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Posted: Oct 8, 2024 - 6:32am



Many of my fellow mets are stunned at the amount of angry crazy conspiracy theories that are flooding their timelines about Helena, FEMA etc.

I think I can at least partially explain it.

It’s extreme cognitive dissonance.

The areas where Helena hit have some of the lowest acceptance of climate change in the USA.

Along comes a hurricane that soaks up the hottest ocean waters on record and produces a rainstorm that wipes out the road and power network across Western North Carolina, tearing up the power from there to the coast. They hear from me and other atmospheric scientists about how this storm was made up to 30% wetter because of climate change and almost certainly stronger. Now, the people in the SE (see map) can tell themselves that they were wrong, and every science body on Earth, including, NOAA and NASA were right. They can adjust their worldview. They can say to themselves that the people telling them that climate change is a big lie were the ones lying to them.

“I’ve learned and will act differently from now on.”

OR

They can squirm as the cognitive dissonance bites and decide that it’s far easier to believe that FEMA is evil and is paying them back. They can accept that the government steered that storm there on purpose.

Yes, it’s a crazy idea to us, but to them, it’s the far more comfortable mind set. You get politicians urging it on, and before you know it, people are going online and talking about taking out the Doppler radar towers, and sending death threats to friends of mine who work on air and online in Alabama and the Carolinas. Most of the really crazy stuff I saw today came from FL,Al, Ga,and TN. That’s where we are. It’s easier to believe the big lie than accept the reality of the situation.

And now comes Cat 5 Hurricane Milton.

Will this be the flash of light that breaks the spell?.

No.

It will lead to even more crazy.

My friends at NOAA and in TV who work near a big radome, be careful for a while. If just 2% fall down the rabbit hole, that’s 6 MILLION people.

Note: Any experts on cognitive biases want to tell me I’m wrong, I’d like to hear from you. I’ll approve any comment from an expert telling me I’m all wrong.

~Dan Satterfield, meteorologist
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Posted: Oct 7, 2024 - 5:45pm


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 7, 2024 - 4:49pm

 haresfur wrote:


Climate change isn't occurring -> Climate change is occurring but people aren't a cause ->  ok, we are a cause but other things... -> Human impacts are too expensive to address ->

...? 

-> We're fucked so no sense trying to keep things from being fucked worse


exactly
haresfur

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Posted: Oct 7, 2024 - 4:41pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Climate change isn't occurring -> Climate change is occurring but people aren't a cause ->  ok, we are a cause but other things... -> Human impacts are too expensive to address ->

...? 

-> We're fucked so no sense trying to keep things from being fucked worse
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 7, 2024 - 3:28pm

R_P

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Posted: Oct 7, 2024 - 3:26pm

It's honestly so fucking perfect that scientists have been warning about emissions driving catastrophic climate change for decades, and now that we have one catastrophic hurricane per week the freak right-wing echo chamber has landed on "the government is controlling the weather"

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Posted: Oct 6, 2024 - 12:06pm


ColdMiser

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Posted: Oct 4, 2024 - 8:19am

 R_P wrote:



one day there will be the ultimate "come to Jesus" storm, but in the meanwhile until Jesus comes to you it's nothing to worry about. 
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Posted: Oct 2, 2024 - 1:46pm


Proclivities

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Posted: Oct 2, 2024 - 1:03pm

 rgio wrote:

I was reading an article, and it said the data was from NOAA's National Center for Environmental Information (NCEI).  

This is a copy/paste of the current website page

NCEI Asheville Hurricane Helene Outage

NCEI in Asheville has been significantly impacted by Hurricane Helene. We are working to resolve these issues as soon as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience.

So much for the data telling them where to locate their center.



Apparently, the Asheville NCEI systems and websites are down.  By the last estimate I read, about 60-65% of customers in Buncombe County (which includes Asheville) do not have any electricity. Some nearby counties are at  80-100% without power.

rgio

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Posted: Oct 2, 2024 - 12:21pm

I was reading an article, and it said the data was from NOAA's National Center for Environmental Information (NCEI).  

This is a copy/paste of the current website page

NCEI Asheville Hurricane Helene Outage

NCEI in Asheville has been significantly impacted by Hurricane Helene. We are working to resolve these issues as soon as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience.

So much for the data telling them where to locate their center.


black321

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Posted: Sep 19, 2024 - 12:50pm

Stop breeding - problem(s) solved!

ColdMiser

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Posted: Sep 19, 2024 - 8:26am

 R_P wrote:

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me it's not Biden and Harris's fault? 
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Posted: Sep 18, 2024 - 6:39pm

Five charts: How climate change is driving up food prices around the world
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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 7:16pm

The Tipping Points of Climate Change — and Where We Stand | Johan Rockström | TED

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Posted: Sep 5, 2024 - 9:50am

When did the climate crisis begin?
How old is the climate crisis?

I was born in 1994, when the concentration of CO₂ in the atmosphere was measured at 360 parts per million; today it is close to 420. Furnaces, engines and former forests emitted 23 billion tonnes of this planet-warming gas in 1994; today they spew more than 37 billion tonnes. With some exceptions (economic downturns, the pandemic), humanity has released more CO₂ into the atmosphere each year than the one before it for at least two centuries.

Earth is not only hotter as a result of all this additional greenhouse gas, it is also getting hotter at a faster and faster rate. Where did it all begin? Figuring that out can tell us who or what is responsible – and what a possible solution looks like. (...)

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Posted: Aug 30, 2024 - 12:50pm


haresfur

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Posted: Aug 29, 2024 - 9:33pm

Antarctic heat, wild Australian winter: what’s happening to the weather and what it means for the rest of the year


TL;DR: Shit's fucked

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Posted: Aug 29, 2024 - 8:30pm


Isabeau

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Posted: Aug 23, 2024 - 10:23am

Meanwhile, in Texas, Guadalupe River tubing has been found to be a dangerous activity....

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