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islander

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Posted: Jan 1, 2017 - 11:30am
Steely_D wrote: I was thinking the same about having to keep seeing the RP3 Beta Player near the top of the RAFT. Might have to give up on the forum. The counting with pictures thing has gotten out of hand too. I thought it would run its course, but it's like there is no end to it. At least that one is balanced - half even, half odd, but the primes are severely underrepresented.

kurtster

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Location: where fear is not a virtue
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Posted: Jan 1, 2017 - 11:22am

Steely_D wrote:

Since you and a few others post Trump supportive posts here, it's not "only" peeps who hate Trump. There's both sides. It's just that, like our nation, more people didn't want him than did.
And that's OK. It's not true that it has to be 50/50 pro/against.

The honest truth, without political spin, is that more people voted against Trump than for him.

How they get out of bed? The other option is to acquiesce, which is what Trump folks keep suggesting. "Shh, now. Nothing but dreams."
Instead, we're likely to see folks rise up to prevent the loss of their rights. Electing Trump will galvanize a dormant society into speaking out. You're going to hear a LOT more posts by people who refuse to be "devastated."

Not really. My last post in here was nearly two weeks ago. You could click on that or scroll back to it. And until buddy's thought was raised, tell me how many pro Trump posts or posters you see in here since my last post. I din't see a one.

I have given up all hope of any rational thought or discussion on him at any level here at RP. Tis why I quit posting in here and mostly anything political here. Why voluntarily get tarred and feathered ? I call out those who can't handle Trump's election and refuse to see it as legal as crybabies and get tagged for name calling. Calling those who call me a nazi, racist and worse, crybabies and getting called out for that ? I don't see anyone calling them out out for anything.

But I don't give a rat's ass anymore.

This is nothing but an anti Trump echo chamber in here and it has bothered someone enough who is anti Trump themselves to complain about it at some level.

That's how I see it. Its going to be a long 4 to 8 years and I expect long lines of jumpers forming at the Golden Gate. All the promises to leave the country by Trump haters is nothing but empty bullshit as usual. Poseurs.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 1, 2017 - 9:18am

kurtster wrote:

Kinda sad and ironic.

Only peeps posting in here are those who hate Trump or whose lives have been tragically devastated by his election. They're from your side of the ideology tracks.

I don't know how they get out of bed in the morning anymore, but that's another story ...

Since you and a few others post Trump supportive posts here, it's not "only" peeps who hate Trump. There's both sides. It's just that, like our nation, more people didn't want him than did.
And that's OK. It's not true that it has to be 50/50 pro/against.

The honest truth, without political spin, is that more people voted against Trump than for him.

How they get out of bed? The other option is to acquiesce, which is what Trump folks keep suggesting. "Shh, now. Nothing but dreams."
Instead, we're likely to see folks rise up to prevent the loss of their rights. Electing Trump will galvanize a dormant society into speaking out. You're going to hear a LOT more posts by people who refuse to be "devastated."

oldviolin

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Posted: Jan 1, 2017 - 7:29am
buddy wrote: If I have to see this thread at the top of the RAFT for the next 4 years, I'm going to have to stop coming to the Forum. Guess I'll know in a week or so. It's all a bit counter intuitive and deeply emotional. Psychology notwithstanding...

miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 1, 2017 - 7:19am

buddy wrote:

If I have to see this thread at the top of the RAFT for the next 4 years, I'm going to have to stop coming to the Forum. Guess I'll know in a week or so.

like other political threads this place has some partisan silliness

and considering all of the media conditioning it's about what you'd expect (i think)

don't let that dissuade you

the venting/steam will eventually subside and be replaced with legitimate discussion

we hope {#Lol}

happy new year {#Cheers}

ScottN

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Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 8:55pm

Steely_D wrote:

Here's an idea:

If we consider Trump to be 1) a businessman and 2) an egomaniac then...

Let's talk more about the idea of the financial viability of the County Healthcare system, the Workman's Comp system, and the VA Healthcare system. They're all money-sucking inefficient organizations.
And, Trump wants to take care of the Vets (as do we all). But he'd love to make a show of it.

If we approach a national healthcare system as a cost effective thing: it would immediately make the VA/Worker's Comp/County care all irrelevant AND no longer a taxpayer burden. Those funds could instead be part of the cost mitigation of fully insuring the nation. Call it TrumpCare, IDAF.

We appeal to the dealmaker, and the egomaniac, while actually improving the nation. When someone is severely ill, they aren't forced to keep working while on chemo just to retain their health insurance. Our Vets can get high quality care, without being sequestered into the inefficient VA system. We stop pouring money into the County ED system where they're merely providing clinic care to the uninsured -at an extraordinary cost to taxpayers.

It's conceivable that repealing Obamacare, and replacing it with a real national healthcare, could be a rational legacy for the Cheeto-in-Chief.

We can live in hope.

kurtster

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Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 8:34pm

buddy wrote:

If I have to see this thread at the top of the RAFT for the next 4 years, I'm going to have to stop coming to the Forum. Guess I'll know in a week or so.

olivertwist

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Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 5:37pm
Just a bit vindictive...

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 2:35pm
Here we go...

Steely_D

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Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 10:50am

Here's an idea:

If we consider Trump to be 1) a businessman and 2) an egomaniac then...

Let's talk more about the idea of the financial viability of the County Healthcare system, the Workman's Comp system, and the VA Healthcare system. They're all money-sucking inefficient organizations.
And, Trump wants to take care of the Vets (as do we all). But he'd love to make a show of it.

If we approach a national healthcare system as a cost effective thing: it would immediately make the VA/Worker's Comp/County care all irrelevant AND no longer a taxpayer burden. Those funds could instead be part of the cost mitigation of fully insuring the nation. Call it TrumpCare, IDAF.

We appeal to the dealmaker, and the egomaniac, while actually improving the nation. When someone is severely ill, they aren't forced to keep working while on chemo just to retain their health insurance. Our Vets can get high quality care, without being sequestered into the inefficient VA system. We stop pouring money into the County ED system where they're merely providing clinic care to the uninsured -at an extraordinary cost to taxpayers.

It's conceivable that repealing Obamacare, and replacing it with a real national healthcare, could be a rational legacy for the Cheeto-in-Chief.

haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
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Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 11:30pm
buddy wrote: If I have to see this thread at the top of the RAFT for the next 4 years, I'm going to have to stop coming to the Forum. Guess I'll know in a week or so. Resist the click

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 7:03pm

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 6:39pm
I am again genuinely afraid of a nuclear holocaust.

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 6:36pm

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 6:26pm
Donald Trump’s War Against Facts

haresfur

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Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 5:07pm

Isabeau wrote:

Its the Republican Primary Directive: Prevent the Donor Class or Corporations from having to pay any Taxes.

Yet no one has the stones to speak publicly of what Pay$ for that bloated MIC and support for 'selective' religious nation states...

Here's the thing. Even if you believe in Reaganomics (which I don't) it is guaranteed to become less effective the more you push it. You can't reduce the tax rate below 0 so they are running out of tax to cut. Supply side economics still needs demand to work, and yo u can't sustain demand when you are reducing real income for the lower and middle classes.

The best way to increase investment is to do what Australia does and require employers to put 10% of employees salary into the employee's SuperFund (similar to a 401 K). That's a lot of investment and a lot of long-term security for workers. However, you also need to manage the economy for stability so that people don't get screwed by the business class inducing and taking advantage of extreme fluctuations.

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 30, 2016 - 4:08pm
This guy gets more unbelievable by the day.

Isabeau

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Posted: Dec 28, 2016 - 12:39pm

Skydog wrote:

Kudlow's answer to everything is tax cuts, I am sick of hearing that crap.
Over the last 15 years I have heard economists and Wall Street brokers and bankers say that every link in the chain for ecomonic growth is okay except one, and that is consumer buying power.
Americans haven't gotten a raise since the 1990's and people like Kudlow thinks tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations will solve everything.
Let's say I own a business and am doing fine, if Trump gives me a tax break am I going to hire more people? No, they won't be needed because everyday people haven't got anything extra so they won't be spending more, and all these companies will just pocket the tax break.
Or they will do what they have been doing for the last 15 years and buy back their own stock and do more mergers and acquistions.
Trump and the GOP want to turn the other 49 states into Kansas, check them out, Kansas gave tax breaks to business and rich folks thinking that it will bring economic growth but they found out all you get is deficits.
Put the money into the peoples hands and then let the companies compete for it,

Skydog

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Posted: Dec 28, 2016 - 10:58am

Red_Dragon wrote:

Larry Kudlow, infamous voodoo economist and leading candidate to to head the Trump Administration's Council of Economic Advisors,

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: Dec 28, 2016 - 9:36am

Larry Kudlow, infamous voodoo economist and leading candidate to to head the Trump Administration's Council of Economic Advisors, says today in a National Review column:

“Why shouldn’t the president surround himself with successful people? Wealthy folks have no need to steal or engage in corruption.”

Wealthy folks have no need to steal or engage in corruption.

Wealthy folks have no need to steal...

...or engage in corruption.

Wealthy folks have no need to steal.

Wealthy folks have no need to engage in corruption.

Well, you know, the sons of bitches might not NEED to steal or wallow in corruption, but they sure do it ANYWAY.

Apparently Larry missed the part where we just spent 8 years recovering from a massive economic recession that crippled the entire world and that disaster was directly and irrefutably caused by greedy and corrupt rich people. Some of which are now being appointed to senior positions in the Trump administration.

This, this right here, is the logic of Trump voters: That a billionaire born into wealth, a New York real estate tycoon, a hotel and casino developer, a guy who builds exclusive golf course country clubs for his rich friends, a guy who's been married to a string of models, a Reality TV star and the one from hell you don't want to end up working for, a guy who flies around the world on his own jumbo jet and who literally — literally — craps in a gold plated toilet on top of a tower with his name splashed across the front in fifty foot high letters and who has never not one day of his life ever served this country, this draft dodging, tax avoiding conman who's cheated thousands of honest laborers out of a paycheck, yeah THAT guy and his cabinet of billionaires, conspiracy nuts, religious freaks, and cashiered generals is going to look out for THEIR best interests.

Those people actually seem to believe despite ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY that the wealthy are somehow above theft and corruption.

The wealthy are above theft and corruption.

To paraphrase H. L. Mencken: those people deserve everything coming to them and they deserve to get it good and hard

~Jim Wright

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