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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:02pm

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I suppose it would be politically incorrect to point out that, even if the accusations against Biden are taken at face value, it would show he believes no means no and stops. 
 
You can only get a no when you ask...

"Are you ok with me pinning you against the wall and sliding a hand up your dress?"
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 5:35pm

I suppose it would be politically incorrect to point out that, even if the accusations against Biden are taken at face value, it would show he believes no means no and stops. 
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 1:09pm

You don't say...
Fox News has unsurprisingly become the go-to cable-news outlet for chatter about the sexual-assault allegations about former Vice President Joe Biden. But when it came to similar (and more voluminous) allegations against his opponent, President Donald Trump, the network was seemingly nowhere to be found.

Earlier this year, Tara Reade claimed that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee forced her against a wall and put his hands up her skirt when she worked as a staffer in his Senate office in the early 1990s. The narrative became instant red meat for Fox News, which has made the allegations one of its top stories across its cable and digital platforms, largely aggregating or riffing on reporting done by mainstream outlets while lamenting a supposed lack of media coverage of the story.

According to a transcript search via media-monitoring service TVEyes, the Reade accusations have been mentioned at least 289 times on the network since late March, when Reade first detailed them in an interview with leftist podcast host Katie Halper.

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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 12:53pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:

RUH-ROH!


THIS 1996 COURT DOCUMENT BOLSTERS RAPE CLAIM AGAINST BIDEN


Normally I'd be compelled to remind people that everyone deserves due process. But Joe Biden just this week reminded people that he doesn't believe in due process. So seriously, screw Joe Biden's due process. I'm not the one who made the rules. I'm just a comedy writer who moonlights in political snark. Who was told I hate women when I said the Brett Kavanaugh allegations looked like a political stunt.

The only question now: Does the DNC drag Biden across the finish line? Or is he just made to feel comfortable until nature takes its course?



https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/tara-reade-joe-biden-1996



 

That court document, filed by Reade's then-estranged husband in 1996, mentions only sexual harassment and not sexual assault. It does not provide any detail that might corroborate Reade's claim of sexual assault.

From https://www.mercedsunstar.com/...




From that same article: 



Asked for comment Thursday, the national press secretary for Biden’s presidential campaign, T.J. Ducklo, said the campaign is not commenting on the latest development at this time.

However, the campaign did provide a comment from Ted Kaufman, who was Biden’s chief of staff at the time. â€œI have consistently said what is the truth here — that she never came to me,” Kaufman said. “I do not remember her, and had she come to me in any of these circumstances, I would remember her. But I do not, because she did not.”

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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 12:19pm

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In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.
 
Don't let ignorance lead you to jump to conclusions about other people.
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:24am

RUH-ROH!


THIS 1996 COURT DOCUMENT BOLSTERS RAPE CLAIM AGAINST BIDEN


Normally I'd be compelled to remind people that everyone deserves due process. But Joe Biden just this week reminded people that he doesn't believe in due process. So seriously, screw Joe Biden's due process. I'm not the one who made the rules. I'm just a comedy writer who moonlights in political snark. Who was told I hate women when I said the Brett Kavanaugh allegations looked like a political stunt.

The only question now: Does the DNC drag Biden across the finish line? Or is he just made to feel comfortable until nature takes its course?



https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/tara-reade-joe-biden-1996



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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:21am

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 sirdroseph wrote:
If we were honest with ourselves this is true and sometimes the price is payed gladly with altruistic intentions for the greater good.   This is why I have no issue at all with someone who votes for Biden and supports the metoo movement in regards to prioritizing the voice and concerns of women victims of sexual assaults or harassment.   Just acknowledge that you are paying a price.   After all,  virtually all of us here have already chosen an alleged abuser of women in an election.  I did it twice myself.  Once in 1992 and again in 96.

In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.

So we all have 3 choices:  Trump, Biden, or neither.  Let's agree neither hands your choice to others.

If you support #metoo, who do you pick?
If you support the pro-life movement, who do you pick?
If you support current gun laws, who do you pick?
Lower taxation, lower regulation, the environment, immigration reform, and anything else that may be important to you, who do you pick?

Analyzing the limitations of your options is critical.  You don't have to surrender your principals to vote...you have to prioritize them.
 
Personally I am holding true to exercising my right to vote as a protest to the 2 party duopoly meaning anybody but a D or an R.  It has never been easier to maintain my tradition started back in aught 10.  In other words, I am in the neither camp.{#Mrgreen}   As long as your reasoning is intellectually honest then you have the credibility to proceed with your choices and makes it easier for those that hold different opinions to work with you and of course that goes both ways. {#Meditate}
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 5:33am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If we were honest with ourselves this is true and sometimes the price is payed gladly with altruistic intentions for the greater good.   This is why I have no issue at all with someone who votes for Biden and supports the metoo movement in regards to prioritizing the voice and concerns of women victims of sexual assaults or harassment.   Just acknowledge that you are paying a price.   After all,  virtually all of us here have already chosen an alleged abuser of women in an election.  I did it twice myself.  Once in 1992 and again in 96.

In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.

So we all have 3 choices:  Trump, Biden, or neither.  Let's agree neither hands your choice to others.

If you support #metoo, who do you pick?
If you support the pro-life movement, who do you pick?
If you support current gun laws, who do you pick?
Lower taxation, lower regulation, the environment, immigration reform, and anything else that may be important to you, who do you pick?

Analyzing the limitations of your options is critical.  You don't have to surrender your principals to vote...you have to prioritize them.
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 2:41am



 R_P wrote:
 sirdroseph wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 sirdroseph wrote:
(...) but I agree with what Biden says above and have never wavered from this notion regardless of the political party of the accused. You should try it, there is no confusion.

Unless there's the threat of a socialist getting the Democratic nomination, in which case you'd feel compelled to vote (expediently) for the lesser evil alleged rapist (aka Trump)...
 
This is true, it would take something that dangerous, but that is about the only thing.
{#Yes}
 Though sadly it looks like the pandemic has pushed us into socialism anyway.  How ironic that we are destroying our grandchildren's hope by having them foot the tab for shutting the economy down and it is helping the environment which was the concern of our grandchildren as well.  Seems like either way, we are screwing our descendants.
{#Cry}
 
Just goes to show that almost everyone has a price (or a fear) that might make them put their principles on hold.


If you actually had socialism, workers would be prioritized (in any bailout scheme), not capital...
 

If we were honest with ourselves this is true and sometimes the price is payed gladly with altruistic intentions for the greater good.   This is why I have no issue at all with someone who votes for Biden and supports the metoo movement in regards to prioritizing the voice and concerns of women victims of sexual assaults or harassment.   Just acknowledge that you are paying a price.   After all,  virtually all of us here have already chosen an alleged abuser of women in an election.  I did it twice myself.  Once in 1992 and again in 96.


In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.
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Posted: May 7, 2020 - 9:23pm



 R_P wrote:
Birds of a feather... Adorable.
 


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Posted: May 7, 2020 - 7:58pm

Birds of a feather... Adorable.
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Posted: May 7, 2020 - 7:43pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Also:  SQUIRREL!

Nobody has to refute or disprove "Joe's creepiness". They might actually agree to some extent. However, your tremendous hypocrisy still stands as well.
 
Only being blind to your own tremendous hypocrisy, permits you to say that, while offering a straight face.  

Obviously your personal mottto is  'Rules for thee, but not for me.'

And: SQUIRREL !

 
There ya go.  I've been beaten up for using whataboutism here for years, by R and many, many others.

I always forgot to counter it in a timely way to neutralize it.  Now I'm doing things a little differently now and it is fair game for using it.  They use it, call em out if they ask for it.  Doesn't mean that you can't use it, too.  Now it's, so what ?  Kinda like grammar police.

It's getting easier to do now because their over confidence is getting in their own way and their game is slipping as a result.
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Posted: May 7, 2020 - 7:05pm



 kcar wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Also:  SQUIRREL!

Nobody has to refute or disprove "Joe's creepiness". They might actually agree to some extent. However, your tremendous hypocrisy still stands as well.
 

Hypocrisy?!? Oh dear me, no. It's not hypocrisy when someone is paying you to shill. KK's just doing his/her job.
 
Wait...you can get paid for doing this?

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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 3:53pm



 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Also:  SQUIRREL!

Nobody has to refute or disprove "Joe's creepiness". They might actually agree to some extent. However, your tremendous hypocrisy still stands as well.
 

Hypocrisy?!? Oh dear me, no. It's not hypocrisy when someone is paying you to shill. KK's just doing his/her job.
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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 3:24pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Also:  SQUIRREL!

Nobody has to refute or disprove "Joe's creepiness". They might actually agree to some extent. However, your tremendous hypocrisy still stands as well.
 
Only being blind to your own tremendous hypocrisy, permits you to say that, while offering a straight face.  

Obviously your personal mottto is  'Rules for thee, but not for me.'

And: SQUIRREL !
 
You're projecting somewhat... Like Dear Leader usually does.

I assume that allegations of creepiness against Dear Leader don't concern you (nearly as much as they do for Biden).
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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 3:21pm



 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Also:  SQUIRREL!

Nobody has to refute or disprove "Joe's creepiness". They might actually agree to some extent. However, your tremendous hypocrisy still stands as well.
 
Only being blind to your own tremendous hypocrisy, permits you to say that, while offering a straight face.  

Obviously your personal mottto is  'Rules for thee, but not for me.'

And: SQUIRREL !

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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 3:16pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Also:  SQUIRREL!

Nobody has to refute or disprove "Joe's creepiness". They might actually agree to some extent. However, your tremendous hypocrisy still stands as well.
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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 3:06pm



 rgio wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Creepy AF
 
Yeah...it's pretty creepy...but it's amusing to see the supporters of a guy with 25+ assaults, start a character debate.   Creepy is saying...

"She's Got The Best Body"
"Is she a Piece Of Ass?" "Yeah."
"Perhaps I'd Be Dating Her"
"Kiss her?... As Often As I Can"
"She's Always Been Very Voluptuous"

and the all timer...

"If I Weren't, Ya Know, Her Father" 


Do I need to tell you who said those things about his little girl?



Whataboutism
, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.


Also:  SQUIRREL!
 


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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 2:25pm

As the (good news) monkeys are quick to point out, there are different rules for the indumbent...


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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 2:14pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
Creepy AF


I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, “I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual fuck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?


https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html

 

I'll see your creepy and raise you felonious.  
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