As well as Mormanphobic.

That's Islamaphobic !  

As well as Mormanphobic.

Bigot.

So much for the tolerant left ...

Don't trust a man who never has a drink.

Sorry the base is not what you think it is.  You're right we don't want to boot them.  We just want the system fixed and enforced.  And we are tired of waiting.  Obama promised to get it done in his first year.  Looking back, it was the last thing he wanted to do.  He just delighted in planting all these Constitutional problems to go off like bombs after he was out of office.  He invested in causing future litigation as a means to slow down the processes, weaken Congress with the cause of social justice as the justification.  He did nothing at the border other than open it up and run guns to Mexico.  What a guy.

The only thing holding back our cooperation is build the wall.   and you'll get whiplash from watching how fast the discussion changes to getting things fixed.  Its been that way for decades.  But rather than engage us, its been demonizing by the deliberate conflation of opposition to illegal immigration with all immigration and xenophobia, etc.  

Or do you really want to fix the system ?  or let things go like they are and just sorta kinda do work arounds and just let it happen so you can feel good and let the best intentions be all that matters.  There's a whole bunch of people who think that is the case.

Yeah, right.  He appears to give a damn about what's important to me and a very large number of people.  Its just not your people.

We have had kick the can for the past 3 administrations.  The national policy on everything has been appeasement, both foreignly and domestically.  We've kicked the can on everything.  And taxed everything to death.  

One reason I voted for Trump was to have the best person available to be the one to pick up the cans.  No one has stepped up and clearly there are no traditional politicians able to do so or it would have been done already.  I like what Trump has done on the military defensive side of things so far.  

We can no longer appease NOKO.  They now have a nuke that can deliver one hell of an EMP and reach the US Mainland.  That is the worst possible case scenario.  An EMP weapon is the greatest national security threat we face.  It is not climate change as Obama, et al have tried to convince everyone.  Climate change has been the scare tactic used to keep everyone from paying attention to the important stuff.  I've been talking about it for at least 5 years since I became aware of it.  But I've been dismissed here as a fear monger or conspiracy theorist every time I mention it.  Back then the estimated cost of hardening our electricity grid was about $2 billion dollars.  Its now about $10 b.

All chubby cheeks has to do is get the thing to go off 200 miles above us and he can knock out half the country's electricity and kill electronic devices permanently that are within the pulse.  That would send the USA into the stoneage, killing 10's of millions in the resulting social chaos and disorder that would last for years.  He would get us to kill ourselves.  If its him or us, its him.  Sorry about their neighborhood, but that's how I feel about it.

All roads to NOKO go through China.  Either they take him out or we do.  I ain't holding my breath for China to do anything here.

Like Hillary would be a better option right now ?  Given the circumstances, I feel a whole lot better with Trump in charge than if she would be.  We would be right where we are right now regardless of who won.  Chubby Cheeks is pointing a gun at our heads and making us defend ourselves.  

Trump doesn't even benefit by satisfying his base, because it's largely opposed to deporting the Dreamers: 

 VV wrote:
I have a simpler explanation: the only one who hadn't figured out immigration was Trump, and there never was a problem to solve.

 steeler wrote:
The original executive order was for a 90 day moratorium while "we figure this thing out."

It was of the utmost importance. Top national security priority—we were all at risk of terrorist attack under the old regime.

He's had much more than 90 days since taking office. If it was such a high priority why hasn't it been addressed already?

 VV wrote:
I have a simpler explanation: the only one who hadn't figured out immigration was Trump, and there never was a problem to solve.

I think you just like to argue these ridiculous claims over and over again to fill an empty part of your day because honestly they make no rational sense.  I know you are going through a lot medically, and I can understand your need to do this but honestly it gets tiresome.  I hope you start to feel better soon and can leave this ridiculousness to some backwater hic that marches with a torch and screams about Jews, Muslims, Mexicans, women....etc and anyone that isn't a right wing republican, straight white American male.

For the same reason many of this other initiatives have stalled. He has the attention span of a goldfish and if he doesn't see immediate results / gratification, he simply moves on to the next shiny object. 

 steeler wrote:
The original executive order was for a 90 day moratorium while "we figure this thing out."

It was of the utmost importance. Top national security priority—we were all at risk of terrorist attack under the old regime.

He's had much more than 90 days since taking office. If it was such a high priority why hasn't it been addressed already?

Yes. The question becomes: Has there been any evidence that the lack of implementation of this travel ban has resulted in terrorist actions within the country or otherwise placed Americans in danger?  If not, then it would seem that the assessment that such a ban was critical and time was of the essence in implementing it was flawed.    

The Muslim ban is just one of several pieces of evidence demonstrating inability to govern available from Trump's short, chaotic, ineffectual tenure as POTUS.

The issue is effective leadership. The Muslim travel ban fiasco exposed for all the world to see that he has none. The supposed need for the ban was that bad hombres were streaming into the US, so executive action was required to get an immediate, temporary ban into effect. They failed to draft one capable of passing the sniff test, something other presidents have done when they have actual evidence to back up their claims of urgent need (like Obama's 2011 immigration restrictions based on a specific threat)  and have declined to ask the Supreme Court for a quick ruling (a fact that the Supreme Court noted back in June). It's lack of constitutionality is moot at this point. He claimed something needed to be done right away to keep out terrorists, and proceeded to fail to accomplish any prompt action.
 

The travel ban, which y'all base your early claims of Trump's lack of a grasp on what is Constitutional and what isn't, is at the SCOTUS waiting for a decision.  I'm pretty sure he will be upheld when its over.  Then what will you say ?

The travel ban, which y'all base your early claims of Trump's lack of a grasp on what is Constitutional and what isn't, is at the SCOTUS waiting for a decision.  I'm pretty sure he will be upheld when its over.  Then what will you say ?

The travel ban, which y'all base your early claims of Trump's lack of a grasp on what is Constitutional and what isn't, is at the SCOTUS waiting for a decision.  I'm pretty sure he will be upheld when its over.  Then what will you say ?

The travel ban, which y'all base your early claims of Trump's lack of a grasp on what is Constitutional and what isn't, is at the SCOTUS waiting for a decision.  I'm pretty sure he will be upheld when its over.  Then what will you say ?