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Posted: May 15, 2022 - 9:01am

 kcar wrote:

I stand corrected. I was going off of my memory of Robert Caro's first book on LBJ, which described the region's thin layer of topsoil on top of hardpan. That made farming quite difficult.

I noodled around in response to your post and it seems the area has about the same rainfall as the US average. The Wikipedia entry on the Hill Country had this to say, though:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

"The terrain throughout the region is characterized by a thin layer of topsoil and many exposed rocks and boulders, making the region very dry and prone to flash flooding."



Well, it's the Hill Country - hilly terrain is typically not optimal for farming (at least not around here - which is about 70 miles due west of LBJ's birthplace). Caliche (the sedimentary soil that is present in much of Texas and is why cellars are rarely found in the state) makes any kind of digging, especially for planting, an enormous effort that may or may not reward the digger.  On the other hand, LBJ's backyard is the go-to place for Texas peaches.  And yes to the flash flooding (also a regular issue in much of Texas). Point being there's a hell of a lot more at play than simply weather.
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Posted: May 14, 2022 - 4:14pm

 kcar wrote:



You'd think he would've found a little more hair and a little less bronzer for the Second Coming...



right?
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Posted: May 14, 2022 - 3:14pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Donald Trump is Jesus Christ...



You'd think he would've found a little more hair and a little less bronzer for the Second Coming...

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Posted: May 14, 2022 - 3:09pm

 maryte wrote:

LBJ is from the Texas Hill Country - not an arid portion of Texas at all.

I stand corrected. I was going off of my memory of Robert Caro's first book on LBJ, which described the region's thin layer of topsoil on top of hardpan. That made farming quite difficult.

I noodled around in response to your post and it seems the area has about the same rainfall as the US average. The Wikipedia entry on the Hill Country had this to say, though:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

"The terrain throughout the region is characterized by a thin layer of topsoil and many exposed rocks and boulders, making the region very dry and prone to flash flooding."

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Posted: May 14, 2022 - 1:58pm

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Amazing the lengths and contortions you attempt in order to try and legitimize an ignorant statement made by an ignorant and unintelligent president. I should nickname you “pretzel”. There is no hurricane gun as there are no: twister, volcano, tsunami, earthquake guns. To seriously inquire about the possibility is laughable.

How so? Well before we even get to the extreme of talking about manufacturing something as extreme as a hurricane one would have to prove that someone had the means to make it rain on-demand. To date no nation has been able to do that. If they had the technology would have used it to counter droughts in African nations in order to ward off famines. We would have used it here to put down severe Californian forest fires and would be using to to replenish the dangerously low levels in lake Meade. So wouldn’t making rain be a first step in the quest to form a hurricane? God I feel like I’m trying to talk sense to a 7 year old. You supporting Trump in asking about China having a hurricane gun is probably about as ridiculous as him asking it.

You like to live in the world of fiction. Which I actually understand as it is the only way to continue to support Trump.




Donald Trump is Jesus Christ...
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Posted: May 14, 2022 - 1:55pm

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Here try this one on for size ... it is obviously breaking news  to you.



and another ... don't get hung up on the thing about the arch, pay attention to the rest of it.
.

No worries, weather control by the military and the ability to do so is just another conspiracy myth invented to sell tin foil.

Or, Global Warming really is man - made, but it's not because of the use of fossil fuels ...

Amazing the lengths and contortions you attempt in order to try and legitimize an ignorant statement made by an ignorant and unintelligent president. I should nickname you “pretzel”. There is no hurricane gun as there are no: twister, volcano, tsunami, earthquake guns. To seriously inquire about the possibility is laughable.

How so? Well before we even get to talking about triggering something as extreme as a hurricane, one would have to first prove that they had the means to make it rain on-demand. To date no nation has been able to do that. If they had, the technology it would have been used to counter droughts in African nations in order to ward off famines. We would have used it here to put down severe Californian forest fires and would be using to to replenish the dangerously low levels in lake Meade. So wouldn’t making rain be a first step in the quest to form a hurricane? God I feel like I’m trying to talk sense to a 7 year old. You supporting Trump in asking about China having a hurricane gun is probably about as ridiculous as him asking it.

You like to live in the world of fiction. Which I actually understand as it is the only way to continue to support Trump.




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Posted: May 14, 2022 - 9:41am

 kcar wrote:

Kurt, it's possible that LBJ's interest in controlling the weather arose from his youth in an arid portion of Texas.


LBJ is from the Texas Hill Country - not an arid portion of Texas at all.
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Posted: May 13, 2022 - 5:40pm

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You know, if I went to the White House and took out ONE envelope of classified material and brought it to my house, I'd be in the hoosegow right now.



Yeah but if you stole a laptop from Congress you would be a hero
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Posted: May 13, 2022 - 1:17pm

Kurt, it's possible that LBJ's interest in controlling the weather arose from his youth in an arid portion of Texas.

It's also possible that he was interested in preventing global warming. He was the first president to be briefed on the topic. One of the more feasible geo-engineering projects being researched is increasing marine cloud layers. Doing so would reflect more sunlight back into space and contribute to a decrease in global temperatures.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...


on a smaller scale, there's some evidence that cloud seeding can increase precipitation. So maybe LBJ wasn't so kooky after all.

https://www.science.org/conten...


Let's also consider that Trump had access to 45-50 more years of research and common knowledge than LBJ... And yet he came up with a fifth-grader's idea about nukes and hurricanes. That's on par with his suggestion to bomb Russia and claim the Chinese did it. Or shooting missiles at Mexican drug gangs and deny responsibility.

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Posted: May 13, 2022 - 11:30am

You know, if I went to the White House and took out ONE envelope of classified material and brought it to my house, I'd be in the hoosegow right now.
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Posted: May 13, 2022 - 11:22am

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Right. Well, clearly that means we should buy Greenland, nuke hurricanes, and shine UV lights inside our bodies to kill covid. But no bleach. That's fake news.


I wonder who got shouted down when they said: "How about if we take all that money, all those scientists, all that manpower, all that tech - and give our citizens such a wonderful life that if an enemy came calling, they'd fight tooth and nail to prevent their lovely setup from being disrupted?"

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Posted: May 13, 2022 - 6:33am


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Posted: May 12, 2022 - 10:59pm

 kurtster wrote:
Here try this one on for size ... it is obviously breaking news  to you.


Have you been saving this since 1962?

LBJ was indeed obsessed with controlling the weather. How'd that work out?

and another ... don't get hung up on the thing about the arch, pay attention to the rest of it.
.

No worries, weather control by the military and the ability to do so is just another conspiracy myth invented to sell tin foil.

Or, Global Warming really is man - made, but it's not because of the use of fossil fuels ...

Ummm...the History Channel? Really?

You mean with a scientific luminary as credible as William Shatner we shouldn't take the part about the St. Louis Arch being a weather control device seriously, but the rest is gospel?

Right. Well, clearly that means we should buy Greenland, nuke hurricanes, and shine UV lights inside our bodies to kill covid. But no bleach. That's fake news.
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Posted: May 12, 2022 - 8:34pm

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 kurtster wrote:

I'm glad to find out that the question was asked. Evidently the two of you have no clue.  Manipulating the weather has been a primary military goal at least since WW II.  Evidently this is breaking news to you two.  And there have been many, many efforts and developments since then accomplished by all sides. Go ahead and laugh.  You live in little boxes and are afraid to go think outside of them.  Just because you two and many more think that something like this is impossible doesn't mean that it is impossible. Me, I believe that if we can imagine it, sooner or later it will be possible.  I've lived long enough to have seen countless examples.

You are glad that the “Can China manufacture a hurricane” question was asked? This was a burning question on your mind that needed asking? 😹 You are the one without the clue. Trump isn’t asking the question out of insight but ignorance. Much like his asking whether a “nuke” could be used to stop a hurricane. 
 
Here try this one on for size ... it is obviously breaking news  to you.



and another ... don't get hung up on the thing about the arch, pay attention to the rest of it.
.

No worries, weather control by the military and the ability to do so is just another conspiracy myth invented to sell tin foil.

Or, Global Warming really is man - made, but it's not because of the use of fossil fuels ...
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Posted: May 12, 2022 - 7:26am

 Red_Dragon wrote:






actually an entertaining movie

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Posted: May 11, 2022 - 6:54pm

 islander wrote:



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Posted: May 11, 2022 - 5:05pm

 VV wrote:

You are glad that the “Can China manufacture a hurricane” question was asked? This was a burning question on your mind that needed asking? 😹

You are the one without the clue. Trump isn’t asking the question out of insight but ignorance. Much like his asking whether a “nuke” could be used to stop a hurricane. Or solve COVID by ingesting Clorox. Shoot protesters in the legs, drop bombs on Mexican cartels, windmills cause cancer, trying to buy Greenland or trade Puerto Rico for it, creating a new branch of military: Spaceforce. It is like a 4th or 5th grader’s approach to problem solving and would be amusing... if posed by a 4th or 5th grader... not a world leader.  
  
His presidency is punctuated by -and known for- his ignorance (ignorance of the Constitution, ignorance of American and world history, ignorance of global warming, ignorance of global politics, ignorance of science) some of it willful… most of it not. Nice job on trying to spin a truly head-scratching Trump statement into something more than what it was… ignorant. You are a loyal foot soldier to be sure.

But ask yourself… if Trump was truly smart, wouldn’t he just hire the best people to build him a time-machine so that he can go back in time to correct all the mistakes he made? Sh*t I just thought of something… what if China has a time machine? Then we’re totally screwed…

There, aren’t you totally impressed with me that I asked the time-machine question? I'm a f*ckin' genius. I beat Trump to it and it certainly beats his hurricane machine question hands-down!

Personally, I can't wait for the day that somebody blows up the moon. After over 60 years on this earth I'm just sick and tired of looking at it. 
 
Don't let Trump steal my idea.








It has been done 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3...
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Posted: May 11, 2022 - 4:35pm

 kurtster wrote:

I'm glad to find out that the question was asked.

Evidently the two of you have no clue.  Manipulating the weather has been a primary military goal at least since WW II.  Evidently this is breaking news to you two.  And there have been many, many efforts and developments since then accomplished by all sides.

Go ahead and laugh.  You live in little boxes and are afraid to go think outside of them.  Just because you two and many more think that something like this is impossible doesn't mean that it is impossible.

Me, I believe that if we can imagine it, sooner or later it will be possible.  I've lived long enough to have seen countless examples.

Edit :  There are two methods of problem solving I was told way back in Jr High or somewhere about then.  The first one is the one you are probably most familiar with.  State a need or problem and try and figure out how we get there from the drawing board.  The other and I was told that this is the German method ... start out saying that we are already there and then figure out why it won't work and solve it that way.  I will proffer that the German method has better results.


The problem is having a president who is so uneducated and the absurdity of generating a hurricane's energy with any physical device, in spite of any much more modest "military goal" 

Oh yeah, Deep state has all this stuff other people can only dream of... /snark
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