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Posted: Nov 1, 2023 - 5:29am

 kurtster wrote:
Ford Cuts EV Investment After Losing $36,000 On Every EV Sold In Q3

This means that Ford lost around $36,000 for every electric vehicle it sold in the quarter, surpassing its estimated $32,350 loss per EV in the second quarter. For the entire year, the carmaker expects a full-year loss of $4.5 billion for its EV unit.
...
As a consequence of "appropriately balancing the pace of EV investment with the pace of customer demand," the company said it is scaling back about $12 billion in planned EV investments.


What's in that loss? Depreciation of prior capex? 1x items? I'm not doubting that they lost $, but so does every startup...and EVs are still in the startup phase.
Demand is softer than expected putting downward pressure on price. Management also said:
"We also remain bullish on Model e and our EV future, but clearly, the market is a moving target. I'm optimistic because customers are smart and are rational, and for many of them, EVs are a great choice."
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Posted: Nov 1, 2023 - 12:39am

Ford Cuts EV Investment After Losing $36,000 On Every EV Sold In Q3

This means that Ford lost around $36,000 for every electric vehicle it sold in the quarter, surpassing its estimated $32,350 loss per EV in the second quarter. For the entire year, the carmaker expects a full-year loss of $4.5 billion for its EV unit.
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As a consequence of "appropriately balancing the pace of EV investment with the pace of customer demand," the company said it is scaling back about $12 billion in planned EV investments.
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Posted: Oct 31, 2023 - 1:51pm

 R_P wrote:

Oh noes, subsidies!


Boy, that clean energy costs soooo much....

The staying power of fossil fuel subsidies

That number is bigger than just vehicles obviously, but anyone arguing that we can't afford to abandon fossil fuels because of the cost isn't paying attention.



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Posted: Oct 31, 2023 - 1:40pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
lol Texas Public Policy Foundation. Now do gasoline! Figure in the costs of eminent domain for pipelines and rail transport, keeping BLM lands "public" so they can be drilled, pollution cleanup shucked off onto the public, etc. etc.

Oh noes, subsidies!

Also, denier crock:
In October 2017, the White House announced that President Donald Trump had selected Kathleen Hartnett White to serve as chair of the Council on Environmental Quality. White is a fellow at TPPF. A climate change denier, White has said that climate change does not exist and that United Nations findings on climate change are "not validated and politically corrupt."<22><23> She has argued that carbon dioxide levels are good for life on Earth, that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, and that "fossil fuels dissolved the economic justification for slavery."<24> In February 2018, the White House confirmed their intention to withdraw their nomination of Hartnett White as a senior advisor on environmental policy.<25><26>
Crockster fare.

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Posted: Oct 31, 2023 - 1:25pm

 kurtster wrote:

lol Texas Public Policy Foundation. Now do gasoline! Figure in the costs of eminent domain for pipelines and rail transport, keeping BLM lands "public" so they can be drilled, pollution cleanup shucked off onto the public, etc. etc.
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Posted: Oct 31, 2023 - 1:19pm

'Overcharged': Major Study Shows True Cost of Owning an EV, 'Fueling' Equal to $17.33 Per Gallon
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Posted: Oct 31, 2023 - 10:39am

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Posted: Oct 23, 2023 - 12:26pm

 islander wrote:


A hangnail.  As you get more people understanding the system, your bog standard guy might have made the 2nd choice on a lot of the middle of the road voters lists too. chicken/egg - no too few people participate in the primaries because no one likes the candidates. We need more engagement, but everyone hates the system so they don't engage. Half the people don't get their preferred guy, so they think the system sucks (they are right), but if 65% of the people got their first or second choice...  It's not a perfect (or even great) system, but what we have now is a cancer that's killing us.


I meant to emphasize that the two MAGA candidates knocked each other out, allowing a guy in that 2/3 of Wyoming GOP voters did not support. AND YET the party rails against ranked choice.
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Posted: Oct 23, 2023 - 11:26am

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Both teams like to fantasize that they'll always be able to get to 50% and then they do whatever it takes to get there, and once they have, they don't need to form any alliances, they can just steamroll their way around. So they fight it.

Our current governor won with 35% of the primary vote... he's a bog-standard republican, but he had two MAGAs* fighting it out and they each took 30%. So Ranked Choice would have put one of the ugh candidates in. 

*Of those, one is now a US Representative, and the other is dead. Comme çi, comme ça.



A hangnail.  As you get more people understanding the system, your bog standard guy might have made the 2nd choice on a lot of the middle of the road voters lists too. chicken/egg - no too few people participate in the primaries because no one likes the candidates. We need more engagement, but everyone hates the system so they don't engage. Half the people don't get their preferred guy, so they think the system sucks (they are right), but if 65% of the people got their first or second choice...  It's not a perfect (or even great) system, but what we have now is a cancer that's killing us.
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Posted: Oct 23, 2023 - 10:30am

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I do not understand the resistance to this idea. Even with the issues that are legitimate, it is SOOOOOO much better than the status quo. It's like if Cancer had an obvious cure, but 1 out of 50 people get a hangnail when they use it so everyone just keeps on going with cancer, because hangnails suck right?


Both teams like to fantasize that they'll always be able to get to 50% and then they do whatever it takes to get there, and once they have, they don't need to form any alliances, they can just steamroll their way around. So they fight it.

Our current governor won with 35% of the primary vote... he's a bog-standard republican, but he had two MAGAs* fighting it out and they each took 30%. So Ranked Choice would have put one of the ugh candidates in. 

*Of those, one is now a US Representative, and the other is dead. Comme çi, comme ça.

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Posted: Oct 23, 2023 - 9:37am

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Yeah, that's why rank-choice voting is more fairer...er


I do not understand the resistance to this idea. Even with the issues that are legitimate, it is SOOOOOO much better than the status quo. It's like if Cancer had an obvious cure, but 1 out of 50 people get a hangnail when they use it so everyone just keeps on going with cancer, because hangnails suck right?
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Posted: Oct 23, 2023 - 9:16am

Sen. Menendez returns to New York court to enter plea to new conspiracy charge
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Posted: Aug 3, 2023 - 5:01pm

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Biden world moves to stave off Cornel West and No Labels threat
Democrats fear repeating history from third-party challengers threatening Biden’s 2024 bid.


Yeah, that's why rank-choice voting is more fairer...er
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Posted: Aug 3, 2023 - 4:52pm

Biden world moves to stave off Cornel West and No Labels threat
Democrats fear repeating history from third-party challengers threatening Biden’s 2024 bid.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2023 - 3:43pm

 I - slander wrote:

 kurtster wrote:

So please tell me why this is hypocritical:
That part is just jerky. It shows lack of empathy. It's especially notable from you, a person who has significant health issues that have impacted their life, but manages it well with assistance from others and accommodations from their place of employment. 

 

Oh, so in your opinion ...  A lack of empathy ?  It was a good news / bad news thing.  The bad news was that he had been hospitalized, the good news (for people who don't like his political positions) was the he is not able to vote since he cannot be present when it is time to vote.

Are you going to pretend that no one from your side of the aisle thinks the same about McConnell ?  The situations are identical.  Do you have any empathy for good old Mitch ?  I don't.  But I wish, and have said, that McConnell should have left when Boehner did.  I'm no fanboy of Mitch.


Here's the hypocritical part:
 kurtster wrote:

He should have withdrawn his candidacy due to his medical conditions, for his own good, not to mention the good of the people of Pennsylvania.

This is likely not a position you would take for a Republican. *

The disingenuous part is where you act like you don't know this already and expect other people to explain it to you in detail even though you don't really care.

 

* Say's who ?  You ?  You know this for a fact or are you just speculating because you think you know me so well ?  Or are you just lumping me in with other republican / conservative types in general ?

You then look up little factoids thinking that because you don't know, then neither do I.  I call that projection.
. But he can still fulfill a majority of his job, and appears to be doing so: 

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/john-fetterman-hospitalized-depression-senate-bills-constituent-services-20230306.html
https://www.inquirer.com/polit...

in 2012, Mark Kirk had a stroke (https://www.npr.org/2014/03/09/288108181/a-senators-long-and-patient-recovery-from-stroke
https://www.npr.org/2014/03/09...) so I'm sure you can point to where you are out here calling for his resignation right?  No, because he's on 'your team', and that's all you really care about.  

So pardon me, but I will continue to call you out on your hypocrisy and your disingenuousness as long as you continue to present it.  
 
 

I see.  Yes, I did know before I wrote my statement that the only thing affected was his ability to vote.  The / his Senate office continues to function as normal, constituents are still being served.  The only thing affected is his ability to vote.  Now if you had taken Civics, you would already know this and not have to look it up.  The Senate unlike the House under Pelosi did not allow remote voting and still does not.  Nor did the Senate require masking on the Floor during the pandemic as did the House under Pelosi.

So you have also insulted my intelligence based upon your own shortcomings. 

Then you double down and try to equate the event of a sitting Senator with someone running for office.  They are different situations, at least to me.  People get sick and fall ill.  It is when that matters as far as the point you are trying to make.  It is also a failed attempt of whataboutism.

I am against anyone with a debilitating medical condition that affects cognitive abilities running for office.  Rehab and a clear bill of health, then run for office.  You clearly have different standards on this, too, based upon your statements.

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You go through all this just to justify calling me an asshole. Well, if nothing else you have helped to prove the old axiom ... It takes one to know one ...

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Posted: Mar 13, 2023 - 11:44am

 Beaker wrote:

Ah.  I see nothing has changed.  Same old, same old.

Oh well.



I thought you were new around here. 
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Posted: Mar 13, 2023 - 8:47am

 Beaker wrote:
Ah.  I see nothing has changed.  Same old, same old. Oh well.
 
Not to make it exclusively personal but, I didn't say it was easy. You're going to pass from this world one day. We all are. Don't waste your time in vain. Change comes in the heart first. Let the chips fall where they may. Fear and its prodigy hatred are no match for courage, humility and mercy. Please consider it, all who hear this. {#Good-vibes}
Beaker

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Posted: Mar 13, 2023 - 8:16am

Ah.  I see nothing has changed.  Same old, same old.

Oh well.
islander

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Posted: Mar 13, 2023 - 5:45am

 kurtster wrote:

Well since you insist on keeping this going ...



< Sigh > sure, whatever.

 kurtster wrote:

So please tell me why this is hypocritical:


That part is just jerky. It shows lack of empathy. It's especially notable from you, a person who has significant health issues that have impacted their life, but manages it well with assistance from others and accommodations from their place of employment. 

Here's the hypocritical part:
 kurtster wrote:

He should have withdrawn his candidacy due to his medical conditions, for his own good, not to mention the good of the people of Pennsylvania.

This is likely not a position you would take for a Republican.  

The disingenuous part is where you act like you don't know this already and expect other people to explain it to you in detail even though you don't really care.

You're not an idiot. You've got some genuine grievances. But your anger is directed at the wrong places, and you actions are targeted at the wrong people. 


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Posted: Mar 12, 2023 - 7:42pm

 I - slander wrote:
You should take up soccer, that's a world class dive right there.
 
Well since you insist on keeping this going ...

 I - slander wrote:
 
Mr. would imply respect.   

...
So pardon me, but I will continue to call you out on your hypocrisy and your disingenuousness as long as you continue to present it.  
 
 
So please tell me why this is hypocritical:

 kurtster wrote:

And now he has taken up residence in Walter Reid being treated for depression.  The good news is that as long as he is there, he ain't voting on anything.
 

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