oldviolin wrote: 
You're a handsome bruise! 

 winter wrote: 

Not yet. I might have to do full-on "Highlander" combat with my brother this Sunday when we have a family meeting on the issue. There can be only ONE.

 cc_rider wrote: 
It's a very big deal these days.

 Manbird wrote: 
Those corn-based plastic cups and utensils have had the same problems. A big facility like a stadium buys those things by the truckload, right? Well, if they get too hot, or too humid or whatever, they start breaking down, and you've got a truckload of biodegraded garbage.

 Manbird wrote: 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 


Good points. I try not to buy groceries more than once a week, and I try to stick to a list.

 Proclivities wrote: 
want.

 Manbird wrote:  

 and they leave a handsome bruise the next day.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
We bought some biodegradable trash bags. The dam things started to degrade before we could get it out to the trash. It just reacted with the garbage scraps and almost fell apart as I took it out to the bin. FAIL. 

 winter wrote: 
Surprisingly few. I think people make a point of not reacting. Which is fine by me. 

 cc_rider wrote: 
They do. There is a Subaru plant somewhere that powers a substantial portion of their operations will a landfill gas fired turbine. I think GM was looking at this too, not sure where it fit with the whole restructuring though.

 winter wrote: 
Well there's a happy medium somewhere where the time and energy used to go to the store every single day is cut dramatically if you can just plan ahead and make one trip a week. Or if you go once a month (or quarter) and get a month's worth (or 3 months worth) of canned goods and other staples, and then once a week for perishables. Justine's got a semi- rule about not going to the store for just one item. Too inefficient and if you grab something else on a lark, then the cost of the trip winds up being double what the thing would have cost if you'd waited and put it in the cart with the rest of the week's stuff.
 
None of this means plastic bags are needed though. Costco has the A-No.1 best solution to getting your stuff to your car, btw. 

 Manbird wrote: 
I've seen ones like this around:

 Alexandra wrote: 


Put down the weapon. I mean your mother no harm.

 winter wrote: 

My mom probably needed two carts and an older sibling to help. She had to feed an army every. single. f-ing. day.

That is why no one is allowed to put her in a nursing home!

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 

Well....we did bury it in soil....and it had broken down some....it was really cheap & thin (probably recycled). Not like the Wal-marks thickness.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:  That's a point many people miss. UV rays eventually destroy practically everything, but the normal landfield procedure covers everything up.

One thing I wonder though: landfills have vents, to allow gases like methane to escape. But what is 'natural gas' but methane? Why not capture it? Yeah, the concentration/pressure is very low compared to underground sources, but since it is a good fuel AND a greenhouse gas, why not capture it?

 Alexandra wrote: 
photodegradable. In a landfill they are forever. In sunlight they break down eventually. Sort of.

 Manbird wrote: 


You must get some interesting looks carrying that around. 

 winter wrote: 
 My buddy bought me one of these, I use it all the time ...