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Posted: Jul 18, 2022 - 8:42am

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You are not arguing against my points, as much as the fringe left that wants to stop oil now.
So you appear argue, let's keep the status quo and ignore the problems it causes.

My argument is, lets develop a solid plan to transition to cheaper, clean, more efficient energy, 
that will have less of an impact on the environment, 
and perhaps more importantly help humanity (by reducing the health impacts and providing them with appropriate energy resources and boosting their quality of life). 


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Posted: Jul 18, 2022 - 7:41am

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Seems to me that with the evenly divided Senate and Manchin being Manchin that any progress on this issue is if the Republican party stops treating this like a third rail. What it will take for that to happen is anyone's guess. But I'd drop some of my hard earned $ in the donation hat for an organization that is working to that end. 



I just chuckled to myself thinking of someone donating bitcoin to an environmental cause, after having burned a city block’s worth of electricity to mine a piece of a coin.
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Posted: Jul 18, 2022 - 6:23am

Seems to me that with the evenly divided Senate and Manchin being Manchin that any progress on this issue is if the Republican party stops treating this like a third rail. What it will take for that to happen is anyone's guess. But I'd drop some of my hard earned $ in the donation hat for an organization that is working to that end. 
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Posted: Jul 17, 2022 - 11:51am

United Kingdom issues first Red Extreme heat warning
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Posted: Jul 16, 2022 - 10:40pm

Denial was the old delay.

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Posted: Jul 16, 2022 - 10:22pm

 R_P wrote:
Delay is the new denial.
 
Ain't denying nothing.
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 kurtster wrote:
It doesn't matter if Climate Change is real or if it is a hoax.  We can only get so far so fast, safely. 
 
So what's your plan and how fast can you get us there ?  I'm sure you have a copy and paste answer sitting handy.
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Posted: Jul 16, 2022 - 10:12pm

Delay is the new denial.
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Posted: Jul 16, 2022 - 10:01pm

 black321 wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
here's something for all you greenies to chew on ... stop using oil is going to kill us all faster and surer than not stopping using oil. .
{#Cowboy}

Even if one assumes climate change is a hoax,
why wouldn't we want cheap, efficient, clean energy
that would benefit not only the country, 
but also the global environment, 
providing resources to the billions in poverty,
and promoting global stability? (p.s., gotta love your half-cocked, half-baked conversation starters)
 
Yeah, it this one was delivered at the end of an episode of the blue screen of death on my 13 year old Windows 7 Dell.  My primary innernet puter.  Reboot, scan, wait, reboot, scan, wait reboot, blue screen.  Pulling hard drives, formatting spares and rescuing critical stuff. I'm on the wife's right now.  Already replaced it, still in the box after 30 hours.  Now I have to configure a brand new one with Windows 11 of which I an totally clueless and still not liking and barely functioning in Windows 10 on the wife's and the ones at work.  So yeah ...

Well anyway ... We are not ready to transition, not even close to ready, yet the push is in high gear without regard to any consequences.  Very recently we went from ...

Gas too high ?  Buy an electric car, that will fix everything. To don't plug your car in during peak demand to keep the grid from crashing.

Huh ?  

The crazies who glued themselves to an oil painting and scrawled "NO MORE OIL" on it.  I bet they would be naked if  they took off everything that they had on that was made from a petroleum product.

It doesn't matter if Climate Change is real or if it is a hoax.  We can only get so far so fast, safely.  This is the same kind of thinking that if I set the thermostat lower it will get to the desired less cooler temp sooner.

No, it is going to take the same time to get to that temp regardless how low you set the thermostat.

NO MORE OIL sounds pretty flipping urgent, immediate and impatient.  According to AOC and her friends, we have 8 years left.  Well unless we keep oil in the equation, we ain't gonna make it that far anyway. 

We get 82% of our energy needs from hydrocarbons.  The best renewables can get to is 25% by 2030.  And they are by design, not reliable, being entirely dependent on weather conditions.

While you may understand that oil is still needed regardless, these people do not and by reading stuff here, most here seem to think the same.

That was my point.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2022 - 7:10am

 black321 wrote:



Even if one assumes climate change is a hoax,
why wouldn't we want cheap, efficient, clean energy
that would benefit not only the country, 
but also the global environment, 
providing resources to the billions in poverty,
and promoting global stability?

(p.s., gotta love your half-cocked, half-baked conversation starters)


Like Mr Forbert say, Good Planets are Hard to Find
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Posted: Jul 15, 2022 - 6:34am

 kurtster wrote:
here's something for all you greenies to chew on ...

stop using oil is going to kill us all faster and surer than not stopping using oil.

.
{#Cowboy}



Even if one assumes climate change is a hoax,
why wouldn't we want cheap, efficient, clean energy
that would benefit not only the country, 
but also the global environment, 
providing resources to the billions in poverty,
and promoting global stability?

(p.s., gotta love your half-cocked, half-baked conversation starters)
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Posted: Jul 15, 2022 - 12:20am

 islander wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
here's something for all you greenies to chew on ... stop using oil is going to kill us all faster and surer than not stopping using oil. .
{#Cowboy}

 



 
{#Lol}

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Posted: Jul 14, 2022 - 9:40pm

 kurtster wrote:
here's something for all you greenies to chew on ...

stop using oil is going to kill us all faster and surer than not stopping using oil.

.
{#Cowboy}



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Posted: Jul 14, 2022 - 7:44pm

here's something for all you greenies to chew on ...

stop using oil is going to kill us all faster and surer than not stopping using oil.

.
{#Cowboy}
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Posted: Jul 1, 2022 - 1:51pm

Greenhouse Emissions Rise to Record, Erasing Drop During Pandemic
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Posted: Jun 19, 2022 - 11:45am

Climate Deniers and the Language of Climate Obstruction
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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 12:59pm

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Posted: May 15, 2022 - 1:31pm

99F in the middle of May. We're going to die this summer.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2022 - 7:16am

I've resided in Derplahoma for nearly fifty years and this has been the coolest, driest and windiest spring we've had.
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Posted: Mar 10, 2022 - 12:39pm

Amazon Is Less Able to Recover From Droughts and Logging, Study Finds
The region is nearing a threshold beyond which its forests may be replaced by grasslands, with huge repercussions for biodiversity and climate change.
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Posted: Mar 9, 2022 - 1:43pm

A Dire Warning About the End of Human Civilization

 
Stabilizing at 1.5 degrees C raise is no longer possible, and once we get to 2 C (tipping point), it won't be possible to avoid going to 3 C. The carbon sinks are slowing down (ocean 5%, land 15%).
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