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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 11:37am

I like Alan Watts' definition of The Meaning of Life: "Life is music — and you're supposed to be dancing."
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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 11:10am


Lazy8

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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 10:50am

 black321 wrote:
No beginning, or end.
Zero = Everything or Zero = Nothing


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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 10:42am

 Lazy8 wrote:

Zero is also a number.


No beginning, or end.
Zero = Everything or Zero = Nothing
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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 9:36am

 black321 wrote:

Hmm, why bother?
Their answer is always the same: nothing. 
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Zero is also a number.
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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 9:02am

Hmm, why bother?
Their answer is always the same: nothing. 
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Lazy8

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Posted: Apr 20, 2023 - 8:44am

 thisbody wrote:

Besides any question of a creator or not, why do atheists always appear to be so arrogant, when counter-arguing any theism at all? 

Beats me. 

Just recently dug into this one bestseller by a jewish author on the history of mankind (novel, hyped)... 

Again, same issue. 

Boring in the long run, even though partially funny.


It's National Ask an Atheist Day, and I see we already have a question!

We appear arrogant because it's hard—very hard—to face the same stupid argument over and over and continue to take it seriously. We're human.

And it's boring for us too, but the situations are a mite different—there's a massive power imbalance between the camps. No atheist will tell you you aren't qualified to run for office, sit on a jury, or raise children because you have an invisible friend. We wouldn't kick you out of the Boy Scouts, or tell our children not to play with yours. We don't stone people to death over who they want to have sex with.

If you'd rather not face stinging sarcasm come up with a question that hasn't been asked and answered over and over.

You're welcome!
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 4:36pm

Besides any question of a creator or not, why do atheists always appear to be so arrogant, when counter-arguing any theism at all? 

Beats me. 

Just recently dug into this one bestseller by a jewish author on the history of mankind (novel, hyped)... 

Again, same issue. 

Boring in the long run, even though partially funny.
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 2:02pm

 R_P wrote:
 Lazy8 wrote:
I can't make myself care one way or another. Let's say reincarnation is real: so what. Tell me what I should do differently in that case, and maybe I'll start.

Apparently you need a miserable/unenlightened life in order to be eligible...
 
No more than you need a lie to propagate a truth. Otherwise a state of grace is no more than a faithless rejoinder. If belief were the same as forgiveness then charlatans would be out of business from the start...
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Posted: Apr 24, 2022 - 1:17pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
I can't make myself care one way or another. Let's say reincarnation is real: so what. Tell me what I should do differently in that case, and maybe I'll start.

Apparently you need a miserable/unenlightened life in order to be eligible...
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Posted: Apr 24, 2022 - 6:58am

 oldviolin wrote:

internal or external? made man or man made? shoe fits or wear it?



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Posted: Apr 24, 2022 - 6:43am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 oldviolin wrote:
 
Christopher Hitchens | Atheist quotes, Christopher hitchens quote, Christopher  hitchens
LED or?
 
internal or external? made man or man made? shoe fits or wear it?
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Posted: Apr 23, 2022 - 10:46pm

 steeler wrote:

This is my thinking. The same with the eternal debate about the existence of God/god. That debate, in my view, is academic/philosophical. If it could be definitively answered right now, either way, what changes? I would not foresee a change in how I live my life. I do not have a need or  even a desire to seek an answer to that question of the existence of God.


Ah! An apatheist.
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Posted: Apr 23, 2022 - 7:36am

 steeler wrote:

This is my thinking. The same with the eternal debate about the existence of God/god. That debate, in my view, is academic/philosophical. If it could be definitively answered right now, either way, what changes? I would not foresee a change in how I live my life. I do not have a need or  even a desire to seek an answer to that question of the existence of God.

It pisses my wife off (Who is more of a militant atheist), that I just choose to redefine god as "All that is unknown and Unknowable". Something I borrowed from Joseph Campbell book.  For conventions sake I do say that by your definition, I am an atheist. 

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Posted: Apr 23, 2022 - 5:03am

 Lazy8 wrote:

I can't make myself care one way or another. Let's say reincarnation is real: so what. Tell me what I should do differently in that case, and maybe I'll start.

This is my thinking. The same with the eternal debate about the existence of God/god. That debate, in my view, is academic/philosophical. If it could be definitively answered right now, either way, what changes? I would not foresee a change in how I live my life. I do not have a need or  even a desire to seek an answer to that question of the existence of God.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2022 - 8:48pm

kurtster wrote:
We have some interesting circumstances with some conflicting evidence (the type of airplane involved, the name of the alleged reincarnated pilot) and you have a conjecture as to where all this comes from. The way you determine the truth is by testing the hypothesis. Piling on anecdotes proves nothing; selection bias will present evidence that tends to confirm the hypothesis and ignore that which conflicts. Research the case and question the lad about details only the allegedly reincarnated pilot would know. Make the questions specific enough that a guess is unlikely to be correct.

That is...if you actually want to determine if the hypothesis is correct or not. I know no more about this than you do, and I have nothing at stake in the answer. I can't say that reincarnation never happens, no one can. We can't even define the soul, let alone track it from life to life. But I'm not making a claim of supernatural phenomena—you are. The burden of proof is on those who make the claim.

I can't make myself care one way or another. Let's say reincarnation is real: so what. Tell me what I should do differently in that case, and maybe I'll start.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2022 - 9:30am

 Lazy8 wrote:
kurtster wrote:
Thanks.  Followup, are you open to the possibility ?

Make your case.
 
I am at work, so briefly this would be my opener.
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https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/wp-content/uploads/sites/360/2017/04/REI42-Tucker-James-LeiningerPIIS1550830716000331.pdf
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Posted: Apr 22, 2022 - 8:04am

 miamizsun wrote:

QED?



RSVP
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Posted: Apr 22, 2022 - 7:55am

kurtster wrote:
Thanks.  Followup, are you open to the possibility ?

Make your case.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2022 - 7:43am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


LED or?

QED?

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