ScottFromWyoming wrote: 


It's true stories like this that make it impossible for me to write fiction... seriously, everything I dream up is just pure drab compared to the things that the Rimbaughs of this world come up with.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 


Nope. The yammering will be "Ditto, Rush!"

 brandog wrote: 
I can't click that link. I'm afraid my brain will fritz out and only be able to yammer "burritos!" or "ehoo!" for the rest of my life.

 brandog wrote: 
What a load of crap!  The SWAT teams are actually down there looking for Conan O'Brien!  Conan was pissed that Jay Leno took back the Tonight Show and retaliated in a way that would truly hurt Leno.  Leno is well known for his love of automobiles, so Conan figured if he was able to at least temporarily reduce the supply of crude oil, Leno might not get to drive his gas-guzzling vehicles or, at the very least, have to pay more for the gas.  This was just an act of retaliation from an immature comedian.

Or it was Marilyn Manson's fault.

 brandog wrote: 

Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! This guy has absolutely no pride, soul or conscience whatsoever!

 brandog wrote: 
 
Good grief, you couldn't make it up.
 
I dunno, I reckon this would be just as at home in the WTF and Oh The Stupidity threads as well.

Rush Limbaugh: Oil Spill Was Deliberate Act By Environmentalists

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I just don't get it. Couldn't imagine killing another human, or an animal like that.

 Alpine wrote: 

I am getting a stinger. Only I will have to bide my time shooting birds and small airplanes that fly low enough until I can afford some drones for skeet shooting.

 Alpine wrote: 

Cos yeah, more guns is the solution.

 kurtster wrote: 
Ashtabula county is only a couple counties over from me.  The county I live in (Lorain county) has also experienced severe cutbacks in the sheriff's department though not as bad as Ashtabula.  We could very well be in the same situation in a year or so.

I know of no data to back this up, but I'll bet you $ 1.00 that there are more un-reported crimes detered by people carrying guns than we will ever know.

My wife is getting a 9mm for Christmas.

 hippiechick wrote:

  
 
This is what happens when we run out of money :

Ashtabula County: One sheriff's cruiser for the entire county

 Updated: 2/4/2010 10:39:40 AM  Posted: 2/3/2010 6:13:06 PM

ASHTABULA COUNTY - At 720 square miles, Ashtabula is Ohio's biggest county. And starting today (Wednesday), the sheriff's department has all of one cruiser - with two deputies - responding to emergencies.

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Amid cuts, Ohio judge tells citizens to carry guns

WKYC video with judge speaking

By THOMAS J. SHEERAN, Associated Press Writer Thomas J. Sheeran, Associated Press Writer - Fri Apr 9, 5:34 pm ET

CLEVELAND - One judge's solution for citizens feeling less secure because of budget cuts in an Ohio county: Carry a gun.

Judge Alfred Mackey of Ashtabula County Common Pleas Court advised residents Friday to be vigilant and arm themselves because the number of deputies has been cut about in half because of a tight budget. He also urged neighbors to organize anti-crime block watch groups.

"They have to be law-abiding, and if they are not familiar with firearms they need to take a safety course so they are not a threat to their family and friends and themselves," Mackey said Friday.

Mackey, whose comments were first broadcast Thursday by WKYC-TV in Cleveland, was expressing concerns with budget cuts that have trimmed the sheriff's department from 112 to 49 deputies in the county, which is Ohio's largest by land area.

Asked by WKYC how people should respond to the cuts and limited patrols, he said, "Arm themselves. Be very careful and just be vigilant because we're going to have to look after each other."

Andrew Pollis, who teaches law at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, saw the original TV clip of Mackey and said it was clear the judge wasn't advocating vigilantism.

Still, Pollis said, snippets of the comments could be misunderstood "as a license, if you will, to engage in conduct which we as a society collectively would not want."

In Akron, Summit County Common Pleas Judge Patricia Cosgrove, president-elect of the Ohio Common Pleas Judges Association, said she was surprised by Mackey's suggestion.

"That's scary to me," she said. "I don't know what the situation in Ashtabula County is. I personally would never - that's a personal choice in terms of carrying a weapon."

With deputies assigned to transport prisoners and serve warrants, only one radio car is assigned to patrol the county of 720 square miles, excluding municipalities with police departments. The sheriff's patrol area covers most of the county, the judge said Friday.

Mackey said the response to his comments has been positive in the mostly rural county between Cleveland and Erie, Pa.

"People in this county are hunters," said Mackey, who grew up on a farm with rifles and still owns firearms. "People have familiarity with firearms."

Messages seeking comment on the judge's remarks were left for Sheriff William Johnson and county commissioners.

Johnson has threatened to sue the commissioners to have some of his department's funding restored.

The jail in the county of about 100,000 people has held as many as 140 prisoners, but the number has dipped to about 30 because of reductions in the guard staff. About 700 people are on a waiting list to serve time in the jail.

Ohio has had a concealed handgun law for five years, and from October to December the Ashtabula County sheriff issued 54 licenses. Twenty-eight licenses were renewed.

 

http://www.wkyc.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=64725628001

Edit :  I believe someone once remarked, that it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

 hippiechick wrote: 

That is just despicable, I am not fan of Graham by any stretch, but quite frankly, it is no one's business what his sexuality is, even if his policies are hypocritical. Representatives should be judged by their policy stances and voting records only and there is plenty enough there to dislike Graham based on that alone. However, one thing you can say is this idiot is being non-partisan in his sophmoric and anitquated beliefs!

Lindsey Graham Gay? Conservative Group ALIPAC Demands Senator 'Admit Homosexuality'

 hippiechick wrote: 
It wouldn't be fear driving me but just a sense of being prepared.

"I've found that it is better to have a gun and not need it then to need a gun and not have it" - Clarence Worley "True Romance"

 cc_rider wrote: 
Chicago has an extremely serious gang problem. The reasons are extremely complicated. And of course, the violence has spread to different neighborhoods, and some burbs, but I am sorry to say that the biggest problems come from the black and Hispanic hoods.

 hippiechick wrote: 
That was a law-enforcement policy known as the 'self-cleaning oven'. Unfortunately it did not work: the areas that were left to the criminal element eventually became so burned-out that the scumbags moved away from the war zones, spreading out into neighboring areas. Crime statistics reveal a series of rings, as crime spread outward from the burned-out core.

 mzpro5 wrote: 
NO, but Chi you know that you don't go into some hoods without good reason, because you could get caught in fire of a drive by shooting or gang action. But I have done volunteer work in Englewood, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the city, and I never felt that my life was in danger. The danger to you is much much less than you actually imagine. It's your fear factor that determines whether or not you need a gun, not the actual reality of the situation.

 hippiechick wrote: 
So let's cede all our rights to travel within our neighborhoods to gun-toting thugs?  I wouldn't directly confront these guys but I'll be darned if I am going to plan my daily travel route to avoid a main area of town or cower in my house if it were to come to that.

This is a developing situation in our small city of 50,000 and people are demanding action from our city officials and police but I still think it wouldn't hurt to have a nice shotgun in the house.  Never should have got rid of the one I had.