about UAC's, but your whataboutism, as usual, compares fact sets that are different. The issue most had wasn't Trump's treatment of UAC's, it was his "zero-tolerance" policy of family separation, created as a threat to deter families from crossing the border. Trump was creating UAC's, jailing the parents, and then losing the connections between the kids he was taking away and those he was throwing in jail and then deporting. As Jeff Sessions said in 2018 when the policy was created "If you don't want your child separated, then don't bring them across the border illegally."

Your comments merely reinforce your willingness to A) ignore details and B) use every opportunity to suggest a double standard that usually doesn't exist. Border security is a problem, but an administrator not being able to answer specific questions during a hearing doesn't equate to a president taking kids from their parents, putting the parents on a plane, and not knowing whose kids they are.

Trump was separating children from adults as the law required. That is what I mean about enforcing laws so that we can determine good ones from bad ones and change the bad ones, rather than just ignore them when it is expedient. So 85,000 missing children doesn't upset you much ? Just the 10,000 Trump is responsible for. Ok.

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So did you hear the one where the Biden family has around 20 LLC's ? No ? Don't worry few have. Problem is that no one knows or can say just exactly what these companies actually do. Other than move money around to various family members.

Don't worry your little head about any of this stuff. No need to google it. It's all just more Russian disinformation.

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Posted: May 10, 2023 - 5:08am

kurtster wrote:

Here's some red meat for all of you Trump whataboutism-ists who like to compare Trump to Biden in Biden's defense.

You all went crazy when Trump "lost" 10,000 UAC's. Remember that ? Children in cages ?

Well it's radio silence over Biden losing 85,000 UAC's. The news is well over a month old now. So go ahead and defend Biden by comparing him with Trump over this.

And just incase no one believes me or your news feed doesn't speak of it ...

Hearing Wrap Up: ORR Director Fails to Answer Questions About 85,000 Lost Unaccompanied Alien Children, Flawed Vetting of Sponsors, and More

âSince President Biden has been in office, there have been over 4.8 million migrant encounters at the Southwest border, not including the roughly 1.3 million gotaways who evaded law enforcement completely and entered our country undetected. This unprecedented national security and humanitarian crisis has overwhelmed federal officials and endangered the well-being of unaccompanied and migrant children as a result,â Rep. Jake LaTurner (R-Kan.) said during the hearing.

In Fiscal Year 2022, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) referred nearly 129,000 UAC to HHS compared to roughly 15,000 in Fiscal Year 2020

I think everyone would agree that DHS has to be able to answer questions about UAC's, but your whataboutism, as usual, compares fact sets that are different.

The issue most had wasn't Trump's treatment of UAC's, it was his "zero-tolerance" policy of family separation, created as a threat to deter families from crossing the border. Trump was creating UAC's, jailing the parents, and then losing the connections between the kids he was taking away and those he was throwing in jail and then deporting. As Jeff Sessions said in 2018 when the policy was created "If you don't want your child separated, then don't bring them across the border illegally."

Your comments merely reinforce your willingness to A) ignore details and B) use every opportunity to suggest a double standard that usually doesn't exist. Border security is a problem, but an administrator not being able to answer specific questions during a hearing doesn't equate to a president taking kids from their parents, putting the parents on a plane, and not knowing whose kids they are.

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