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ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Aug 24, 2015 - 10:25am

Is Trump's slogan really "Make America Great Again"? Because that translates to "America Sucks Right Now" and that's hard to argue with since that America made people like him skrillionaires but maybe not what he meant to say.
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Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 6:26pm


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Posted: Aug 10, 2015 - 1:37pm

 kurtster wrote:
This is old news to me.  Its good to see that you are trying to keep up though.

Clicky here.
 
Can't compete with a prophet... {#Wink}
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Posted: Aug 10, 2015 - 12:56pm

 RichardPrins wrote: 
This is old news to me.  Its good to see that you are trying to keep up though.

Clicky here. 
I'm laughing now.  Trump ain't going nowhere.  

Reflecting on the body of the above article, Trump holds all the cards.  Let's pretend that Trump has enough cash to buy a law firm and employ it full time filing law suits against malicious tweeters and bloggers.  Someone spouting unsubstantiated bs about him and all he has to do is make a call and say sue the bastid and yippy-skippy.  He can shut down almost all of it, unlike anyone else can.  We all know that you can sue anyone for anything, so nothing is stopping him.

I believe that it would stop the usual reckless behaviour of just plain making things up to put a candidate on the defensive and spend time defending themselves instead of speaking about the things they want to talk about.  The bloggers and what not will have to take time and spend money to defend themselves, instead of counting on the fact that no candidate to date has the resources required to take on these propagandists.  Its easy to sit and spew when you know there are no real consequences, but when you have to put your money where your mouth is, well I think that this is a game changer. 

I think that this would be pretty cool, not that it would ever happen, cuz Trump is only a clown posing as a candidate, he wouldn't be smart enough to do what I mentioned above.  And no I didn't read this anywhere, its just my imagination that arrived at this scenario.

{#Roflol} 
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Posted: Aug 10, 2015 - 10:13am

Swan Song for the Donald? GOP Party Bosses Plan to “Take Out” Trump
Cue the oppressed martyr card...

Donald Trump and Roger Ailes Make Up — For Now
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Posted: Aug 10, 2015 - 2:45am

Possible 3rd party Republican obstructionist who is also a misogynist?  Sounds to me like a Clinton insurance policy, she is leaving no stone unturned in her mission. Thy will be done.

Not that it even matters, just more entertainment.
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Posted: Aug 4, 2015 - 7:05pm

Donald Trump’s Website Hacked with Jon Stewart Tribute
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Posted: Jul 25, 2015 - 11:33am

Strangest Hot Take of the Day: Why Evangelicals Like Trump

(...) In the service of explaining what there is of an evangelical attraction to Trump (and, as I wrote earlier this week, it is there, although by no means a majority), Brody portrays Trump as a no-holds-barred honest broker and, therefore, victim of the media. That’s why, he says, evangelicals can relate.

“Donald Trump operates in a world of absolutes,” Brody writes. “A world of right and wrong; a world of winners (him) and losers (McCain, Perry, etc); a world of put up or shut up (literally).”

“And what does Trump get for speaking out so boldly without holding back?” Brody asks. “Public ridicule.” (...)


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Posted: Jul 24, 2015 - 6:07am

Its old (2011), but gives you some idea of his ways.10 things about Trump
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Posted: Jul 22, 2015 - 10:57am

 Beaker wrote: 
Yeah, pretty much right.

I just gotta take exception to the author's take that Trump and his supporters are anti immigrant.  No, there is a separate distinction about being against illegal immigration.  It does not mean that they are anti immigrant.  This is pure BS to keep this crap going.  Nearly all who are against illegal immigration have no problem with legal immigration, except when the work visas displace American workers.

Republicans need to think about who backs Trump at the moment.  It’s a big chunk of the GOP base, at least the anti-immigrant wing.  If Republicans lose these folks next year in the general election, they’re doomed.

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If anyone can break through this damaging, dishonest narrative about the truth of illegal immigration Trump will.  First step is making it clear that it is real and real people are dying as a direct result.  Liberals are in total denial that there is such a thing as illegal immigration.  The more they deny it, the more they will fire up deeper and lasting support for Trump

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Oh, and loved the Steyn piece  


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Posted: Jul 22, 2015 - 5:41am

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I don't understand how he can be so ahead in the polls. What do people see in him?

 
Let's start with the obvious.  He is his own man.  If he wins he will not be beholden to campaign donors like all the rest of the candidates, on all of the sides.  That is big all by itself.  His hands would be tied only by the system,  not by donors and lobbyists who force all the other candidates to compromise themselves before they get started.  He would not be a bait and switch POTUS.

Secondly, he is the only one speaking forcefully about illegal immigration.  He is the only one still willing to call illegal immigration what it is.  Illegal immigration is the second biggest single issue that will attract voters.  The biggest is abortion.  I would guess that roughly 75% of voters will not look at a candidate that does not support their own views on abortion / women's rights.  I would guess that illegal immigration has a group about the size of 20% of all voters, that believe that if the sovereignty and borders of our country are not secured, nothing else matters.  I would be one of those.  That is my single issue that will get my vote.  Laws begin and end at our borders.  Without any sovereign security, our laws are transient or meaningless.  This resonates loudly with a voter block whose size is seriously underestimated.

Thirdly, he has real world international business experience.  To develop real estate requires the most deftest of hands to deal with all the intricacies and nuances of local, state and national regulations and politics.  US law requires that citizens must adhere to US standards and business practices internationally.  This prevents among other things, bribery, even if it is the local accepted way of doing business.  With all of his dealings, he has never been brought up on any charges of violating US laws regarding his international business enterprises.

If elected, he will fire incompetent people (read bureaucrats) who stand in the way of getting things done properly and efficiently.  He can take on the system unlike any others.

I believe, unlike most all others, that Trump is serious about running for POTUS.  He has sacrificed his brand, this does not enhance it.  He has already lost many product placements as a result of his candidacy and positions.  He is going to sell just as many books as before if he wishes to write another.  

Trump will be on the stage for the first debate.  We'll have to wait and see how he does.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2015 - 3:57am

 oldviolin wrote:

Maybe so, but the vein of frustration with the general state of things he's tapping into is very real. Doesn't matter how shallow his credible and applicable qualifications for the office. The current office holder was hired the same way. The 4th estate has become too much of a player in this whole party. Additionally, who is it that keeps them in business? Couldn't be the electorate could it? People still have the power. If we could only move past the grievance; past the soothe me now with gratification cult of personality and entertainment ...Otherwise and so fourth...

 

I endorse this post.{#Clap}
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 10:17pm

 Beaker wrote:
Mark Steyn: The Superbowl of Superholes 

Read it all.  The acerbic Steyn nails it.  Lots of juicy tidbit quotables!    

 
He ain't wrong. 18? Candidates so far, the winnowing is going to be boring as hell, so the assholes will be the only ones making the evening news.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 4:21pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

"Ahead" is a little misleading. Trump has 24 points in the latest polls vs. 12 for second place Scott Walker. This isn't a majority, it's just the biggest in a crowded field.

I'd bet money that he never gets past 30%, and that his latest 15 minutes is about over.

It also wouldn't surprise me if most of his polling support is among political cartoonists and late-night tv show comics.

 
I'm inclined to agree - and hope we're right.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 4:20pm

 oldviolin wrote:

Maybe so, but the vein of frustration with the general state of things he's tapping into is very real. Doesn't matter how shallow his credible and applicable qualifications for the office. The current office holder was hired the same way. The 4th estate has become too much of a player in this whole party. Additionally, who is it that keeps them in business? Couldn't be the electorate could it? People still have the power. If we could only move past the grievance; past the soothe me now with gratification cult of personality and entertainment ...Otherwise and so fourth...

 
Very much like a certain European country in the early part of the last century, don't you think?
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 4:10pm

buddy wrote:
He's ahead in the polls for the same reason we seem to be compelled to have a Trump thread.  Classic watching a train wreck stuff.

"Ahead" is a little misleading. Trump has 24 points in the latest polls vs. 12 for second place Scott Walker. This isn't a majority, it's just the biggest in a crowded field.

I'd bet money that he never gets past 30%, and that his latest 15 minutes is about over.

It also wouldn't surprise me if most of his polling support is among political cartoonists and late-night tv show comics.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 4:07pm

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This thread is way more attention than he merits.

 
Maybe so, but the vein of frustration with the general state of things he's tapping into is very real. Doesn't matter how shallow his credible and applicable qualifications for the office. The current office holder was hired the same way. The 4th estate has become too much of a player in this whole party. Additionally, who is it that keeps them in business? Couldn't be the electorate could it? People still have the power. If we could only move past the grievance; past the soothe me now with gratification cult of personality and entertainment ...Otherwise and so fourth...
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 3:42pm

This thread is way more attention than he merits.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 3:14pm

 Prodigal_SOB wrote:

I think it depends on whether it's your own or other people's money that you're losing

 
This just goes back to the assumption that rich people are smart. The old "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?" joke really rings true with a lot of people. See also: Ross Perot.
Ross Perot: "I got 3 Billion dollars!*"
Don Trump: “I’m really rich!” 
 
 
*Paraphrase because I can't find the quote on Perot, but Trump did say that. 
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Posted: Jul 21, 2015 - 3:02pm

 meower wrote:


four of his businesses went bankrupt. That's success these days eh?

 
What % of the businesses he's owned is that?I'd say he's just a tad more successful than you or I.

 And this is how much attention I pay or care-in God's honest truth,I don't even know what party he belongs to.I assume it has to be the Republicans but none of it really matters.

Whoever the next President is going to be was determined about 5 years ago,and there isn't anything anyone can do about it except beat their fellow victims of a failed system up.

 And that helps.
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