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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 11:44am


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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 11:40am

 VV wrote:

Actually no, I don't support the Russian War and would be highly in favor of a diplomatic solution involving Russia laying down it's arms, giving back all of Ukraine's territory (including Crimea) and agreement on what reparations and other assistance Russia will provide to help Ukraine rebuild. Let's get that ball rolling.



hear, hear
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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 11:13am

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I see what you did there, tricky. Projection?  If you think. I guess I could have used nicer terms, but I was  attempting to use humor. 

I know most here support the Ukraine war, while I've supported more diplomacy. Obviously not because I support Putin, but because its  leading to thousand of direct casualties and millions of indirect casualties, as a result of disruptions to the supply of many commodities.  And I'm not optimistic  Ukraine can "win" at least anytime soon...but hopefully I'm wrong.

As noted, the situation has a long history, and didn't just pop-up last winter. 




Actually no, I don't support the Russian War and would be highly in favor of a diplomatic solution involving Russia laying down it's arms, giving back all of Ukraine's territory (including Crimea) and agreement on what reparations and other assistance Russia will provide to help Ukraine rebuild. Let's get that ball rolling.

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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 9:32am

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I just think it's distracting to assume any of the players are stupid. I think it's a smarter play to assume they're sharp as a tack and work from there. 


Perhaps you are right...but too many of our complex problems with long histories are being addressed with answers that are too quick and simple....which is "stupid".
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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 9:19am

 black321 wrote:


I see what you did there, tricky. Projection?  If you think. I guess I could have used nicer terms, but I was  attempting to use humor. 

I know most here support the Ukraine war, while I've supported more diplomacy. Obviously not because I support Putin, but because its  leading to thousand of direct casualties and millions of indirect casualties, as a result of disruptions to the supply of many commodities.  And I'm not optimistic  Ukraine can "win" at least anytime soon...but hopefully I'm wrong.

As noted, the situation has a long history, and didn't just pop-up last winter. 





I just think it's distracting to assume any of the players are stupid. I think it's a smarter play to assume they're sharp as a tack and work from there. 
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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 8:33am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:





I see what you did there, tricky. Projection?  If you think. I guess I could have used nicer terms, but I was  attempting to use humor. 

I know most here support the Ukraine war, while I've supported more diplomacy. Obviously not because I support Putin, but because its  leading to thousand of direct casualties and millions of indirect casualties, as a result of disruptions to the supply of many commodities.  And I'm not optimistic  Ukraine can "win" at least anytime soon...but hopefully I'm wrong.

As noted, the situation has a long history, and didn't just pop-up last winter. 



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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 8:25am

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Borked.




It's projecting just fine for me.
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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 7:36am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:




Borked.

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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 7:20am

 black321 wrote:

All excellent questions, but no...the question is, 

Is it surprising that morons like biden and zelensky don't know how to manage an idiot like putin?




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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 7:14am

All excellent questions, but no...the question is, 

Is it surprising that morons like biden and zelensky don't know how to manage an idiot like putin?



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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 6:58am

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which, begs the question...


surf or turf?
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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 6:54am

 black321 wrote:


which, begs the question...



Paper or plastic?
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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 6:33am

 black321 wrote:


which, begs the question...



Boxers or briefs?

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Posted: Nov 4, 2022 - 12:10am

 black321 wrote:


which, begs the question...


Beatles or Stones?
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Posted: Nov 3, 2022 - 10:24pm

 black321 wrote:


which, begs the question...

Don't be shy.  Spell it out for us.

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Posted: Nov 3, 2022 - 9:22pm

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This December 2021 AP piece contradicts your assertion that Biden was calling for Ukraine to join Nato. It also reports that the State Department was quietly suggesting to Ukraine's government that it cede some sovereignty to the Donbas region in order to counter Russia's support of independence for the region.

https://apnews.com/article/joe...



which, begs the question...
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Posted: Nov 3, 2022 - 7:07pm

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I dunno.  I find Biden's rhetoric to be often provocative and threatening.   President Biden can be proud of catalyzing the Russian invasion by adamantly insisting that Ukraine would become a NATO country.

Many experts who I respect believe that the probability of nuclear war is now greater now than ever before in the post-war period.   I am not sure I agree.  The Russian invasion and annexation of territory will either languish as is or be dealt with without either side resorting to nuclear weapons.   IMO.    The risk is still there.

So yeah.  Be fearful.   



This December 2021 AP piece contradicts your assertion that Biden was calling for Ukraine to join Nato. It also reports that the State Department was quietly suggesting to Ukraine's government that it cede some sovereignty to the Donbas region in order to counter Russia's support of independence for the region.

https://apnews.com/article/joe...

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Posted: Nov 3, 2022 - 5:56pm

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But fearmongering is a virtue.



I dunno.  I find Biden's rhetoric to be often provocative and threatening.   President Biden can be proud of catalyzing the Russian invasion by adamantly insisting that Ukraine would become a NATO country.

Many experts who I respect believe that the probability of nuclear war is now greater now than ever before in the post-war period.   I am not sure I agree.  The Russian invasion and annexation of territory will either languish as is or be dealt with without either side resorting to nuclear weapons.   IMO.    The risk is still there.

So yeah.  Be fearful.   


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Posted: Oct 30, 2022 - 1:53pm

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In these very trying times it's comforting to know that it is Biden's finger on the button.

But fearmongering is a virtue.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2022 - 11:03am

In these very trying times it's comforting to know that it is Biden's finger on the button.
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