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hippiechick

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:57am

And besides, the exact opposite is happening, so what you say isn't even up for discussion.
hippiechick

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:55am

 kurtster wrote:

I've put out enough already to begin a conversation.  There is lot's of room for an interesting non partisan discussion on this topic.

The idea of Happiness is so profound that it was used as a reason to start a whole new country and reinforce the idea as a worthy ideal.

Apply it to my public school example and tell me how playing to a deliberate tie is good and consistent with the pursuit of Happiness and not contrary to the ideal of the equal sharing of misery.

 


Because non -competitive cooperation is healthier and more relevant than violent competition in the 21st century?
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:47am

 kurtster wrote:

I've put out enough already to begin a conversation.  There is lot's of room for an interesting non partisan discussion on this topic.

The idea of Happiness is so profound that it was used as a reason to start a whole new country and reinforce the idea as a worthy ideal.

Apply it to my public school example and tell me how playing to a deliberate tie is good and consistent with the pursuit of Happiness and not contrary to the ideal of the equal sharing of misery.

 
Socialism exists as an idea because a lot of people simply reject the idea that in a modern world so many people especially children should go hungry as the millionaire movie stars and athletes you speak of lament on the taxes they have to pay on their Lamborghini's or opulent palaces in gated communities (or injustices of a Czars lifestyle vs. a peasant). You are entering an enormous philosophical discussion from a rather narrow viewpoint skewed suspiciously towards a somewhat different subject imo than the pursuit of happiness and its general importance to the founding fathers.


kurtster

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:34am

 hippiechick wrote:

Why do you think that this is a bad thing?

 
I've put out enough already to begin a conversation.  There is lot's of room for an interesting non partisan discussion on this topic.

The idea of Happiness is so profound that it was used as a reason to start a whole new country and reinforce the idea as a worthy ideal.

Apply it to my public school example and tell me how playing to a deliberate tie is good and consistent with the pursuit of Happiness and not contrary to the ideal of the equal sharing of misery.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:16am

 kurtster wrote:

We'll see.

Another example can be infered by the playing of games in public grade schools where no one is allowed to win.  The teams play to a tie so there are no winners and losers.  No hurt feelings of losing are allowed.  Conversely, no happiness in winning is allowed.

I think this really cuts through all the bs and strips it down to the bare bones.  This is the core.  Its about the social paradigm shift were are in the middle of or end of depending on your persuasion.

 
Why do you think that this is a bad thing?
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:14am

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Oh for goodness sakes. {#Rolleyes} {#Doh}

 
We'll see.

Another example can be infered by the playing of games in public grade schools where no one is allowed to win.  The teams play to a tie so there are no winners and losers.  No hurt feelings of losing are allowed.  Conversely, no happiness in winning is allowed.

I think this really cuts through all the bs and strips it down to the bare bones.  This is the core.  Its about the social paradigm shift were are in the middle of or end of depending on your persuasion.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:56am

 kurtster wrote:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Sir Winston Churchill.

The Founders of this great country were aware of many things.  The concept of Happiness was so important that it was given star billing in the Declaration Of Independence … the pursuit of Happiness.

Class warfare is an attack on happiness when considered in Churchill’s remarks.  The same can be said of secular attacks on religious events.

How is it that we idolize millionaire movie stars, canonize millionaire rock stars and worship millionaire athletes, yet demonize millionaire entrepreneurs and businessmen ?

There is a war on Happiness.  The fact that the smallest of voices can now attack and silence the joy or celebration of the many by claiming their rights are being trampled is absurd, for openers.



 
Oh for goodness sakes. {#Rolleyes} {#Doh}
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:47am

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Sir Winston Churchill.

The Founders of this great country were aware of many things.  The concept of Happiness was so important that it was given star billing in the Declaration Of Independence … the pursuit of Happiness.

Class warfare is an attack on happiness when considered in Churchill’s remarks.  The same can be said of secular attacks on religious events.

How is it that we idolize millionaire movie stars, canonize millionaire rock stars and worship millionaire athletes, yet demonize millionaire entrepreneurs and businessmen ?

There is a war on Happiness.  The fact that the smallest of voices can now attack and silence the joy or celebration of the many by claiming their rights are being trampled is absurd, for openers.




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