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Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:35pm

 Steely_D wrote:

See who was attacking whom first. 

And, nothing I posted is invalidated. So you could find an obscure "news" YouTube with someone who says they know more than everyone else. Those sorts of things are a dime a dozen and completely irrelevant to contemporary medical care standards. Anyone can disagree with anything, but if they're right - their contentions are agreed with by their peers and the ideas are codified into medical literature, not on a site that also features household product reviews and anime. Again, no credible medical professional, or thoughtful layperson, gets their medical information from stuff like this.

Secondary issue: is there anyone - anyone - on RP who has ever changed their mind after watching something like this? It looks more like a desperate attempt to feed an ego ("Look what I know that you don't!") than anything that actually moves the thought needle in a different direction.

Lastly, you're right about me wasting my time trying to reason with you. But you understand my point. Have a good one.


good lord.  
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:25pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

If you're looking for a credible account of the covid/blood clot relationship I invite you to inspect this one.

Please note that it's from December of 2022.



Saw that back then. Yeah, I've got the Long Covid and have been watching to see how it's being figured out.
A buddy had emergency heart surgery after a valve rupture and my optometrist was out of work four months because of busted brain. We need a good reason that it's so heterogenous in presentation.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:23pm

If you're looking for a credible account of the covid/blood clot relationship I invite you to inspect this one.

Please note that it's from December of 2022.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:11pm

 Beaker wrote:
Also - thanks for telling me you don't understand memes ...

See who was attacking whom first. 

And, nothing I posted is invalidated. So you could find a "news" YouTube with someone who says they know more than everyone else. Those sorts of things are a dime a dozen and completely irrelevant to contemporary medical care standards. Note that this particular product is owned by the Sinclair group. According to Wiki: A 2019 study in the American Political Science Review found that "stations bought by Sinclair reduce coverage of local politics, increase national coverage and move the ideological tone of coverage in a conservative direction relative to other stations operating in the same market."<5><6> The company has been criticized by journalists and media analysts for requiring its stations to broadcast packaged video segments and its news anchors to read prepared scripts that contain pro-Trump editorial content, including warnings about purported "fake news" in mainstream media, while Trump has tweeted support for watching Sinclair over CNN and NBC.<7><8><9><10><11>

Anyone can spout their position on anything, but if they're right - their contentions are agreed with by their peers and the ideas are codified into medical literature, not on a site that also features household product reviews and anime. Again, no credible medical professional, or thoughtful layperson, gets their medical information from stuff like this.

Secondary issue: is there anyone - anyone - on RP who has ever changed their mind after watching something like this? It looks more like a desperate attempt to feed an ego ("Look what I know that you don't!") than anything that actually moves the thought needle in a different direction.

Lastly, you're right about me wasting my time trying to reason with you. But you understand my point. Have a good one.

(Edited to add some info about Sinclair)
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:48pm

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The plural of anecdote is not data.

You're sure investing a lot of time attacking a vid you couldn't bother to actually watch. 

Oh, I get it.  You're not attacking the vid.  You're attacking the messenger!
Your logical fallacy is ad hominem.  Same like so often around here.

The vid:


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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:31pm

 Beaker wrote:
Also - thanks for telling me you don't understand memes ...

Son, I read Dawkins where he coined the term when the book (The Selfish Gene - still have my copy) first came out. Memes and I are old, and friends, and now old friends.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:28pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I didn’t watch the vid. As I said, that’s not where I get information from. There’s no reason.
See, you could’ve figured it out from my post - but you couldn’t come to a conclusion, but you had an open mind, and you got a medical professional to tell you what’s the best right answer. That’s how it works.



If you had bothered to watch the vid, you would know it's ALL medical professionals presenting what they know - and their first hand experience.  But you be you.
Also - thanks for telling me you don't understand memes ...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:26pm

 islander wrote:


Just wait until he asks you to look at the weird mole on his neck.


I got one of those...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:20pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I didn’t watch the vid. As I said, that’s not where I get information from. There’s no reason.
See, you could’ve figured it out from my post - but you couldn’t come to a conclusion, but you had an open mind, and you got a medical professional to tell you what’s the best right answer. That’s how it works.




Just wait until he asks you to look at the weird mole on his neck.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:13pm

 Beaker wrote:

Tell me you didn't bother to watch the vid without telling me you didn't bother to watch the vid...


I didn’t watch the vid. As I said, that’s not where I get information from: a discredited "journalist" and a giant corporate mouthpiece. There’s no reason.
See, you could’ve figured it out from my post - but you couldn’t come to a conclusion, but you had an open mind, and you got a medical professional to tell you what’s the best right answer. That’s how it works.



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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:02pm

 Beaker wrote:

Tell me you didn't bother to watch the vid without telling me you didn't bother to watch the vid...


I'll tell you directly. and if you add SDs not watch, that's probably 40 or more minutes of real life not wasted on chaff.
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 12:13pm

 Steely_D wrote:

I don't get my medical information from Good Housekeeping, Oprah, or the folks who hope for eyeballs on the internet. I listen to the people who've spent their whole lives getting through college, med school, residency, training in their speciality, and have devoted their lives and careers to understanding a problem and helping people afflicted with it. Very very few of those people go on shows like that - because they're eccentric.

Follow whomever you want, but you'll find all kinds of dramatic misinformation out there. If you start with what you want to hear, you'll find plenty of people who want to use their big word gobbledygook to get you to watch and nod.

Worse, medicine isn't decided by The People. You don't get a say, or a vote. If it's a virus, no amount of hysteria makes an antibiotic work on it. No amount of "what if" makes a horse dewormer treat Covid. Sorry, but biology, immunology, medicinal care - they're not a democracy.

Tell me you didn't bother to watch the vid without telling me you didn't bother to watch the vid...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 11:58am

 Beaker wrote:

An important vid - the latest understanding of COVID vax injury and long-COVID.  


I don't get my medical information from Good Housekeeping, Oprah, or the folks who hope for eyeballs on the internet. I listen to the people who've spent their whole lives getting through college, med school, residency, training in their speciality, and have devoted their lives and careers to understanding a problem and helping people afflicted with it. Very very few of those people go on shows like that - because they're eccentric.

Follow whomever you want, but you'll find all kinds of dramatic misinformation out there. If you start with what you want to hear, you'll find plenty of people who want to use their big word gobbledygook to get you to watch and nod.

Worse for populists, medicine isn't decided by The People. You don't get a say, or a vote. If it's a virus, no amount of hysteria makes an antibiotic work on it. No amount of "what if" makes a horse dewormer treat Covid. Sorry, but biology, immunology, medicinal care - they're not a democracy.
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 11:46am

An important vid - the latest understanding of COVID vax injury and long-COVID.  Also - some important info & commentary on the new vax being offered this fall.  Watch the whole thing - and share.



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Posted: Aug 18, 2023 - 2:33pm


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Posted: Aug 2, 2023 - 4:22pm

Conservative Political Rhetoric Now Has an Official Body Count
The Journal of the American Medical Association published a damning report confirming that party affiliation in Ohio and Florida was a risk for dying of Covid-19.
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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 4:02pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


This is a synopsis of, and then an update to Breathless. That's an interesting book that came out not long ago.


BTW, if folks want to read the prelude to the Covid fiasco, the fantastic Randy Shilts book, "And the Band Played On" is very instructive. 


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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 11:28am

 R_P wrote:
The Ongoing Mystery of Covid’s Origin
We still don’t know how the pandemic started. Here's what we do know — and why it matters.
David Quammen


This is a synopsis of, and then an update to Breathless. That's an interesting book that came out not long ago.
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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 6:51am


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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 5:10am

 kurtster wrote:

I have had Paxlovid.  When my Mom, the wife and I all came down with I'm guessing due to when, the Omicron version.  Called my onc to advise of positive test and the protocol had just changed to using Paxlovid.  They overnighted it to me from the CCF's pharmacy.  Our GP called it in to our pharmacy the next day for P.  Don't remember what my Mom got.  Was fast acting and relatively mild throughout the usage.

Was very leery of another anti viral after having a horrible experience with Tamiflu.  Two days in, I felt like I wanted to crawl out of my skin and stopped it, STAT.  I will never use Tamiflu again.

Given the need, I would not hesitate to take Paxlovid again.


i got covid in may 2022, i think that means it was the omicron version too? not sure. anyway, immediately was given paxlovid by my doc and i had no side effects and i think it wiped out everything pretty quickly. i don't even remember feeling too awful outside of slight fever, slight cough, elevated fatigue prior to being diagnosed. i do remember the fatigue lasted about 3 days into being diagnosed (while being on paxlovid within a day) but i don't think it took me too long to bounce back. i was grateful for it and would also take it again if needed.

i don't think i'll be getting more boosters, though, if that's still a thing.

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