Sorry, but been burnt once. NZ installed quotas early on and I lived in blissful ignorance for ten years thinking we had well-managed fish stocks. Turned out it was bullshit. This is not about virtue signalling (which you have flagged up with me before - duly noted) but a change in consumer mindset. We just have to stop eating wild fish. Period. And this includes farmed fish fed on wild fish. Everything else is just whitewash.
Well then, why not reform those quota fisheries that are in your opinion failing?
Is social cooperation that difficult in New Zealand? Do your regard people in New Zealand and around the world as culturally deficient, i.e., incapable of solving the simplest of social dilemmas?
That's not the point. Every fish you take out of an already heavily stressed environment, just adds to the stress on that environment. It is time we learned to leave them well alone (which would be to solve the social dilemma, which, being social, is never simple), at least until they start to resemble something normal, which at last count, none of the marine environments are close to.
Sorry, but been burnt once. NZ installed quotas early on and I lived in blissful ignorance for ten years thinking we had well-managed fish stocks. Turned out it was bullshit. This is not about virtue signalling (which you have flagged up with me before - duly noted) but a change in consumer mindset. We just have to stop eating wild fish. Period. And this includes farmed fish fed on wild fish. Everything else is just whitewash.
Well then, why not reform those quota fisheries that are in your opinion failing?
Is social cooperation that difficult in New Zealand? Do your regard people in New Zealand and around the world as culturally deficient, i.e., incapable of solving the simplest of social dilemmas?
Sorry, but been burnt once. NZ installed quotas early on and I lived in blissful ignorance for ten years thinking we had well-managed fish stocks. Turned out it was bullshit. This is not about virtue signalling (which you have flagged up with me before - duly noted) but a change in consumer mindset. We just have to stop eating wild fish. Period. And this includes farmed fish fed on wild fish. Everything else is just whitewash.
i'll eat lab grown fish or powdered fish-like protein pills (same for other animal like proteins)
We stopped eating any saltwater fish (including aqua-culture) last year. There has to be an immediate global moratorium on fishing to give to oceans time to recover (and even that might not be enough).
No.
There has to be a continuing move to tradeable quota fisheries from open access chaos. Moratoria are great for heart-warming virtue signalling but it will not work.
For an example of well managed international quota fishery, see the Pacific Halibut fishery.
Sorry, but been burnt once. NZ installed quotas early on and I lived in blissful ignorance for ten years thinking we had well-managed fish stocks. Turned out it was bullshit. This is not about virtue signalling (which you have flagged up with me before - duly noted) but a change in consumer mindset. We just have to stop eating wild fish. Period. And this includes farmed fish fed on wild fish. Everything else is just whitewash.
We stopped eating any saltwater fish (including aqua-culture) last year. There has to be an immediate global moratorium on fishing to give to oceans time to recover (and even that might not be enough).
No.
There has to be a continuing move to tradeable quota fisheries from open access chaos. Moratoria are great for heart-warming virtue signalling but it will not work.
For an example of well managed international quota fishery, see the Pacific Halibut fishery.
We stopped eating any saltwater fish (including aqua-culture) last year. There has to be an immediate global moratorium on fishing to give to oceans time to recover (and even that might not be enough).
