David Wallace-Wells: Three years ago, in March 2020, you and many others warned that Covid could result in as many as 100,000 or 200,000 American deaths, making the case for quite drastic interventions in the way we lived our daily lives. At the time, you thought âworst-case scenariosâ of more than a million deaths were quite unlikely. Now here we are, three years later, and, having done quite a lot to try to stop the spread of the virus, we have passed 1.1 million deaths. What went wrong?
Anthony Fauci: Something clearly went wrong. And I donât know exactly what it was. But the reason we know it went wrong is that we are the richest country in the world, and on a per-capita basis weâve done worse than virtually all other countries.1 And thereâs no reason that a rich country like ours has to have 1.1 million deaths. Unacceptable.
It never bothered me, just puzzled me sometimes. I've accidentally left a mask on a few times and started driving, but realized it once my glasses started fogging up - which isn't good while driving.
that was the only irritation i had when wearing a mask.
I've done it. Short trip, can't be arsed to take it off, put it someplace, put it back on. I mean wearing a mask was no big deal so I don't know why seeing someone wear one when it wasn't strictly needed.would bother people
It never really bothered me, just puzzled me sometimes - like on highways or "outside-of-town" roads. I've accidentally left a mask on a few times and started driving, but realized it once my glasses started fogging up - which isn't especially desirable while driving.
...and if you had a seatbelt that easily snapped off when you left the car, then snapped back on...you would see a lot of folks walking around with seatbelts on.
I've done it. Short trip, can't be arsed to take it off, put it someplace, put it back on. I mean wearing a mask was no big deal so I don't know why seeing someone wear one when it wasn't strictly needed.would bother people
yeah. i live relatively close to 2 places i have to run errands to that are less than 2 minutes from each other. i've put it on when i left my house, stopped for first errand, got back in the car, stopped for second errand then got back in the car for home.
It was odd seeing people do that so often - puzzling really. I still see it sometimes. Maybe some people just forget about it or something.
I've done it. Short trip, can't be arsed to take it off, put it someplace, put it back on. I mean wearing a mask was no big deal so I don't know why seeing someone wear one when it wasn't strictly needed.would bother people
I have no idea how the fuck to read that graph but what does the department of energy have to do with determining the source? It is way out of their mandate.
It's somewhat important to note that "Lab Leak" and the more difficult to prove "bioweapon" are often conflated. It's understandable to think that someone studying the virus inadvertently brought their work home with them. Making the claim that it was intentional or engineered with ill intent (ha!) is still in the realm of conspiracy, IMO.
The market that this would have spread from was sanitized in like the first week of January 2020, so no proof will come from there; any thoughts that it was a lab leak are not balanced with studies of the market.
People were dying of *something* before the outbreak, the Wuhan scientists were turning over every stone to find the source of the virus. So if it was a "lab leak," it's still a virus that existed in caves and was probably responsible for several deaths in the last few months of 2019âso it seems likely that any "lab leak" OR "wet market infection" was just weeks ahead of the natural event (although that natural event would not have originated in Wuhan).
I have no idea how the fuck to read that graph but what does the department of energy have to do with determining the source? It is way out of their mandate.
I recall that early evidence re. the cleavage (probably posted it here and got backlash), and was bewildered about the "faith" in covid being natural...when there wasn't the full evidence that it was. ..or that a lab origin was completely debunked.
a couple of quick thoughts
iirc matt ridley pointed out very early that there was research shared with unc and wiv
similar work on similar strain of sars
he and alina chan have written a book and were on sam harris podcast speaking about this situation
if possible people should listen to it
and no this podcast isn't an exercise in bashing wiv or unc/us govt cooking up some bio weapon
they're simply and methodically looking at the available evidence and give likely scenarios
after listening it does seem more likely that it was an accidental leak from wiv
as for sachs, i'd like to see the evidence he has or what he has been privy to
could it be possible he has something? maybe
usually whenever he speaks, within three sentences you'll hear something akin to the "usa done it"
it's automatic...
