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William

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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 7:56am

 Phillip_Scanlan wrote:
Hi Bill.  First, congratulations on your great RP App for caching hours of music.  Just what I need for my hour long commute to and from work, patched into my car stereo.   I have noticed one slight bug.   There is frequently a short (less than one second) break of silence near the end of most songs.   Not a big problem, only slightly annoying.   I am using an I5 with all the latest updates and using RP App version 5.1 (809).   Is there anything I need to do, or is it just a bug that might get fixed in a future App upgrade?   Keep up the great work!   Cheers.   Long time RP Supporter.

 
Haven't heard about that one.  Try deleting the app & reinstalling it from the App Store.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 2:05am

Hi Bill.  First, congratulations on your great RP App for caching hours of music.  Just what I need for my hour long commute to and from work, patched into my car stereo.   I have noticed one slight bug.   There is frequently a short (less than one second) break of silence near the end of most songs.   Not a big problem, only slightly annoying.   I am using an I5 with all the latest updates and using RP App version 5.1 (809).   Is there anything I need to do, or is it just a bug that might get fixed in a future App upgrade?   Keep up the great work!   Cheers.   Long time RP Supporter.
latrippa

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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 12:33am

I only want to thank for the new cache/play without network connectivity functionality, it's great.
I can cache RP content at home/work and listen in my car while travelling.
Thanks! 
William

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Posted: Jan 20, 2015 - 7:38am

 notftpdoug wrote:
Hmmmmm

Ok then...so if I have NO Wifi, (or, for experiment sake I just turn OFF the WIFI on my phone) the app will play from the cache (as long as I have the *Cell Data* checkbox unchecked)

But now Im confused again, bc the other day I filled the cache and it said 12hrs.....now atm, some days later, it says 0hrs 0 mins.

Apparently now I have no cache, even though I havent used it since I filled it.
????????? 

 
The cache will remain available indefinitely as long as you aren't connected to a network (ie:  the 'Cell Data' box is unchecked & you're not connected to a WiFi network).
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Posted: Jan 20, 2015 - 6:06am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Bill corrected me on that... it's now supposed to allow you to store the cache for later playback (but maybe that's not the default and you have to check a box?)

 
I'll have to look it over.  I haven't used the cache function lately.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jan 20, 2015 - 6:05am

 Proclivities wrote:

I believe the cache will clear out after 12 hours - whether played or not.

 
Bill corrected me on that... it's now supposed to allow you to store the cache for later playback (but maybe that's not the default and you have to check a box?)
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Posted: Jan 20, 2015 - 5:46am

 notftpdoug wrote:
Hmmmmm

Ok then...so if I have NO Wifi, (or, for experiment sake I just turn OFF the WIFI on my phone) the app will play from the cache (as long as I have the *Cell Data* checkbox unchecked)

But now Im confused again, bc the other day I filled the cache and it said 12hrs.....now atm, some days later, it says 0hrs 0 mins.

Apparently now I have no cache, even though I havent used it since I filled it.
????????? 

 
I believe the cache will clear out after 12 hours - whether played or not.
notftpdoug

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Posted: Jan 19, 2015 - 6:25pm

Hmmmmm

Ok then...so if I have NO Wifi, (or, for experiment sake I just turn OFF the WIFI on my phone) the app will play from the cache (as long as I have the *Cell Data* checkbox unchecked)

But now Im confused again, bc the other day I filled the cache and it said 12hrs.....now atm, some days later, it says 0hrs 0 mins.

Apparently now I have no cache, even though I havent used it since I filled it.
????????? 
haresfur

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Posted: Jan 19, 2015 - 3:34pm

 BillG wrote:

I'm not familiar with Tasker.  Might work if it can simulate a click on the 'Fill & Refresh Cache' option in our app settings, otherwise no. We don't have any way set up for the app to receive external input.

 
Can you make it so the cache only fills with sets that don't have any U2? {#Wink}
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Posted: Jan 19, 2015 - 2:15pm

FYI, The app just won't work for me. I've uninstalled and re-installed several times. It looks good, but when I hit play (or autostart), it displays the latest song in the playlist, then shows "commercial free listener supported radio", Then the next several songs in quick succession (about 10-15 seconds each), then goes silent. It does give me a nice psychic feeling for knowing the next few songs though.

Sprint, Moto X, app ver 3.1.4.gp 
William

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Posted: Jan 19, 2015 - 2:07pm

 Alucard wrote:
Is there some way for me to automatically fill the cache at 8 AM M-F, if I'm connected to wifi?
I have Tasker and am rooted and am not averse to using them.

 
I'm not familiar with Tasker.  Might work if it can simulate a click on the 'Fill & Refresh Cache' option in our app settings, otherwise no. We don't have any way set up for the app to receive external input.
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Posted: Jan 19, 2015 - 11:19am

Is there some way for me to automatically fill the cache at 8 AM M-F, if I'm connected to wifi?
I have Tasker and am rooted and am not averse to using them.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2015 - 6:07am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

{#Zip-lip} Okay then!

I'm gonna have to get one a these here smart telephones someday.

 
Or you could keep an under-educated phone for making phone calls and buy an Android tablet for all that other stuff.
Btravelen

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Posted: Jan 17, 2015 - 12:03pm

 Alexandra wrote:

 
I just figure one day we'll be assimilated. It won't be a choice.

 
True dat .. The junk they're offering in the 'dumb phone' market doesn't last too long. The hardware in most every smartphone is noticeably higher quality..
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Posted: Jan 15, 2015 - 4:28pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

{#Zip-lip} Okay then!

I'm gonna have to get one a these here smart telephones someday.

 
 
I just figure one day we'll be assimilated. It won't be a choice.
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Posted: Jan 15, 2015 - 4:21pm

 BillG wrote:

That was the initial behavior of the iOS app, but now both will let you cache RP for later offline playback.

 
{#Zip-lip} Okay then!

I'm gonna have to get one a these here smart telephones someday.
William

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Posted: Jan 15, 2015 - 3:59pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Scott's disclaimer: I do not use this feature because I have a flip-phone.

The cache is *not* a time-shifting feature. It loads up to 12 hours of music but always attempts to remain in sync with the RP stream, so that when you go from a wifi zone to a no-signal zone, the music doesn't stop. Once you're back on a network, it fills the cache again but no matter what, what you're hearing will always be in sync with the live stream (or will actually be the live stream)...

12 hours after filling the cache, it will be empty again, whether you listen for 12 hours, 0 hours, or stop and start. As I understand it. 

 
That was the initial behavior of the iOS app, but now both will let you cache RP for later offline playback.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jan 14, 2015 - 9:32pm

 notftpdoug wrote:


***UPDATE....the caching process seems to be working in order, but my phone is playing the same stream as my laptop so it is obv NOT playing from the cache, When I get to a place with no wifi (like work) how do I play from cache?

 
Scott's disclaimer: I do not use this feature because I have a flip-phone.

The cache is *not* a time-shifting feature. It loads up to 12 hours of music but always attempts to remain in sync with the RP stream, so that when you go from a wifi zone to a no-signal zone, the music doesn't stop. Once you're back on a network, it fills the cache again but no matter what, what you're hearing will always be in sync with the live stream (or will actually be the live stream)...

12 hours after filling the cache, it will be empty again, whether you listen for 12 hours, 0 hours, or stop and start. As I understand it. 
notftpdoug

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Posted: Jan 14, 2015 - 6:42pm

Trying to organize the download feature for play later.

I SET my *WIFI Cache Length* to 12hrs, then clicked *Fill and Refresh Cache* 

this combination seemed to set the app in motion :)

I went ahead and unchecked *Disable to block streaming over cell networks* as a precaution.

Now Im confused how to go forward???

(a) once the cache fills then when I press PLAY it just plays from the cache NOT in RT?
(b) do I have to keep manually refilling the cache or does it auto fill when I am on WIFI?
(c) when I am using this cache option how do I play RP in real-time?

Thanks for the help. 

***UPDATE....the caching process seems to be working in order, but my phone is playing the same stream as my laptop so it is obv NOT playing from the cache, When I get to a place with no wifi (like work) how do I play from cache?
William

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Posted: Jan 13, 2015 - 6:07pm

 PFM wrote:

Thanks Bill. On another note it's a bit disconcerting for you to periodically remind me that you know I'm "listening to RP using the Android App" (I can't find the looking in my rear view mirror emoticon)

 
Hah! 
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