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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 1:41pm

Trump telepathy

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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 1:20pm

Kurt, note that the AP article I linked to is dated August 2022. Check out this page

https://www.archives.gov/presi...

The AP article has a link to that archives.gov page. That page has updated info that might explain this. That page, according to a note at the bottom off the page, was last updated on 9/9/21.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 1:15pm

 kurtster wrote:

your's is dated 2017.  My thing is dated September 2018 and is an official document from the Obama organization.
pound salt.

How about we go to 2022, and read a statement by NARA about "what's in the library" from today?

https://www.archives.gov/press...

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) administers the Barack Obama Presidential Library, located in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago. The library holds records from the Obama presidential administration and is leased, controlled, managed, and used exclusively by NARA. The Obama Foundation, an independent entity, has never had control over the records in Hoffman Estates. All records in that facility are stored and managed by NARA in accordance with archival storage standards, and all classified records were stored in an appropriately secured compartment within the facility. NARA moved these records at the end of the Obama administration to the Hoffman Estates facility under the assumption that former President Obama and his Foundation would be building and transferring to NARA a traditional, physical Presidential Library in the Chicago area. When former President Obama decided that he would not build a physical, NARA-operated Presidential Library, NARA transported the classified records back to secure locations in the Washington, DC, metropolitan area. The Obama Foundation provided NARA with funds to help convert the Hoffman Estates facility and to cover some of the expenses of moving the classified records, but the foundation has never had possession or control over the records.

Sorry, Kurt...you're gonna need to find something else to "whatabout" on this one.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 1:13pm

 kurtster wrote:
pound salt.

Got any more red herrings?

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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 12:37pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Fer krist sakes already ... check the freaking dates ...  and go to the pdf link and look at item #7 if the pic below is too small to read..

Try reading. "Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area (...) but none were classified."
 
your's is dated 2017.  My thing is dated September 2018 and is an official document from the Obama organization.
pound salt.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 12:18pm

 kurtster wrote:
Fer krist sakes already ... check the freaking dates ...  and go to the pdf link and look at item #7 if the pic below is too small to read..

Try reading. "Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area (...) but none were classified."
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 12:10pm

 R_P wrote:
 kcar wrote:
Hasn’t this topic already been discussed in the mainstream press?

https://apnews.com/article/fac...
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/0...

But Obama!
But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.
 
Fer krist sakes already ... check the freaking dates ...  and go to the pdf link and look at item #7 if the pic below is too small to read.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 12:00pm

 kcar wrote:
Hasn’t this topic already been discussed in the mainstream press?

https://apnews.com/article/fac...


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/0...

But Obama!
But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.

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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 11:17am

 kcar wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Hasn’t this topic already been discussed in the mainstream press?

https://apnews.com/article/fac...
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/0...
 
Check the dates and get back to me.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2022 - 11:09am

 kurtster wrote:
Hasn’t this topic already been discussed in the mainstream press?

https://apnews.com/article/fac...


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/0...

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Posted: Sep 22, 2022 - 11:19pm

Letter Surfaces of Obama Foundation Admitting in 2018 They Keep Classified Documents in Unsecured Storage at Furniture Warehouse

PDF of the letter ... https://www.obama.org/wp-content/uploads/BOF-NARA-LOI.pdf

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Someone, actually lots of someones now have lots splainin' to do.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2022 - 6:07am

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 kcar wrote:

Another thought for Kurt: the Steele Dossier and possible "collusion" between the Trump campaign and the Russian government are THE LEAST of Trump's troubles right now. 

He doesn't care; he has imbibed the kool aid. Donald Trump is Jesus Christ.
 
The very notion explains a lot more about your thoughts than you realize...
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 4:19pm

 kcar wrote:

Another thought for Kurt: the Steele Dossier and possible "collusion" between the Trump campaign and the Russian government are THE LEAST of Trump's troubles right now. 



He doesn't care; he has imbibed the kool aid. Donald Trump is Jesus Christ.
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 4:10pm

Another thought for Kurt: the Steele Dossier and possible "collusion" between the Trump campaign and the Russian government are THE LEAST of Trump's troubles right now. 
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 4:08pm

Kurt, you may want to review the Steele Dossier. You keep telling people here that they still believe that the Dossier is true as if it's been completely debunked. Actually, some of its more significant assertions—e.g. that there were "numerous" communications between the Trump campaign and people working for the Russian government—
seem to have been verified or strongly supported.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...


The Steele dossier, also known as the Trump–Russia dossier,<1><2><3> is a controversial political opposition research report written from June to December 2016, containing allegations of misconduct, conspiracy, and cooperation between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the government of Russia prior to and during the 2016 election campaign.<3> Five years later, it was described as "largely discredited",<4><5> "deeply flawed",<6> and "largely unverified".<7> Some aspects of the dossier have been corroborated,<8> namely that Vladimir Putin favored Trump over Hillary Clinton,<9> and that many Trump campaign officials and associates had numerous secretive contacts with Russian officials and spies.<10><11>

...

Many allegations in the dossier have been dismissed by authorities or remain unverified.<34><35><36> While the dossier played a central role in the seeking of FISA warrants on Carter Page,<37><38><39> it did not play any role in the intelligence community's assessment about Russian actions in the 2016 election,<40><41><42><43> and it was not the trigger for the opening of the Russia investigation into whether the Trump campaign was coordinating with the Russian government's interference in the 2016 presidential election.<37><44><45> The dossier is a factor in several conspiracy theories promoted by Trump<46> and his supporters in the media<47> and Congress.<37><44><45>



Since I know you love and trust the New York Times, I include a pointer to this refresher from the paper: 

Why the Discredited Dossier Does Not Undercut the Russia Investigation

Donald J. Trump and his backers say revelations about the Steele dossier show the Russia investigation was a “hoax.” That is not what the facts
indicate.

Published Dec. 1, 2021  Updated April 5, 2022






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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 3:19pm

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And what ?   So what if Trump appointed Wray ?  That just means that Wray was appointed by Trump, nothing else. 
Doesn't give Wray a pass on anything.  How does that change anything I have mentioned ?

And I'll just throw in that you have not disavowed the Steele Dossier.  You still believe it to be true.

That is pretty funny kurtster.   In light of all the efforts President Trump made to appoint the "right people".    Loyalty cedes to bedrock principles of civil society? 

Reminds me of Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and still ending up in a place where the vast majority of Americans of Jewish descent literally despise the man.  Given the history of anti-Jewish sentiment and discrimination in the early part of the 20th century, if I was Jewish I would despise Donald Trump too.

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 1:14pm

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The best part of this...is that Donnie is banned from Twitter, so he is "Truthing" all of this... with an abandon not seen since the election was stolen.

Those "truths" are then copy/pasted onto Twitter by folks who struggle to believe he could be so insanely disconnected from reality.  Another deep-state witch-hunt.  

It would be funny if he wasn't actually attempting to destroy the country as a way to avoid court/jail.  

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 12:19pm

Trump accused of vast fraud in suit by NY attorney general
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Posted: Sep 17, 2022 - 6:19pm

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and before this latest new revelation was the indictment itself that was about the source of VV's favorite evidence, the Golden Shower incident. He obsessed for at least a year about all the stains on the sheets of the bed, on America and Trump.

You are a funny misguided fellow and it would be refreshing if you told the truth. I didn’t obsess over anything but discuss it like everyone else does here in this forum. I don’t recall instigating a discussion on it but I did offer my opinion (just as I am doing here) and I certainly didn’t discuss it for a year. Was the story so far-fetched at the time concerning a person who brags about grabbing women’s pussies and paying hush money to porn stars? 
 
If there is anyone with an obsession about it it looks like it is clearly you as you are the one bringing it up. Seems clear you are the one who isn’t done with it.
  
You are correct on one point though… Trump is a stain on America.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2022 - 10:48pm

Kurt, if you think Danchenko is going to lead to further revelations or more indictments, you're sadly mistaken. Durham's big moment was his indictment of Michael Sussman and a jury dismissed that that case in a matter of hours.

It's over, honey. Maybe you can pretend that the FBI planted 11,000 pages of government documents at MAL or made a prank phone call to Brad Raffensperger. 

Danchenko was working for Christopher Steele. He provided Steele with gossip and scuttlebutt about Trump. He was not a stranger to Washington or the FBI: he worked at the Brookings Institution between 20005 and 2010; he apparently made his reputation as a Russian analyst by finding that Putin plagiarized parts of his dissertation. Danchenko was the subject of an FBI investigation that closed in 2011 but not charged with anything.



Furthermore,

Later that month (January 2017), the F.B.I. identified Mr. Danchenko as a source for Mr. Steele and he agreed — in exchange for immunity and a promise of
confidentiality — to detail his work. The bureau later told a judge its agents found him “truthful and cooperative,” although an F.B.I. analyst
told an inspector general that Mr. Danchenko might have been “minimizing” certain facts about his interactions with his sources.


He spoke to the NY Times in 2020 as part of the above-quoted Times article and denied he was a Russian spy. He was indicted in November 2021 on five counts of lying to the FBI about his sources of information given to Steele although those charges seem pretty thin.

During his interview with the NY Times, Danchenko "repeatedly stressed that he was only collecting “raw intelligence,” meaning tips, leads and claims that are notable but have not been analyzed and assessed for credibility, and he had nothing to do with how Mr. Steele characterized them or the fact that they became public."

Danchenko was hired by the FBI in March 2017, after Trump was elected and sworn in as President. Even the NY Post piece you cite notes this. Danchenko told the FBI in interviews during his time as the Bureau's paid informant that he was skeptical of the truthfulness of some of the pieces of gossip he gathered.

I can't recall whether VV believed the Steele Dossier rumors or not. I read about them as rumors and regarded them as such. The Steele Dossier was a side-show and not the primary cause of the FBI's investigation into possible cooperation between Trump's campaign and Russia.
 
Time to climb out of the pumpkin patch, Kurt. 

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