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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 7:54pm



 haresfur wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Hate to say it, but keeping  the elderly away from large groups is a solid course of action.  These are the folks that will most likely get decimated if the virus gets into their population groups.  

Nursing homes, retirement communities, etc have got to be on the alert - and banning or minimizing visitors must be a high priority until this thing passes.  And the very last place we want the elderly right now is in the clutches of hospital wards where the greatest source of infections is the staff - and nurses - themselves.  MRSA will look like a rank amateur if this thing invades hospital wards.

And with the elderly mostly under lock and key, there will be fewer of them competing with the rest of us as we buy out the stores to hoard TP and every disinfectant we can find - so we can fill our cellars, attics and rafters full.  And profit enormously as we sell it online or out of our trunks, of course.



https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/vancouver-craigslist-deals-coronavirus-panic-2138342


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/heres-why-people-are-panic-buying-and-stockpiling-toilet-paper.html

 

I worry because of the many elderly in care facilities who depend on relatives visiting and advocating for them to receive proper care. 
 

Yes.  Good point.  I don't see any replacement or substitute for that.

I worry about my friends who work with seniors in the facilities / retirement communities.  If deaths accelerate in their work places due to coronavirus, how well will these people cope?
black321

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 7:33pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

I've gone from being a bit put out about our cancelled trip to New Orleans, to being Of COURSE they should cancel it. 

I hope our state school system gets on board soon. My boss is downright angry about all the hubbub. Still in the making-fun-of-people-buying-toilet-paper phase.
 

Learning curve for this one is steep...or nonexistant
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 7:01pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I've gone from being a bit put out about our cancelled trip to New Orleans, to being Of COURSE they should cancel it. 

I hope our state school system gets on board soon. My boss is downright angry about all the hubbub. Still in the making-fun-of-people-buying-toilet-paper phase.
 

You can easily work from home, yes?
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 6:59pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

I've gone from being a bit put out about our cancelled trip to New Orleans, to being Of COURSE they should cancel it. 

I hope our state school system gets on board soon. My boss is downright angry about all the hubbub. Still in the making-fun-of-people-buying-toilet-paper phase.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 6:44pm

NBA suspends season over the coronavirus
haresfur

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 6:38pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
Hate to say it, but keeping  the elderly away from large groups is a solid course of action.  These are the folks that will most likely get decimated if the virus gets into their population groups.  

Nursing homes, retirement communities, etc have got to be on the alert - and banning or minimizing visitors must be a high priority until this thing passes.  And the very last place we want the elderly right now is in the clutches of hospital wards where the greatest source of infections is the staff - and nurses - themselves.  MRSA will look like a rank amateur if this thing invades hospital wards.

And with the elderly mostly under lock and key, there will be fewer of them competing with the rest of us as we buy out the stores to hoard TP and every disinfectant we can find - so we can fill our cellars, attics and rafters full.  And profit enormously as we sell it online or out of our trunks, of course.



https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/vancouver-craigslist-deals-coronavirus-panic-2138342


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/heres-why-people-are-panic-buying-and-stockpiling-toilet-paper.html

 

I worry because of the many elderly in care facilities who depend on relatives visiting and advocating for them to receive proper care. 
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 5:08pm

Hate to say it, but keeping  the elderly away from large groups is a solid course of action.  These are the folks that will most likely get decimated if the virus gets into their population groups.  

Nursing homes, retirement communities, etc have got to be on the alert - and banning or minimizing visitors must be a high priority until this thing passes.  And the very last place we want the elderly right now is in the clutches of hospital wards where the greatest source of infections is the staff - and nurses - themselves.  MRSA will look like a rank amateur if this thing invades hospital wards.

And with the elderly mostly under lock and key, there will be fewer of them competing with the rest of us as we buy out the stores to hoard TP and every disinfectant we can find - so we can fill our cellars, attics and rafters full.  And profit enormously as we sell it online or out of our trunks, of course.



https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/vancouver-craigslist-deals-coronavirus-panic-2138342


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/heres-why-people-are-panic-buying-and-stockpiling-toilet-paper.html

Isabeau

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 12:26pm

I live in the area where 100+ cruise passengers have been sent to A.F.B. for testing and quarantine.

1. Many were not tested before leaving CA
2. If they test positive, they are being transported to local hospitals.
3.  There aren't enough tests for the immediate medical community.
4.  There is not enough protective gear and equipment for local healthcare professionals.


My Mother is 82. As a widow of a disabled vet, she receives medical care through Military TriCare. She is now at a needed doctor's appointment, at the very base where the quarantine is currently underway.

Yesterday, Gov. Greg Abbott stated that the head of H.H.S. assured him that anyone that is not a Texan won't be released into the community. 



You're damn right I'm worried.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:56am



 Red_Dragon wrote:
I'm thinking they must be doing something right in Taiwan - only 48 cases so far.
 

Did. They DID something right before it reached them. For the rest of us, that ship has sailed and we're now faced with mitigation.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:52am

I'm thinking they must be doing something right in Taiwan - only 48 cases so far.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:34am

In case you wanted to see what's possible when you combine planning, leadership, and facts/data, take a look at the steps taken and the results in Taiwan

Response to COVID-19 in Taiwan

Take a look at the supplement and the details of the steps taken. 
R_P

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:28am

 kurtster wrote:
This conversation reminds me a bit of all the Y2K stuff.
 
If people work as hard and as smart as they did (and that included me working on New Year's Eve 31 Dec 1999-1 Jan 2000) in the years leading up to Y2K to prevent major issues (by screening for possible problem areas, offering best practices, remedies, etc.)...
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:27am



 BillG wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 
Thanks for posting that, Scott.  Nothing beats actual science when it comes to truly clarifying things. 
 

Numbers and Charts! 

I need to get off the internet because if I hear one more person equate "reasonable precautions" with "panic," I'm going to pick up a crowbar and start swinging.
William

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:17am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 
Thanks for posting that, Scott.  Nothing beats actual science when it comes to truly clarifying things. 
R_P

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:11am

WHO declares coronavirus pandemic
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 10:57am

AFW has her State Speech Meet starting tomorrow. I asked locally if it was going to be suspended and the coach said it hasn't been canceled and that the WHSAA site has a link to CDC's info page for some reassurance and what you can do. What that page says, right at the top: The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.

So I said yeah but that doesn't protect the general population. She said one child has been pulled and that I can pull AFW and, now, she's a friend so I don't want to get huffy but it's not about my kid. It's never about "me." The system needs to get with the program.


Cancel Everything

Social distancing is the only way to stop the coronavirus. We must start immediately.


 
sirdroseph

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 9:15am

 black321 wrote:
Out of an abundance of caution, just cancelled my flight/trip to west coast. 
Can't convince my 85 y.o. dad to do the same. 
 
Oh man, he is at risk.  In all seriousness it is our old folks who do need to take extra precaution even to the point of virtual quarantine.{#Pray}
black321

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 9:10am

Out of an abundance of caution, just cancelled my flight/trip to west coast. 
Can't convince my 85 y.o. dad to do the same. 
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 8:49am

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca 

Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now


When you’re done reading the article, this is what you’ll take away:

The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.

As a politician, community leader or business leader, you have the power and the responsibility to prevent this.

You might have fears today: What if I overreact? Will people laugh at me? Will they be angry at me? Will I look stupid? Won’t it be better to wait for others to take steps first? Will I hurt the economy too much?

But in 2–4 weeks, when the entire world is in lockdown, when the few precious days of social distancing you will have enabled will have saved lives, people won’t criticize you anymore: They will thank you for making the right decision.

Ok, let’s do this.



Every flat line is a Chinese region with coronavirus cases. Each one had the potential to become exponential, but thanks to the measures happening just at the end of January, all of them stopped the virus before it could spread.

Meanwhile, South Korea, Italy and Iran had a full month to learn, but didn’t. They started the same exponential growth of Hubei and passed every Chinese region before the end of February.



Guess what the US line looks like...



KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 6:59am



 kurtster wrote:


This conversation reminds me a bit of all the Y2K stuff.
 
Another wasted panic situation.

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