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R_P

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Posted: Jul 4, 2020 - 12:08pm

'Consigning his voters to sickness': Trump fuels culture war over masks
As some attack face coverings as an assault on freedom, some Trump allies have bowed to reality amid Covid-19’s spread
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Posted: Jul 4, 2020 - 9:35am

People literally died because the media was more interested in demonizing Donald Trump than getting the facts right.

Also -Hydroxychloroquine (aka  Plaquenil) sulfate (the full generic name) is no longer covered by patent protection.  There's at least four generic makers supplying it.  Cost per tab is ultra-low.

Those who claimed Trump's motivation in promoting the drug  was that he directly profited from its sale - and those people ought to apologize.  Of course all we'll ever hear is crickets.


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Posted: Jul 4, 2020 - 8:03am

brother in law is a health care worker in atl

fifty something, heavy

felt very tired, winded after stairs, slight fever but developed a cough

tested + for covid-19 and spent about 5 days in the hospital

released yesterday (yeah!) with oral meds and seems to be doing as well as can be expected

hoping he bounces back asap

{#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Jul 4, 2020 - 5:49am

so the mortality rate is what?   0.05% ?   And when they say" he died of covid "does that mean only covid? or covid with heart disease, diabetes, old age, COPD, etc.   What a drag.  
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Posted: Jul 4, 2020 - 3:13am

 Steely_D wrote:
This is very important. Please take the time to read through this rational and compelling post.

Why are COVID cases increasing while deaths are decreasing?

His summary:

The truth is simple, and horrifying. We are about to have dozens of NYCs around the country. The next 8 weeks are going to brutal, no matter what we do. ICUs overflowing, ventilators rationed, hundreds of thousands of deaths.



 
Yes.

It gets worse.  The CDC itself and some states are combining positive tests and those who test positive for the anti body when tested.  The positive antibody numbers go into the new active numbers.  Bad for policy making decisions at the very least as illustrated in SteelyD's article.

There is no solid data on anything.  Do not ever let your guard down, cuz this will not be over until it is.  

The CDC is lumping positive COVID-19 viral and antibody tests together. Here's why that's bad.

Combining these two signals makes the data difficult to interpret and could be misleading to the public, because the combined number does not reflect the rate of new infection (and the number of infectious people circulating) in their region, William Hanage, an epidemiology professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told The Atlantic. "Combining a test that is designed to detect current infection with a test that detects infection at some point in the past is just really confusing and muddies the water," he said.

In addition, people are most likely to receive a diagnostic test if they're suspected to be infected, meaning they're showing symptoms of the disease or have been in contact with an infected person. Antibody tests can be given to anyone, and because relatively few people are thought to have been infected with COVID-19 across the U.S., many antibody tests may come back negative. If combined with diagnostic test results, antibody test results could artificially lower the percentage of positive tests out of the total.

The percentage of positive diagnostic tests provides a sense of how much virus is currently circulating in a community, and if skewed, that warped statistic could wrongly influence public health policy decisions.



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Posted: Jul 4, 2020 - 12:44am



 Steely_D wrote:
This is very important. Please take the time to read through this rational and compelling post.

Why are COVID cases increasing while deaths are decreasing?

His summary:

The truth is simple, and horrifying. We are about to have dozens of NYCs around the country. The next 8 weeks are going to brutal, no matter what we do. ICUs overflowing, ventilators rationed, hundreds of thousands of deaths.




 

IOW - Say goodbye now? And heaven bless.
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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 10:13pm

Kimberly Guilfoyle, who is dating the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., tested positive for the novel coronavirus while in South Dakota.


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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 4:45pm

This is very important. Please take the time to read through this rational and compelling post.

Why are COVID cases increasing while deaths are decreasing?

His summary:

The truth is simple, and horrifying. We are about to have dozens of NYCs around the country. The next 8 weeks are going to brutal, no matter what we do. ICUs overflowing, ventilators rationed, hundreds of thousands of deaths.




BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 4:32pm

54,165 new cases today, so far.

Good luck, South Dakota.
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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 11:16am

'We don't live in a communist country!': battle over masks rages in Texas

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 4:36pm

"Wearing a face covering will help us to keep Texas open for business," Mr Abbott said, announcing the order.

After an initial warning, those who refuse will face a fine up to $250.

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 11:31am

Liar, Liar, Pence on Fire
On July 1, the European Union reopened its borders to 15 non-EU countries that have brought COVID-19 under control. The United States was not among them. This population-adjusted graph of new infections shows why:


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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 7:06am

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 7:00am



 cc_rider wrote:


 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.

 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.

 

Yes, pharmaceuticals are the cheapest form of healthcare. drug adherence is the best way to keep most people out of the ER/hospital.
Contrary to the headline, aggregate drug price inflation has only been about 2-3%, due in large part that over 80% of scripts are now generics, and reimbursement rate for drugs has been under pressure.
The issue is more to do with the convoluted supply chain, and how rebates, discounts flow from manufacturer to insured.
rgio

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 5:47am

FEB 10 - "Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away"

FEB 27 - "It's going to disappear.  One day, it's like a miracle, it will disappear"

MAR 6 - "You have to be calm.  It'll go away"

APR 29 - "It's going to go away, this is going to go away"

JUN 15 - "At some point this stuff goes away and it's going away"

JUN 17 - "It's fading away.  It's going to fade away".

JUN 18 - "And it is dying out.  The numbers are starting to get very good"

JUL 1 - “And I think we are going to be very good with the coronavirus,”...  “I think that at some point, that it’s going to sort of just disappear, I hope.”

Another Unwanted U.S. Record: 50,000 New Coronavirus Cases In 1 Day

The scariest part is that there are still 4 in 10 Americans who support him.  

Cue the Greenday....

EDIT: FYI - the entire EU with 440 million people, had fewer new cases yesterday than Arizona.  
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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:59pm



 R_P wrote:
 cc_rider wrote:
 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.
 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.
 
Where you might be gouged as well, unless you have excellent coverage...

 
Might? Practically guaranteed!
c.

R_P

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:41pm

 cc_rider wrote:
 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.
 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.
 
Where you might be gouged as well, unless you have excellent coverage...
cc_rider

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:33pm



 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.

 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.

R_P

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 11:16am

The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.

haresfur

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Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 7:04pm

Victorian Premier warns entire state could go back into lockdown as coronavirus cases continue to rise



"The message is really clear if you want to see these lockdowns eased … follow the rules, use common sense, don't pretend it's over."

And that's with 73 new cases yesterday. Can't imaging how US states are going to manage to get a handle on their trends with so many people ignoring the science.
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