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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 12:45pm

 thisbody wrote:

There could be many things to say about imperialistic ambitions......
In my opinion it is false to blame these on Russia & Iran, but not on the US. Just count the US military bases around the world. The US are the No 1 top hegemon on Earth these days, and not Russia, and not China! ...just simply because CAPITALISM... I think the major conflict lies right there:
The USA began selling their belongings to private investors in the 1970s. Land, gold, and everything. The rest of the West followed suit. Now we have a mess of capitalist exploitation where roads, bridges, rails, hospitals, doctors, and even food (restaurants) can't be paid for anymore. The publice has sold all their silver and gold and even the price for rice or wheat is depending on the stock market with terrible consequences for entire nations. 
The promised "democracy" in many cases has been bringing famine and diseases instead. This goes on even today, as the trade for basic goods (such as rice - the world's no. 1 food) on the stock markets goes on without any hindrance, in some cases leading to famines for whole peoples.

I end here for now, as we can lube the world-axis together...






alright.. there is a lot to unpick here and I am not going to do it tonight.  I'll get back to you when I have time. This deserves a longer response.


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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 12:19pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
I honour your ambitions, if that is what your true ambitions are. I even share them, in the form you stated above. But these ambitions are categorically opposed to the imperialistic ambitions of Russia and the arch-conservative religious doctrine of Iran. 

All I expect of people is intellectual honesty. I am not entirely convinced you are bringing it to the discussion.

There could be many things to say about imperialistic ambitions......
In my opinion it is false to blame these on Russia & Iran, but not on the US. Just count the US military bases around the world. The US are the No 1 top hegemon on Earth these days, and not Russia, and not China! ...just simply because CAPITALISM... I think the major conflict lies right there:
The USA began selling their belongings to private investors in the 1970s. Land, gold, and everything. The rest of the West followed suit. Now we have a mess of capitalist exploitation where roads, bridges, rails, hospitals, doctors, and even food (restaurants) can't be paid for anymore. The publice has sold all their silver and gold and even the price for rice or wheat is depending on the stock market with terrible consequences for entire nations. 
The promised "democracy" in many cases has been bringing famine and diseases instead. This goes on even today, as the trade for basic goods (such as rice - the world's no. 1 food) on the stock markets goes on without any hindrance, in some cases leading to famines for whole peoples.

I end here for now, as I think we can (should) lube the world-axis together...



I'm being honest - even if you're not.


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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 12:11pm

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The one who trained you in political arguing deserves intellectual praise in an intellectual Olymp (and only in a this'ya ivory tower). My rationale is much simpler. Not siding with Russia, nor Iran, I plead for peace. A peace where no-one is hungry for more money, and more power. A peace, where all people of the earth are content with what they have. Because there is enough to share among us, and no-one needs to go hungry.

All people are equal. No-one is above another. Equality. Fraternity. World brotherhood.

This is what motivates me.

Call me an idiot, call me demented, whatever you like. This is what motivates me.

But don't try to fight me, in your best interest, as I don't start a fight but usually end it, and at war, I don't take prisoners. This is what I can tell you about me and my motivation, Bruce.


I honour your ambitions, if that is what your true ambitions are. I even share them, in the form you stated above. But these ambitions are categorically opposed to the imperialistic ambitions of Russia and the arch-conservative religious doctrine of Iran. 

All I expect of people is intellectual honesty. I am not entirely convinced you are bringing it to the discussion.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 12:01pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Sigh, again Täter-Opfer-Umkehr..   

1. Russia is the aggressor in the Ukrainian war. It even broke the treaties that itself signed. And you can't blame it on the US anymore, because the U.S. has been doing sweet FA for the last six months, and even before that it set more red lines on Ukraine than it ever did on Russia.  Obviously NONE of this is the fault of the U.S. If it were, this war would have been well and truly won by now. 

2. The Iranian regime is currently trying to keep its grip on power against a groundswell of political opposition (notably led by women who have a guts-full of  aging religious fanatics telling them how to live.

You can twist it all you like,  but by supporting Russia and Iran, you're on the side of the misogynist reactionaries who don't want us to have any freedoms. 

The one who trained you in political arguing deserves intellectual praise in an intellectual Olymp (and only in a this'ya ivory tower). My rationale is much simpler. Not siding with Russia, nor Iran, I plead for peace. A peace where no-one is hungry for more money, and more power. A peace, where all people of the earth are content with what they have. Because there is enough to share among us, and no-one needs to go hungry.

All people are equal. No-one is above another. Equality. Fraternity. World brotherhood.

This is what motivates me.

Call me an idiot, call me demented, whatever you like. This is what motivates me.

But don't try to fight me, in your best interest, as I don't start a fight but usually end it, and at war, I don't take prisoners. This is what I can tell you about me and my motivation, Bruce.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 11:45am

 thisbody wrote:

If you wouldn't advise for bombing the hell out of the rest of the world (the parts in which you apparently don't live) this could actually be a plan, Bruce!


Sigh, again Täter-Opfer-Umkehr..   

1. Russia is the aggressor in the Ukrainian war. It even broke the treaties that itself signed. And you can't blame it on the US anymore, because the U.S. has been doing sweet FA for the last six months, and even before that it set more red lines on Ukraine than it ever did on Russia.  Obviously NONE of this is the fault of the U.S. If it were, this war would have been well and truly won by now. 

2. The Iranian regime is currently trying to keep its grip on power against a groundswell of political opposition (notably led by women who have a guts-full of  aging religious fanatics telling them how to live.

You can twist it all you like,  but by supporting Russia and Iran, you're on the side of the misogynist reactionaries who don't want us to have any freedoms.  



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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 11:20am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
you're cute. I have two kids. I want them to grow up in civilised countries where people respect each other for the mere fact that they are human,, where they can speak their mind, not suffer retribution for it, vote for whom they want and have the maximum of opportunity to lead rich and fulfilling lives.

If you wouldn't advise for bombing the hell out of the rest of the world (the parts in which you apparently don't live) this could actually be a plan, Bruce!

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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 11:06am

 thisbody wrote:

Just another recipe for more WAR from your end. Neither good nor bad, just perfect warmongerin'...
What is your PERSONAL gain per capita, as I'm sure you can measure it in dollars and cents by now, given the mechanical repetitions you keep putting on here?





you're cute. I have two kids. I want them to grow up in civilised countries where people respect each other for the mere fact that they are human,, where they can speak their mind, not suffer retribution for it, vote for whom they want and have the maximum of opportunity to lead rich and fulfilling lives. 

so, what's your motivation?

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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 10:47am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


Note that Russia and Iran are allies. Both are reactionary regimes facing widespread domestic* groundswell moves towards democracy. It is in Russia's interest to distract the U.S. from Ukraine. It is in Iran's interest to stoke up anti-western, anti-democratic sentiment in the region. They share a lot of common objectives.



Just another recipe for more WAR from your end. Neither good nor bad, just perfect warmongerin'...
What is your PERSONAL gain per capita, as I'm sure you can measure it in dollars and cents by now, given the mechanical repetitions you keep putting on here?



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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 1:02am

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Well it happened.  So now what ?  Someone wake up Joe.  He'll fix everything.  Most experienced POTUS, evah !


Note that Russia and Iran are allies. Both are reactionary regimes facing widespread domestic* groundswell moves towards democracy. It is in Russia's interest to distract the U.S. from Ukraine. It is in Iran's interest to stoke up anti-western, anti-democratic sentiment in the region. They share a lot of common objectives.


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Posted: Apr 14, 2024 - 12:28am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: 
Well it happened.  So now what ?  Someone wake up Joe.  He'll fix everything.  Most experienced POTUS, evah !
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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 3:20pm

So when will the USA end its toxic relationship of co-dependency with Israel?   When will the USA stop enabling Israel with bunker bombs, money and diplomatic cover?

Or are American citizens too invested in ethnic cleansing, terrorism and baby killing?  
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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 6:26am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

And the evangelicals in America will begin cheering wildly for Armageddon.
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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 6:08am

oh ffs

An Iranian attack on Israel could occur within the next few hours, CBS says citing US officials. The attack could include more than 100 drones and dozens of missiles aming for military targets. A smaller attack is also possible to avoid major escalation.
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Posted: Apr 11, 2024 - 10:36pm

‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
Permissive airstrikes on non-military targets and the use of an artificial intelligence system have enabled the Israeli army to carry out its deadliest war on Gaza, a +972 and Local Call investigation reveals.


Yuval Abraham
By Yuval Abraham November 30, 2023


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The Israeli army’s expanded authorization for bombing non-military targets, the loosening of constraints regarding expected civilian casualties, and the use of an artificial intelligence system to generate more potential targets than ever before, appear to have contributed to the destructive nature of the initial stages of Israel’s current war on the Gaza Strip, an investigation by +972 Magazine and Local Call reveals. These factors, as described by current and former Israeli intelligence members, have likely played a role in producing what has been one of the deadliest military campaigns against Palestinians since the Nakba of 1948.

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Posted: Apr 10, 2024 - 10:52am

Israel's killing of aid workers is no accident. It's part of the plan to destroy Gaza
The isolation of Gaza is almost complete. The laws of war have been torn up and the enclave is now completely at Israel’s mercy
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Posted: Apr 8, 2024 - 3:33pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
oh so terribly witty!  
Have you really not got anything of more substance? I mean, I'm not saying there is any easy solution out there, but this is pretty thin, you gotta admit.

think i saw one that was a bit longer, probably find it on yt


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Posted: Apr 8, 2024 - 2:38pm

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oh so terribly witty!  
Have you really not got anything of more substance? I mean, I'm not saying there is any easy solution out there, but this is pretty thin, you gotta admit.
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