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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 11:02pm

Well, I got a lot of positive responses (38), but only 20 actual addresses (including mine).  If we grow, we grow.  But for now, 20 actual addresses is still manageable for me.

Let me break down my crazy logic for you and see if you are still interested.  I have decided that...

1) The file-sharing thing would be awesome, but I worry about the legality of it.  A mixtape is legal no matter which way you slice it.
2) I want to have an actual mixtape in my hot little hands every month because this club is for the love of the mixtape (it's a culture, people!) and not for the love of the playlist.
3) I want as many people to participate as possible.  Therefore, if half the people who signed up for this are freaking out about sending out 20 CDs during their host month, I would rather find a different option.
4) I like the gift-swap model, but I would really like to share my mix with more than one person.  This is a club.  I want to discuss and share and discover new music with my friends in the club.
5) The idea to break the mail-out into groups seems to migrate best when considering the possibility of growth in the future.  However, I'm not so certain I would like to be sent 4 CDs a month.  Seriously...I want to be able to savor what I got from someone.  This model is a bit more hard core than I originally wanted.  I don't want to be making a mix every month.  Even if I wanted to, life happens.  Trust me when I say this - it can take me a week or more to make the perfect mix and get it ready for delivery.  I like to take my time.
6)  I feel I can comfortably manage groups broken down into 5 people.  Presently, that means there will be 4 groups.  1 host per group.  I'll ask the first 3 people who contacted me and said they were interested to be co-hosts with me this month.  We will pick our own themes, but I'll still leave a list of themes on this thread for anyone who might be stuck and in need of a little inspiration.

In a nutshell, if you join this club, you will be creating a mix of songs, burning it onto 4 CDs (5 if you make one for yourself), and sending it out to 4 addresses once every 5 months.  Please tell me that this is feasible.  You will be getting 1 CD every month filled with great tunes.  That's a pretty good return on investment.

Anyway, how will this go down, you ask?  You will be placed in a mailing group of 5 people (this will be decided by the order in which you all mailed/messaged me).  One person from your group will send out 5 CDs (or rather, 5 copies of the same mix with cover art and liner notes optional). The next month a new host from that same group will send out 5 CDs.  Hosts will rotate within those groups until everyone has had a chance to send out his or her mix to the group.  Once everyone within that group has sent out a mix, we will switch up the groups for a little variety. 

Jesus Christ Superstar!  I never thought this would be so challenging!  Still, I think I've come up with something pretty fair.  Let me know what you think.

Best,

Stephanie




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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:39pm

 not-a-fish wrote:


Ok, Ok....let me think about it and I'll post something definite tomorrow.

 
Cool,
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:36pm

 not-a-fish wrote:


My original idea was that you would send out 20 ish CDs and then get 1 CD every month from someone new.  Depending on the size of the group, you would not have to do this again for a very long time. :)  I thought about making it every 2 weeks too, but you would still only have to do that once in a blue moon because of the size of the group.

 
That's what I thought, too.  That is still quite doable for me.  More than 20 could get hinky.  It would only be twice a year or so in this scenario.

DownHomeGirl

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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:35pm

 not-a-fish wrote:


My original idea was that you would send out 20 ish CDs and then get 1 CD every month from someone new.  Depending on the size of the group, you would not have to do this again for a very long time. :)  I thought about making it every 2 weeks too, but you would still only have to do that once in a blue moon because of the size of the group.

 
Example... If you have 50 people this month, divide it into 10 groups of 5 each.  Have each person pick their own theme (or pick from a list of themes, or whatever you want to do here), then send their mix to the other 4 in their group.  Each person would make one mix, send it out to 4 people, and get 4 in return.  Total cost would be about $0.25-$0.75 per CD (if you buy in bulk like we do), plus postage and envelopes (maybe another $5-$10 max??).

But seriously, I agree with NWG— just pick a method and go with it.  I think whatever you decide will be fun!

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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:32pm

 newwavegurly wrote:

Fishy, just decide how you want to do it, and those that like the idea will be involved. Those that don't can shove off.

 

Ok, Ok....let me think about it and I'll post something definite tomorrow.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:31pm

 not-a-fish wrote:


Dude, that's exactly what I said...apparently you and I had a collective idea about 45 minutes ago.

 

Mayhaps something like this:

Month 1
PersonA gets PersonB
PersonB gets PersonC
PersonC gets PersonD
PersonD gets PersonE
PersonE gets PersonA

Month 2
PersonA gets PersonC
PersonB gets PersonD
PersonC gets PersonE
PersonD gets PersonA
PersonE gets PersonB

etc, etc.  Of course, to keep the mystery intact, you don't have to disclose who PersonA, PersonB, PersonC, etc. is, so we won't necessarily know from whom to expect the discs.
not-a-fish

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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:28pm

 kurtster wrote:

I see the sense in the small groups as far as a monthly manageable expense. 
 

My original idea was that you would send out 20 ish CDs and then get 1 CD every month from someone new.  Depending on the size of the group, you would not have to do this again for a very long time. :)  I thought about making it every 2 weeks too, but you would still only have to do that once in a blue moon because of the size of the group.


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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:28pm

 not-a-fish wrote:
lol  Ok...holy crap I did not forsee this to be that complicated!  I was all...tra la la...it'll work itself out! lol

The whole monthly theme idea of which I spoke earlier is for people who are interested in taking on that theme.  If they are not, they don't have to participate that month.  It would make it a "you get out of it what you put in it" sort of model.  Only the ones who signed up to participate that month would be matched up to someone.

I like the idea of a higher return, though... {#Think}
 
Fishy, just decide how you want to do it, and those that like the idea will be involved. Those that don't can shove off.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:24pm

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I don't mind sending multiples.  I got a ton of blanks around the house and I can splurge maybe $20 on postage.  But yea, it could get expensive if group is big.  I like the small group idea.  Especially if you get a new small group each month.  Like 5-8 people per group?  That would be manageable, and you'd get 5-8 mixes in return, so...
 
I see the sense in the small groups as far as a monthly manageable expense. 

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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:24pm

 dionysius wrote:


Why not do it like holiday Gift Swap? One donor to one recipient. Might make inividual programming possible, too.  
 
I like this concept. Because that's about how many blank CDs I can afford. Is one. One blank CD. Per Month. 


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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:23pm

 not-a-fish wrote:


lol  Ok...holy crap I did not forsee this to be that complicated!  I was all...tra la la...it'll work itself out! lol

The whole monthly theme thing is for people who are interested in taking on that theme.  If they are not, they don't have to participate that month.  It would make it a "you get out of it what you put in it" sort of model.  Only the ones who signed up to participate that month would be matched up to someone.

I like the idea of a higher return, though... {#Think}

 
Seriously, whatever you decide on, I'll be happy with.  Good idea :-)

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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:23pm

 dionysius wrote:


Why not do it like holiday Gift Swap? One donor to one recipient. Might make inividual programming possible, too.  

 

Dude, that's exactly what I said...apparently you and I had a collective idea about 45 minutes ago.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:22pm

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Having a place to upload that stuff would be great.  I still like the small group idea over individual matches, just because the return would be greater.  You make one mix, you get a few in return.  But I'd be OK with whatever.  Also, in case one person is flaky, there are still a few others that you can count on   (Says the person who barely could get a postcard out in time )

 

lol  Ok...holy crap I did not forsee this to be that complicated!  I was all...tra la la...it'll work itself out! lol

The whole monthly theme idea of which I spoke earlier is for people who are interested in taking on that theme.  If they are not, they don't have to participate that month.  It would make it a "you get out of it what you put in it" sort of model.  Only the ones who signed up to participate that month would be matched up to someone.

I like the idea of a higher return, though... {#Think}


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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:19pm

 not-a-fish wrote:


I liked this idea too...until I had 38 people interested right off the bat (on here and Facebook).  That would probably be enough mixtapes to make me hate this whole thing.  The idea of co-hosting would simply mean two or three people split the group evenly and send out each host's CD (about two or three depending on the size of the group) in one package.

 

Why not do it like holiday Gift Swap? One donor to one recipient. Might make inividual programming possible, too.  
DownHomeGirl

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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:17pm

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Nope - you hit it on the nose.  I wanted to do this for the love of mixtapes.  The actual physical, tangible sexy little things of my past, present, and future.

I think I like the one-on-one exchange the best as far as time, expense, and feasability goes.  In addition to the one-on-one, I do like the idea of uploading my cover art, liner notes, and mix to Scott's mac server for anyone who might be interested in getting their fix that way.  This of course would also be an optional afterthought.  Any thoughts? 

 
Having a place to upload that stuff would be great.  I still like the small group idea over individual matches, just because the return would be greater.  You make one mix, you get a few in return.  But I'd be OK with whatever.  Also, in case one person is flaky, there are still a few others that you can count on   (Says the person who barely could get a postcard out in time )


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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:17pm

 kurtster wrote:


I like this best, at least at first.  Not sure what multiple host means.  Is that where you send a disc to several people who then recopy and forward new copies ?

 

I liked this idea too...until I had 38 people interested right off the bat (on here and Facebook).  That would probably be enough mixtapes to make me hate this whole thing.  The idea of co-hosting would simply mean two or three people split the group evenly and send out each host's CD (about two or three depending on the size of the group) in one package.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:17pm

 kurtster wrote:
I like this best, at least at first.  Not sure what multiple host means.  Is that where you send a disc to several people who then recopy and forward new copies ?
 
I think OCDHG described it pretty well down below, right after my post with those 3 different ideas of how it could function.
 
Except that I was thinking that there would only be 3 or 4 people making CDs each month instead of everyone doing it. NAF would have to take volunteers for each month, and then assign each of those people a small group that they'd be sending a CD to. The process would start anew each month, so that no one ever knew who they were going to be getting a CD from.
 
 
 not-a-fish wrote:
Nope - you hit it on the nose.  I wanted to do this for the love of mixtapes.  The actual physical, tangible sexy little things of my past, present, and future.

I think I like the one-on-one exchange the best as far as time, expense, and feasability goes.  In addition to the one-on-one, I do like the idea of uploading my cover art, liner notes, and mix to Scott's mac server for anyone who might be interested in getting their fix that way.  This of course would also be an optional afterthought.  Any thoughts? 
   
Almost makes me want to see if I hung onto any of my old mixtapes so that I could recreate them as a CD instead. All that old music that I had recorded off the radio back when I was a teenager...
 
The one-on-one exchange could be a lot of work for you each month, and it also means that everyone is making a CD each month. Not that I'm adverse to that, but not everyone might want to have to do it every month. 
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:11pm

 newwavegurly wrote:

It's very much going to depend on how you want to do this...
  • Is it a one-to-one exchange?
  • Is it a multiple "host" thing where 3 or 4 people send CDs out to a couple of people each month?
  • Is it the responsibility of one person to send CDs to everyone in the group?
 Different approaches work for each, but I do say it should be a physical CD exchange, no matter which way it goes. While I understand the appeal of digital music being exchanged, I think that sort of defeats the original intent you had for the group. Or did I misunderstand? 

EDIT: Then again, this is your project... so whatever you decide should be the way it goes.

 

I like this best, at least at first.  Not sure what multiple host means.  Is that where you send a disc to several people who then recopy and forward new copies ?
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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:10pm

 newwavegurly wrote:

It's very much going to depend on how you want to do this...
  • Is it a one-to-one exchange?
  • Is it a multiple "host" thing where 3 or 4 people send CDs out to a couple of people each month?
  • Is it the responsibility of one person to send CDs to everyone in the group?
 Different approaches work for each, but I do say it should be a physical CD exchange, no matter which way it goes. While I understand the appeal of digital music being exchanged, I think that sort of defeats the original intent you had for the group. Or did I misunderstand? 

 

Nope - you hit it on the nose.  I wanted to do this for the love of mixtapes.  The actual physical, tangible sexy little things of my past, present, and future.

I think I like the one-on-one exchange the best as far as time, expense, and feasability goes.  In addition to the one-on-one, I do like the idea of uploading my cover art, liner notes, and mix to Scott's mac server for anyone who might be interested in getting their fix that way.  This of course would also be an optional afterthought.  Any thoughts? 


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Posted: Sep 13, 2009 - 8:09pm

 newwavegurly wrote:

It's very much going to depend on how you want to do this...
  • Is it a one-to-one exchange?
  • Is it a multiple "host" thing where 3 or 4 people send CDs out to a couple of people each month?
  • Is it the responsibility of one person to send CDs to everyone in the group?
 Different approaches work for each, but I do say it should be a physical CD exchange, no matter which way it goes. While I understand the appeal of digital music being exchanged, I think that sort of defeats the original intent you had for the group. Or did I misunderstand? 

EDIT: Then again, this is your project... so whatever you decide should be the way it goes.

 
I don't mind sending multiples.  I got a ton of blanks around the house and I can splurge maybe $20 on postage.  But yea, it could get expensive if group is big.  I like the small group idea.  Especially if you get a new small group each month.  Like 5-8 people per group?  That would be manageable, and you'd get 5-8 mixes in return, so...

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