You don't get to majickly pretend that a sitting president's behavior before s/he became president doesn't count. So I'll see your Biden and raise you Pussy Grabber.
Sexual assault is just fine as long as you do it as a private citizen. There are high standards (while in office) to maintain!
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
It's another term for the same thing, usually reserved for the adjectival because saying someone's "blindered" sounds weird so we might say Kurt's blinkered posting is causing trouble.
Anecdotally I took a chunk of concrete about the size and shape of a healthy slice of cheesecake packed in a snowball right between the eyes while stationed in Germany a minute ago. 17 stitches and a scar the shape of a cross to prove that at least something happened even if I am a good liar. Lol. Who needs ashes when an army story will work I always say. I've been blindered more than once and molared a bunch of times. I don't recommend it. Never blinkered though. Close. So enough about me. What are we talking about? Oh yeah, ironing...
all of the things done by Trump were as a private citizen. The things Biden has done that we are discussing were all done as either Vice President or Senator ... Does not a higher standard of conduct apply to a federally elected office holder (while in office) than a private citizen ? As touchy / feely as Trump was as a private citizen, he has in no way conducted himself improperly as POTUS. There is a reason Biden is called Uncle Joe ...
You don't get to majickly pretend that a sitting president's behavior before s/he became president doesn't count. So I'll see your Biden and raise you Pussy Grabber.
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
It's another term for the same thing, usually reserved for the adjectival because saying someone's "blindered" sounds weird so we might say Kurt's blinkered posting is causing trouble.
Anecdotally I took a chunk of concrete about the size and shape of a healthy slice of cheesecake packed in a snowball right between the eyes while stationed in Germany a minute ago. 17 stitches and a scar the shape of a cross to prove that at least something happened even if I am a good liar. Lol. Who needs ashes when an army story will work I always say. I've been blindered more than once and molared a bunch of times. I don't recommend it. Never blinkered though. Close. So enough about me. What are we talking about? Oh yeah, ironing...
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
No, I mean blinkers, as in blinkered. Used with skittish horses. But you can use blinders if you prefer those.
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
It's another term for the same thing, usually reserved for the adjectival because saying someone's "blindered" sounds weird so we might say Kurt's blinkered posting is causing trouble.
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Well, any way you look at it, we're talking about Joe Biden as opposed to learning about one of the less well known candidates. The 2020 election is going according to the script. I don't want to hear any whining when Trump wins a second term.
i recently hedged for this
i'm long kleenex, cannabis, tin foil, excedrin and canadian reits
Would you like to discuss Trump's "higher standard of conduct (while in office)" or might blinkers prevent that from happening? Goose and gander. Mote and plank.
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Would you like to discuss Trump's "higher standard of conduct (while in office)" or might blinkers prevent that from happening? Goose and gander. Mote and plank.
I just mean that if we agree Biden's not going to make it to the elimination round, we shouldn't talk about him. We need to get more information about the other candidates, not gossip about crazy Uncle Joe.
Well, he is technically the front runner. By a fairly wide margin.
I just mean that if we agree Biden's not going to make it to the elimination round, we shouldn't talk about him. We need to get more information about the other candidates, not gossip about crazy Uncle Joe.
all of the things done by Trump were as a private citizen. The things Biden has done that we are discussing were all done as either Vice President or Senator ... Does not a higher standard of conduct apply to a federally elected office holder (while in office) than a private citizen ? As touchy / feely as Trump was as a private citizen, he has in no way conducted himself improperly as POTUS. There is a reason Biden is called Uncle Joe ...
I guess a good litmus test is that if you had a daughter and he was groping her like that to the point to where she was visibly uncomfortable, how would you see it? Or would you behave that way yourself? Biden is smart, imo I see someone getting away with as most feels as he can without it being definitely defined as groping. I really don't see how anyone could see any different. Perhaps it would help if you imagined Trump behaving the exact same way (not the actual feeling up of grown women by grabbing their private parts, there is no misconstruing that and there is nothing to discuss) perhaps you would see it for what it really is or not. It does bother me that he could get away with that all of these years, just goes to show that although metoo has some possible side effects, it obviously needed to happen. Bet Biden will be more careful this time around if he does run and stay in the public eye.
I think by calling it groping you've already put a box around it. I've been groped more times than I can remember, and I can say from personal experience that there is a big difference between being groped and having body boundaries disrespected (at least in my experience - again, it's personal - someone who's been abused might have a harder time discriminating). I wouldn't want my kids to be intruded upon like that, but I also don't see it as sexual. I wouldn't want them to even hear trump's voice, let alone be in his physical presence - he is toxic all around, but I don't like your premise - it assumes that the motive, intention and consciousness of any person's behavior and their relationship to the other person is interchangeable. My contention is that each relationship is unique, and I could be perfectly comfortable with one guy putting his hands on my shoulder and 100% uncomfortable just being in the same room with another - it's up to me to let you know how I feel, not for me to decide how it is for someone else - I see that as disempowering. I think you're also making Biden's behavior more conscious than it probably is... you've made all sorts of judgments that I just can't agree with you are ours to make.
Just think about it culturally - there are cultures where people touch each other constantly, and others that don't. Just thinking of the families I know, some are like puppy piles and others show little to no affection. All that plays out in our unconsciousness in terms of what we can tolerate or enjoy.
Your last line actually saddens me. While I would like him to learn to respect boundaries, I don't want him feeling constrained from being himself, if what most people experience from him is warmth and affection. And that's what I'm getting at - are we going to rope men in so far that they can't be comfortable in their own skin? Do they have to suffer the same pain women have in order to put things right? I think there are more conscious ways of moving in that direction.
