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miamizsun

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Posted: May 29, 2020 - 8:19am

 kurtster wrote:

The answer is long and involved.
 

could you reduce that to two words?

because __________

thx
kurtster

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Posted: May 29, 2020 - 7:15am

 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Quite possibly a soundcheck.  have to break each side into two pieces they are so big.

I do owe a make up for those dreadful Doors rips.  I found out that my cart was way out of alignment and blew those big time.  Those 45 rpm albums are really tough on a cart so I'm coming to find out.

It's been put back into proper form.  Re ripping what I've re ripped already.  For the last time, this time ...
 
I apologize for being dense....but I have a question about ripping...why do it? 

I understand the quality of vinyl discussion and am a believer.  LP's are great.

That said, I just went to look, and there are 49 albums of Todd's on Spotify (solo...there are another 18 for Utopia).  The majority are live and have the same songs...but 49!  If ripping is tough on equipment and brings with it the potential of under-whelming sound quality....why do it?

Beyond the storage, the amazingly low cost of music now (Spotify Premium for 4 accounts costs me $15/month) and the access to virtually anything across every platform and device makes me wonder what you're getting by ripping? 

What am I missing?
 
The answer is long and involved.  I will be most happy to share it.  Soon, it will take some time to put it together.  I'll provide it over in my quiet vinyl thread so as not to clog up this one.  It will be a long journal type of answer.  I'll copy this and paste it as the header when I put it up.

I collect sound, not records. You may be surprised to find that the tactile part of it has the least to do with it for me, which seems to be the primary reason for collecting vinyl these days, besides the sound.  

Cheers !
Steely_D

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Posted: May 28, 2020 - 10:59am



 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Quite possibly a soundcheck.  have to break each side into two pieces they are so big.

I do owe a make up for those dreadful Doors rips.  I found out that my cart was way out of alignment and blew those big time.  Those 45 rpm albums are really tough on a cart so I'm coming to find out.

It's been put back into proper form.  Re ripping what I've re ripped already.  For the last time, this time ...
 
I apologize for being dense....but I have a question about ripping...why do it? 

I understand the quality of vinyl discussion and am a believer.  LP's are great.

That said, I just went to look, and there are 49 albums of Todd's on Spotify (solo...there are another 18 for Utopia).  The majority are live and have the same songs...but 49!  If ripping is tough on equipment and brings with it the potential of under-whelming sound quality....why do it?

Beyond the storage, the amazingly low cost of music now (Spotify Premium for 4 accounts costs me $15/month) and the access to virtually anything across every platform and device makes me wonder what you're getting by ripping? 

What am I missing?
 

I'm looking at Tidal, and not completely impressed, but there are albums (not many of Todd's) that are Master Quality. Things like Gaucho. As we move more towards digital warehouses with high quality files, you can imagine that in a relatively short period we'll be able to access the stuff straight off the master tapes without compression. As much as I love the tactile experience of vinyl, will it become like microfiche, necessary then but not now?
rgio

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Posted: May 28, 2020 - 8:11am



 kurtster wrote:

Quite possibly a soundcheck.  have to break each side into two pieces they are so big.

I do owe a make up for those dreadful Doors rips.  I found out that my cart was way out of alignment and blew those big time.  Those 45 rpm albums are really tough on a cart so I'm coming to find out.

It's been put back into proper form.  Re ripping what I've re ripped already.  For the last time, this time ...
 
I apologize for being dense....but I have a question about ripping...why do it? 

I understand the quality of vinyl discussion and am a believer.  LP's are great.

That said, I just went to look, and there are 49 albums of Todd's on Spotify (solo...there are another 18 for Utopia).  The majority are live and have the same songs...but 49!  If ripping is tough on equipment and brings with it the potential of under-whelming sound quality....why do it?

Beyond the storage, the amazingly low cost of music now (Spotify Premium for 4 accounts costs me $15/month) and the access to virtually anything across every platform and device makes me wonder what you're getting by ripping? 

What am I missing?
kurtster

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Posted: May 28, 2020 - 6:25am

 miamizsun wrote:


i'll step up and do a sound check when you're done

you know, as a favor

and yeah, sometimes better never than late

but not this time, late is definitely better than never
 
Quite possibly a soundcheck.  have to break each side into two pieces they are so big.

I do owe a make up for those dreadful Doors rips.  I found out that my cart was way out of alignment and blew those big time.  Those 45 rpm albums are really tough on a cart so I'm coming to find out.

It's been put back into proper form.  Re ripping what I've re ripped already.  For the last time, this time ...
miamizsun

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Posted: May 28, 2020 - 6:16am

 kurtster wrote:

Whoosh.  This went right by me back then.  I'm currently ripping Wizard ... {#Doh}

yes, I do remember these crazy little things ...
 

i'll step up and do a sound check when you're done

you know, as a favor

and yeah, sometimes better never than late

but not this time, late is definitely better than never
kurtster

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Posted: May 28, 2020 - 6:10am

 kurtster wrote:
 miamizsun wrote:
Here we are again, the start of the end

But there's more


I only want to see if you'll give up on me


But there's always more


 
{#Yes}

It's what keeps me keepin' on.
 
Whoosh.  This went right by me back then.  I'm currently ripping Wizard ... {#Doh}

yes, I do remember these crazy little things ...
miamizsun

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 4:55am

 miamizsun wrote:
You hear and you see yet you do not believe...
 


But the vision shines on and on


It will shine when we all are gone


miamizsun

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Posted: May 20, 2020 - 1:21pm

You hear and you see yet you do not believe...
Steely_D

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Posted: Feb 18, 2020 - 7:22pm


ColdMiser

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Posted: Feb 6, 2020 - 7:28am



 miamizsun wrote:

seems appropriate 
 
Sure does, so would Public Servant (I'd find it and post but not able to do so at work). "Pubic Servant, Public Slave. It's one big long slide from the cradle to the grave."

miamizsun

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Posted: Feb 4, 2020 - 4:48am


seems appropriate 
ColdMiser

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Posted: Jan 31, 2020 - 7:08am



 Steely_D wrote:


 ColdMiser wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


not only that but the band is phenomenal 

of course kasim sulton is super talented on the bass and vocals

and the percussion/drummer trey sabatelli (i think) just whips it with style


 
I saw the 2018 Utopia re-union tour (minus Roger Powell who had health issues) and they played The Ikon (or portions of it anyway). One of the classic prog rock songs of the 70's. Todd and Kasim were phenomenal in the show.

 

I posted down below some stuff about Gil Assyas. He talks in an interview about how he didn't realize that he was single-handedly reproducing the synth work that three people had done originally. Heh.

That was a fun reunion, and I wonder if it happened because of things like this



 
I've yet to see Kasim solo, this might be the one to catch. I think he is playing Daryl's House which I've wanted to check out and isn't to to far from Jersey.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 30, 2020 - 3:05pm



 ColdMiser wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


not only that but the band is phenomenal 

of course kasim sulton is super talented on the bass and vocals

and the percussion/drummer trey sabatelli (i think) just whips it with style


 
I saw the 2018 Utopia re-union tour (minus Roger Powell who had health issues) and they played The Ikon (or portions of it anyway). One of the classic prog rock songs of the 70's. Todd and Kasim were phenomenal in the show.

 

I posted down below some stuff about Gil Assyas. He talks in an interview about how he didn't realize that he was single-handedly reproducing the synth work that three people had done originally. Heh.

That was a fun reunion, and I wonder if it happened because of things like this



ColdMiser

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Posted: Jan 30, 2020 - 7:10am



 miamizsun wrote:


not only that but the band is phenomenal 

of course kasim sulton is super talented on the bass and vocals

and the percussion/drummer trey sabatelli (i think) just whips it with style


 
I saw the 2018 Utopia re-union tour (minus Roger Powell who had health issues) and they played The Ikon (or portions of it anyway). One of the classic prog rock songs of the 70's. Todd and Kasim were phenomenal in the show.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 30, 2020 - 5:24am

 Steely_D wrote:
He's in fine form here

 

not only that but the band is phenomenal 

of course kasim sulton is super talented on the bass and vocals

and the percussion/drummer trey sabatelli (i think) just whips it with style


miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 30, 2020 - 5:06am

 ColdMiser wrote:

Don't you ever F***ing Forget!

 

the solos in that song are cosmic
rgio

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020 - 12:51pm



 kurtster wrote:

That is Bristol IIRC.  I lived in Philly from 68 to 71.  Graduated from Lower Moreland HS in Huntingdon Valley in 70.  Rundgren is one of my fond memories of Philly, but he was adapted as Cleveland's favorite son in the 70's.  He was known here simply as TR.  A fan from Nazz onward.

Remember the Bristol Stomp ?
.
 
I remember it only in theory...too young.  I know the TR songs, but only by going backward from around 1980.

Bristol.  I lived across the Burlington-Bristol Bridge growing up and played ice hockey in Bristol.  My first high school game I played for Bishop Egan...as a 7th grader (they needed players or they had to forfeit, so my coached asked me and 2 other guys to play in the HS game after our practice one day).

No wonder you left Bristol...Hillary carried the township by 25 points in 2016!

kurtster

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020 - 11:15am

 rgio wrote:
I was sitting in a bar over the weekend about 5 miles from Rundgren's hometown when "Hello it's me" came on.  It reminded me how much I missed some of his music.  As a Philly kid in the late 70's/80's, Todd and Utopia were a big part of the local music scene.
 
That is Bristol IIRC.  I lived in Philly from 68 to 71.  Graduated from Lower Moreland HS in Huntingdon Valley in 70.  Rundgren is one of my fond memories of Philly, but he was adapted as Cleveland's favorite son in the 70's.  He was known here simply as TR.  A fan from Nazz onward.

Remember the Bristol Stomp ?
.
rgio

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020 - 8:28am

I was sitting in a bar over the weekend about 5 miles from Rundgren's hometown when "Hello it's me" came on.  It reminded me how much I missed some of his music.  As a Philly kid in the late 70's/80's, Todd and Utopia were a big part of the local music scene.
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