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beamends
Posted:
May 30, 2011 - 10:56pm
MrsHobieJoe wrote: It's going to be interesting to see how they are going to replace the 23% of their generating capacity - plus power all those electric cars that are being touted so hard.
bokey
Gender:
Posted:
May 30, 2011 - 10:16pm
MrsHobieJoe wrote: Gee- The german government bonkers? Whoulda ever thunk it?
MrsHobieJoe
Location: somewhere in Europe Gender:
jadewahoo
Location: Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica Gender:
Posted:
May 29, 2011 - 9:54pm
"It's definite. The latest end for the last three nuclear power plants is 2022. There will be no clause for revision." Sanity has broke out in Germany!
NoEnzLefttoSplit
Gender:
Posted:
Apr 24, 2011 - 8:47pm
miamizsun wrote: Savior if done properly, like with
Thorium. As usual our government/politics are in the way of common sense solutions.
The real issues? Government can't make weapons of mass destruction with Thorium.
Thorium is much more plentiful, infinitely safer, and multiples more efficient (Thorium reactors can't melt down either)
Does it have some challenges, yes, but they are far less complicated than current nuclear.
China and India are moving ahead with Thorium.
Thorium reactors can burn the current waste we have and produce scads of energy from it.
A short condensed vid on Thorium.
Agree.
peter_james_bond
Location: West Of The Burg Gender:
Posted:
Apr 24, 2011 - 3:54pm
miamizsun wrote: Savior if done properly, like with
Thorium. As usual our government/politics are in the way of common sense solutions.
The real issues? Government can't make weapons of mass destruction with Thorium.
Thorium is much more plentiful, infinitely safer, and multiples more efficient (Thorium reactors can't melt down either)
Does it have some challenges, yes, but they are far less complicated than current nuclear.
China and India are moving ahead with Thorium.
Thorium reactors can burn the current waste we have and produce scads of energy from it.
A short condensed vid on Thorium.
Thorium makes perfect sense....therefore it won't happen....
miamizsun
Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP) Gender:
Posted:
Apr 24, 2011 - 6:18am
Savior if done properly, like with
Thorium. As usual our government/politics are in the way of common sense solutions.
The real issues? Government can't make weapons of mass destruction with Thorium.
Thorium is much more plentiful, infinitely safer, and multiples more efficient (Thorium reactors can't melt down either)
Does it have some challenges, yes, but they are far less complicated than current nuclear.
China and India are moving ahead with Thorium.
Thorium reactors can burn the current waste we have and produce scads of energy from it.
A short condensed vid on Thorium.
NoEnzLefttoSplit
Gender:
Posted:
Apr 23, 2011 - 10:31pm
Don't know if anybody else has been following it but there has been a series of excellent articles on this issue in the Guardian (both for and against). The comments are also worth reading (if you have time!!).
This latest blog entry is perhaps a good place to start.
Unsure about nuclear power? Five questions.
peter_james_bond
Location: West Of The Burg Gender:
Posted:
Mar 28, 2011 - 5:02pm
Japan's government has been accused of allowing an incestuous relationship to develop with power giant Tepco to the detriment of safety standards. Senior government figures have become accustomed to lucrative posts in the energy sector on retiring from public life and criticism of companies like Tepco has consequently been muted.
Mitsuhiko Tanaka, a retired nuclear engineer who had worked on the Fukushima reactors, said the "nuclear village" in which public officials, academics and power company employees avoided criticising each other had created a dangerous consensus which had made the industry less accountable.
Influential nuclear critic and MP, Taro Kono, went further, suggesting the power lobby's influence on the media, where it is among the country's leading advertisers, had insulated it from proper inspection. "The power industry is one of the largest spenders so media can't criticise it," he said.
This all sounds very similar to the situation in Canada, especially in the province of Ontario.
beamends
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 9:14am
NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: Most definitely. Australia is a lot denser than that.
NoEnzLefttoSplit
Gender:
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 9:13am
beamends wrote: I think it should be noted that some of these figures, particularly for Australia, are open to debate.
Most definitely. Australia is a lot denser than that.
beamends
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 9:00am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: Estimated world thorium resources1
(Reasonably assured and inferred resources recoverable at up to $80/kg Th) Country Tonnes % of total Australia 489,000
19
USA 400,000
15
Turkey 344,000
13
India 319,000
12
Venezuela 300,000
12
Brazil 302,000
12
Norway 132,000
5
Egypt 100,000
4
Russia 75,000
3
Greenland 54,000
2
Canada 44,000
2
South Africa 18,000
1
Other countries 33,000
1
World total 2,610,000
I think it should be noted that some of these figures, particularly for Australia, are open to debate.
islander
Location: Seattle Gender:
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 8:55am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: Estimated world thorium resources1
(Reasonably assured and inferred resources recoverable at up to $80/kg Th) Country Tonnes % of total Australia 489,000
19
USA 400,000
15
Turkey 344,000
13
India 319,000
12
Venezuela 300,000
12
Brazil 302,000
12
Norway 132,000
5
Egypt 100,000
4
Russia 75,000
3
Greenland 54,000
2
Canada 44,000
2
South Africa 18,000
1
Other countries 33,000
1
World total 2,610,000
Great, here come the Canadians....
And heavy water breeder reactors using thorium are a fantastic energy source. Politics is the only reason we don't have them running everywhere.
ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 8:51am
beamends wrote: Thorium looks like a less problematic solution, though I don't doubt it will have it's own problems. Inevitably there's only one way to find out
In answer to the question : Saviour - with reservations.
Estimated world thorium resources1
(Reasonably assured and inferred resources recoverable at up to $80/kg Th) Country Tonnes % of total Australia 489,000
19
USA 400,000
15
Turkey 344,000
13
India 319,000
12
Venezuela 300,000
12
Brazil 302,000
12
Norway 132,000
5
Egypt 100,000
4
Russia 75,000
3
Greenland 54,000
2
Canada 44,000
2
South Africa 18,000
1
Other countries 33,000
1
World total 2,610,000
miamizsun
Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP) Gender:
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 6:40am
bokey wrote: What's with the '70's porn music background? I keep waiting for the plumber to show up so the housewife with the huge,unshaved bush on her crotch can open the door with her negligee all askew.
I almost mentioned that. It definitely scored points with me.
bokey
Gender:
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 5:50am
miamizsun wrote: ok, i stayed up late and got up early reading and watching some info on what
may be is a very viable alternative to this situation.
In a word, Thorium. (It's cheap, plentiful, way more efficient and you can't make bombs/weapons with it, which is why I believe the powers that be have worked to squelch it. )
Here's some easy to understand vids from howstuffworks. com the political angle
please feel free to comment.
What's with the '70's porn music background? I keep waiting for the plumber to show up so the housewife with the huge, unshaved bush on her crotch can open the door with her negligee all askew.
beamends
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 5:47am
miamizsun wrote: ok, i stayed up late and got up early reading and watching some info on what may be is a very viable alternative to this situation. In a word, Thorium. (It's cheap, plentiful, way more efficient and you can't make bombs/weapons with it, which is why I believe the powers that be have worked to squelch it.
Thorium looks like a less problematic solution, though I don't doubt it will have it's own problems. Inevitably there's only one way to find out
In answer to the question : Saviour - with reservations.
miamizsun
Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP) Gender:
Posted:
Mar 23, 2011 - 5:11am
Umberdog
Location: In my body. Gender:
Posted:
Mar 22, 2011 - 8:07pm
If it wasn't for all the money involved I'm pretty sure it would be illegal to threaten the public health like nuclear power has potential, not to mention what kinds of disasters it can cause. But when it comes to comfort, convenience, and money, everything else seems expendable. I say it's a scourge.
nuggler
Location: RU Sirius ? Gender:
Posted:
Mar 22, 2011 - 5:49pm
"The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? I just want you to think big, Henry, for chrissakes. The only place where you and I disagree is with regard to the bombing. You’re so goddamned concerned about civilians, and I don’t give a damn. I don’t care." ~ Nixon to Kissinger April 25, 1972