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westslope

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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 10:37am

 Proclivities wrote:

Well, I've seen no citation where either of them actually said that in those exact words.  Cows produce methane which is non-toxic to humans, carbon dioxide is toxic - so the "garage' experiment is not a valid test.  Pollution and poisonous fumes are not the same things.  Closer to what they (and others) have said is that methane released worldwide by cows is estimated to be comparable to the amount of pollution released by cars and trucks, and that methane is more potent when it comes to warming the planet.  


True, true, true.   But it is funny (thanks kurtster!).  And it does hint at something that climate change/disruption activists have missed.

Climate emissions and health emissions are highly correlated.  

Reduce climate change emissions and one will end up with a healthier population.  A healthier population that is in a far better position to cope with deadly threats such as the SARS2 pandemic.  

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In passing, harsh restrictions on natural gas flaring would have likely slowed the pace of the once frenetic shale oil  boom and created more social wealth for the USA instead of destroying social wealth.   Unfortunately, such regulations would interfere with the 'get rich quick 'n easy' and closely related 'freedom' narratives.   


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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 6:41am

 miamizsun wrote:

hey i've got an idea!
maybe we should let this thread scab over and heal up a bit?



“The wound is the place where the Light enters you.”
― Rumi



Indubitably...
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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 6:30am

 Manbird wrote:


why are you even here?



BYBHIW


miamizsun

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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 4:32am

hey i've got an idea!
maybe we should let this thread scab over and heal up a bit?



“The wound is the place where the Light enters you.”
― Rumi

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 11:56pm

 kurtster wrote:

No. 

Maybe I should start drinking like the rest of you.

No, not a good idea.  I don't want to be like the rest of you.


why are you even here?
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:51pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
You should try tea.
 
No. 

Maybe I should start drinking like the rest of you.

No, not a good idea.  I don't want to be like the rest of you.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:46pm

 R_P wrote:

I've heard that gives you hairy palms and makes you go blind.



Scintillating scotomas!  
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:45pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
You should try tea.

I've heard that gives you hairy palms and makes you go blind.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:40pm

 kurtster wrote:

You're a real piece of work.  Spineless, gutless, afraid of everything and unprincipled you are.

But then look who you voted for.  And you believe everything CNN tells you on top of it all.

Sweet dreams of Trump and the Wuhan Virus. 

I know you are looking forward to waking up in your own personal hell in the morning, every morning in your red state Trumpland.

Let's go Brandon !!!    
{#Whipit}


You should try tea.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:38pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Also smoking dope when it's ILLEGAL. Just a little "civil disobedience", right?

 
You're a real piece of work.  Spineless, gutless, afraid of everything and unprincipled you are.

But then look who you voted for.  And you believe everything CNN tells you on top of it all.

Sweet dreams of Trump and the Wuhan Virus. 

I know you are looking forward to waking up in your own personal hell in the morning, every morning in your red state Trumpland.

Let's go Brandon !!!    {#Whipit}
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:25pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Also smoking dope when it's ILLEGAL. Just a little "civil disobedience", right?



I know. And smoking dope turns you all into ALIENS. I know. I've seen it happen.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:50pm

 R_P wrote:

Sh!t-posting while at work?! Does your boss know about this disturbing lack of productivity?



Also smoking dope when it's ILLEGAL. Just a little "civil disobedience", right?

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:50pm

 kurtster wrote:

wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Contrary to accusations made by haresfur, I do not work under the influence of anything.

Dealing with crazy people (present company excepted) is best done sober and as lucidly as possible.


Without getting into an argument about potential longer-term residual effects of marijuana, I believe my point is that that I'm glad I no longer see the urologist who was busted for reckless driving under the influence of drugs with children in the back seat, whether or not he was high when he was blasting a green laser at my insides like a Jedi.
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:46pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Sh!t-posting while at work?! Does your boss know about this disturbing lack of productivity?
 
Yep.  When no one is coming through the door (Thanks, Joe !) you got to do something to stay awake.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:38pm

 kurtster wrote:
wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Sh!t-posting while at work?! Does your boss know about this disturbing lack of productivity?
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:00pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
I'm in a mood

Hit the bong bro!
 
wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Contrary to accusations made by haresfur, I do not work under the influence of anything.

Dealing with crazy people (present company excepted) is best done sober and as lucidly as possible.
R_P

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 3:10pm

 kurtster wrote:
I'm in a mood

Hit the bong bro!

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 3:00pm

 Proclivities wrote:
Yeah, I don't think I'd want to be in a room or garage filled with methane for very long, though I should have specified "relatively non-toxic".

I won't judge but if you are going to spend the night with a cow, get a hotel
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 1:51pm

 kurtster wrote:

Methane exposure, particularly when experienced in high concentrations, can lead to methane poisoning. While it is considered relatively non-toxic,

its primary threat is that it functions as an asphyxiant, similar to the threat posed by carbon monoxide exposure.
Yeah, I don't think I'd want to be in a room or garage filled with methane for very long, though I should have specified "relatively non-toxic".
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 1:06pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Well, I've seen no citation where either of them actually said that in those exact words.  Cows produce methane which is non-toxic to humans, carbon dioxide is toxic - so the "garage' experiment is not a valid test.  Pollution and poisonous fumes are not the same things.  Closer to what they (and others) have said is that methane released worldwide by cows is estimated to be comparable to the amount of pollution released by cars and trucks, and that methane is more potent when it comes to warming the planet.  

 
You're basically correct.  It was a silly / semi serious meme and I'm in a mood ...

That said ...

Risks of Methane Gas Poisoning Exposure

Methane exposure, particularly when experienced in high concentrations, can lead to methane poisoning. While it is considered relatively non-toxic,

its primary threat is that it functions as an asphyxiant, similar to the threat posed by carbon monoxide exposure.

When inhaled, it displaces ambient air, thus depriving the body of oxygen needed to breathe. While low concentrations are generally not harmful, higher concentrations lead to less oxygen availability and a range of symptoms may be experienced, including:

  • Rapid breathing
  • Increased heart rate
  • Clumsiness and dizziness
  • Decreased vision, especially in low lights
  • Euphoria
  • Decreased alertness
  • Loss of memory
  • Weakness
  • Fatigue
  • Emotional responses
  • Nausea and vomiting
  • Fainting and collapse
  • Convulsions
  • Coma
  • Death

Symptoms will become more severe as the concentration of methane increases, and the period of exposure becomes more prolonged. Mild exposure over a period of days or weeks can often show relatively few physical symptoms, but still, have a dramatic impact on overall mental health. Long-term effects can include lasting cardiovascular, respiratory, and neurological problems. Those who have been exposed are also at an increased risk of developing memory loss, depression, epilepsy, claustrophobia, and heart problems. 

Symptoms also onset and escalate more quickly when physical exertion increases (due to the increased oxygen needs of the body during physical activity). Prolonged deprivation of oxygen that can occur with methane gas poisoning can also cause permanent damage to the brain and the heart.

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