I invite others here to come up with serious alternatives to Biden. It won't matter at this point because the race is already largely down to two guys but what the hey. I suspect a lot of names offered may find interest/support in the way that people really like their football team's backup QB: he's a nice idea in theory
The only name that could possibly get a Dem nomination at this point is Gavin Newsom. He says he's not running but keeps doing things to keep him in the news. He has become an incredibly good politician and would run circles around anyone running on either side right now.
The first state filing deadline for the primary ballot is mid-October I think. From there...it gets harder and harder to get votes.
If I were Joe, I'd find a way to dump Kamala and pull him onto the ticket. He could help eliminate the "old man Joe" noise.
All of that said...I wouldn't put a nickel on anything but a rematch of 2020... and that's just tragic.
At this point in time? So close to November '24? No.
I takes YEARS to build a presidential campaign. Long before candidates make themselves known to the public, they are wooing Big Money donors and political powers. Occasionally you'll get someone like Trump or Obama who appears to rise up due to a grassroots groundswell, but even the dark horses needed backing from big players to break through.
I've read a lot of carping about Biden. Apparently everyone has forgotten that the public experiences an emotional fatigue with the sitting President about this time during his first term. It happened to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. It happened less so with GW Bush because of 9/11 and the early belief that the invasion of Iraq was justified. GHW Bush had a 90% approval rating at the end of the Gulf War in March '91 but lost the election to Clinton because he had no domestic agenda to shake voters out of their emotional fatigue with him.
Trump may have escaped that fatigue because he was so polarizing. His supporters felt (and feel, I suspect) that an attack on Trump is an attack on them and they're not willing to disengage from him.
I invite others here to come up with serious alternatives to Biden. It won't matter at this point because the race is already largely down to two guys but what the hey. I suspect a lot of names offered may find interest/support in the way that people really like their football team's backup QB: he's a nice idea in theory
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Sep 26, 2023 - 4:12pm
westslope wrote:
I am a union guy or certainly used to be.
I do not believe that President Biden should be walking the picket line with UAW members.
I was a union guy too. Painters for 20 years.
All they cared about is if we were wearing whites.
I do get my pension now. It almost pays for the groceries.
I didn't care for the union much.
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Sep 26, 2023 - 4:09pm
kcar wrote:
Well said, but we all shouldn't forget that Trump completely botched the handling of Covid and contributed to the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. Trump also pushed crackpot "cures" like Ivermectin; quite a few of his fans took the drug and went to the hospital because of it. Trump's ignorance about Covid, pandemics and preventive measures was so great that he himself got Covid and very nearly died of it.
As for illegal immigrants and illegal drugs, these were problems during Trump's term as well. It's doubtful that Trump or his federal government would have a better handle on them at this time.
Finally: Trump is very likely going to go to jail over the withheld government documents. Sure, we could debate all day about January 6 and whether Trump was merely exercising his First Amendment rights, but the documents case is pretty slam dunk. He had no reason or right to hold onto those documents once he left office. He was asked politely and repeatedly for the return of them. Had he done so, he would not have gotten into trouble.
Instead, he lied about having returned all the documents and tried to hide a number of them. He made no real effort to secure them properly. He has repeatedly tried to tamper with witnesses about the documents. He tried to suborn his lawyer to commit perjury about the matter.
The whole documents story and the legal case surrounding it demonstrate quite clearly that Trump has a remarkably poor ability to assess risk and the consequences of blatantly violating federal law, even when he's received explicit advice on how to avoid those legal consequences.
Let's stop pretending that Joe Biden is senile. You should be far more worried about Trump, Kurt. All the indictments he's facing are because of his own stupidity and poor judgment. The documents case is just the easiest for you to understand.
So, let me see... you prefer a candidate who, among all his troubling indictments, sh*ts on the Constitution and will literally stop at nothing to illegally remain in power? I would unequivocally say it is you who is batsh*t crazy and really hates this country.
Your insecurities are amplified in the form of Trump whose own insecurities made him a dismal failure as president. You're impressed by an incorrigible bully who lives for never-ending confrontation and has absolutely no redeeming qualities as a leader (or a man for that matter).
Well said, but we all shouldn't forget that Trump completely botched the handling of Covid and contributed to the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. Trump also pushed crackpot "cures" like Ivermectin; quite a few of his fans took the drug and went to the hospital because of it. Trump's ignorance about Covid, pandemics and preventive measures was so great that he himself got Covid and very nearly died of it.
As for illegal immigrants and illegal drugs, these were problems during Trump's term as well. It's doubtful that Trump or his federal government would have a better handle on them at this time.
Finally: Trump is very likely going to go to jail over the withheld government documents. Sure, we could debate all day about January 6 and whether Trump was merely exercising his First Amendment rights, but the documents case is pretty slam dunk. He had no reason or right to hold onto those documents once he left office. He was asked politely and repeatedly for the return of them. Had he done so, he would not have gotten into trouble.
Instead, he lied about having returned all the documents and tried to hide a number of them. He made no real effort to secure them properly. He has repeatedly tried to tamper with witnesses about the documents. He tried to suborn his lawyer to commit perjury about the matter.
The whole documents story and the legal case surrounding it demonstrate quite clearly that Trump has a remarkably poor ability to assess risk and the consequences of blatantly violating federal law, even when he's received explicit advice on how to avoid those legal consequences.
Let's stop pretending that Joe Biden is senile. You should be far more worried about Trump, Kurt. All the indictments he's facing are because of his own stupidity and poor judgment. The documents case is just the easiest for you to understand.
A new single day record illegal border crossings was set last week. 11,000.
It is a well known fact that the cartels that control our southern border get $10,000 per person to cross the border.
11,000 X $10,000 = $110,000,000 in a single day.
For perspective, about $3 Billion per month or $36 Billion per year, charging admission to our country.
And all the fentanyl that kills 100,000 Americans per year.
Mayor Adams of NYC is whining about 100,000 illegals and the $12 Billion they are going to cost the city. ?
Biden has let in almost 6 million since his inauguration and Adams is complaining about the burden of only 100,000 ?
He and other democrats have made their cities and states Sanctuaries. Now they are all bitching when people take them up on their offer and show up.
Haven't all you open border people been saying that they will contribute to this country and not cost us anything ?
And Joe, worthless, sleepy, crooked Joe, doing nothing other than putting Kamala in charge of the border and now making Kamala the GUN CZAR to stop gun violence in this country.
And Joe is blaming all of this on Trump and you all believe Joe.
And still y'all have no buyer's remorse and are still wanting to give this guy another 4 years just to keep a republican, any republican, out of the WH.
You people are nucking futz and must truly hate this country.
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So, let me see... you prefer a candidate who, among all his troubling indictments, sh*ts on the Constitution and will literally stop at nothing to illegally remain in power? I would unequivocally say it is you who is batsh*t crazy and really hates this country.
Your insecurities are amplified in the form of Trump whose own insecurities made him a dismal failure as president. You're impressed by an incorrigible bully who lives for never-ending confrontation and has absolutely no redeeming qualities as a leader (or a man for that matter).
A new single day record illegal border crossings was set last week. 11,000.
It is a well known fact that the cartels that control our southern border get $10,000 per person to cross the border.
11,000 X $10,000 = $110,000,000 in a single day.
For perspective, about $3 Billion per month or $36 Billion per year, charging admission to our country.
And all the fentanyl that kills 100,000 Americans per year.
Mayor Adams of NYC is whining about 100,000 illegals and the $12 Billion they are going to cost the city. ????
Biden has let in almost 6 million since his inauguration and Adams is complaining about the burden of only 100,000 ?
He and other democrats have made their cities and states Sanctuaries. Now they are all bitching when people take them up on their offer and show up.
Haven't all you open border people been saying that they will contribute to this country and not cost us anything ?
And Joe, worthless, sleepy, crooked Joe, doing nothing other than putting Kamala in charge of the border and now making Kamala the GUN CZAR to stop gun violence in this country.
And Joe is blaming all of this on Trump and you all believe Joe.
And still y'all have no buyer's remorse and are still wanting to give this guy another 4 years just to keep a republican, any republican, out of the WH.
You people are nucking futz and must truly hate this country. .
Illegal migrants aren’t just overwhelming the border — President Biden is flying them secretly to airports around the country. ...
For this measure, Cubans, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Haitians and Colombians request “advance travel authorizations” through the same CBP One mobile app and take commercial flights (“at their own expense”) directly into US airports, where US Customs officers parole them into the nation, sight unseen, and in numbers publicly unknown.
Biden officials have rarely, if ever, spoken of this flight program in the year since implementing it, perhaps mindful of the political outcry over the late-night “ghost flights” that DHS stealthily arranges to ferry migrant children into various airports.
But records show that between late October 2022 and mid-September 2023, the administration approved a total of 221,456 Venezuelans, Haitians, Cubans and Nicaraguans for “travel mode: air.”
The Biden administration did not release the numbers of Colombians or Ukrainians approved to use the direct-flight parole program, meaning the number is even higher.
And recently, the administration added Hondurans, El Salvadorans and Guatemalans to the direct-flight program.
CBP has redacted and withheld the locations of the 43 interior ports of entry that have been utilized by this direct-flight program, claiming its release would harm law-enforcement techniques or procedures.
The administration has proven reluctant to provide any meaningful data about its vaunted CBP One-based border strategy, which allows mass parole of inadmissible aliens who would otherwise cross illegally.
this is the unfortunate part of the situation. I burns me to no end that they all don't get in a room together (yes I mean Dems and Repubs) and hash out some sort of solution. Instead it's finger pointing all over the place and like you said above they don't have the guts to work with each other without fear of getting run out of office.
Elective orificials have achieved the Peter Principle without principles. Say that fast 10 times.
Not so that any idealogger heads would object unfortunately...
it seems foolish politicians who are primarily concerned with getting re-elected are looking at polling for guidance
this is the unfortunate part of the situation. I burns me to no end that they all don't get in a room together (yes I mean Dems and Repubs) and hash out some sort of solution. Instead it's finger pointing all over the place and like you said above they don't have the guts to work with each other without fear of getting run out of office.
a couple of random coffee thoughts:
first i think biden's demise mentally and physically (age) is probably overstated a bit
that said his age is clearly an issue and we need better choices from the two major parties
second we need simple framework to address people moving to america (people are voting with their feet)
there are sensible recommendations out there, niskanen has some pretty good ideas that could be implemented right now
it seems foolish politicians who are primarily concerned with getting re-elected are looking at polling for guidance
meanwhile humans that are stuck with shitty governments and silly systems see leaving as the desired solution
just streamline the process
maybe check them for criminal records, diseases, vaccinate if needed, give them social security number and offer english language programs
it shouldn't be difficult to improve the current system
